Twin Towers WTC v Grenfell Tower

[El Kabong]

Lyle just read the replies.


Don't assume anything and you will be fine.


Contemplate the possibility that you may not know more about the UK than those of us living here and stop making stuff up.

OH you mean you're not going to call me a (and I quote) "fucking horrible heartless husk of a cunt" again?


I wouldn't assume anything, but when my legitimate questions are met with silence or in some cases a "Wow" (and a "Wow" alone) then I take the hint and stop asking the questions.


Or you COULD answer the questions I ask without personally attacking me and assuming things about my character or my values as a human being.......but I suppose that like any other question is too much to ask of you.





I'd been all ready to make nice and keep that going, but apparently that is a bridge too far.

That comment was addressed to Miles. I really don't understand your problem with people expressing themselves and the concept of free speech. Are you not passionate about anything but hating lefties? To be honest you are all a bit fucking weird. You, Miles, Brockton even Walrus sometimes. Why can you not all have your own opinions ? Why are you all so miserable and moany? I don't get it. Constant outrage to the point where despite none of you living in this country you are pissed about victims of a fire being rehomed in social housing. Housing built for people exactly like them. Not mansions stolen from the fucking Queen. Mind blowing.


You all seem to look for the negative in absolutely everything. No empathy, no fucking common sense, no idea.

How convenient for you.

Speak your mind that is free but don't assume there's no response or rebuttal.

Yes, yes we all understand nobody has a bleeding heart as big as yours.

[Beanz]

Lyle just read the replies.


Don't assume anything and you will be fine.


Contemplate the possibility that you may not know more about the UK than those of us living here and stop making stuff up.

OH you mean you're not going to call me a (and I quote) "fucking horrible heartless husk of a cunt" again?


I wouldn't assume anything, but when my legitimate questions are met with silence or in some cases a "Wow" (and a "Wow" alone) then I take the hint and stop asking the questions.


Or you COULD answer the questions I ask without personally attacking me and assuming things about my character or my values as a human being.......but I suppose that like any other question is too much to ask of you.





I'd been all ready to make nice and keep that going, but apparently that is a bridge too far.

That comment was addressed to Miles. I really don't understand your problem with people expressing themselves and the concept of free speech. Are you not passionate about anything but hating lefties? To be honest you are all a bit fucking weird. You, Miles, Brockton even Walrus sometimes. Why can you not all have your own opinions ? Why are you all so miserable and moany? I don't get it. Constant outrage to the point where despite none of you living in this country you are pissed about victims of a fire being rehomed in social housing. Housing built for people exactly like them. Not mansions stolen from the fucking Queen. Mind blowing.


You all seem to look for the negative in absolutely everything. No empathy, no fucking common sense, no idea.

How convenient for you.

Speak your mind that is free but don't assume there's no response or rebuttal.

Yes, yes we all understand nobody has a bleeding heart as big as yours.

Fuck off with that nonsense. This is not some kind of competition or PC contest it's pretty basic fundamental common sense and empathy. We are talking about re-homing victims of a tragedy in which possibly hundreds died. Some of whom have been sleeping in cars. Nobody has said you can't respond, but when you spout off bollocks about private property being seized by some communist conspiracy then you can expect people to correct you. Pick your battles man, you are all just coming across as heartless arrogant pricks right now.

[TitoFan]

..... and the battle rages on.

So anyway, there's this woman's viewpoint on the issue. Do you sympathize with this women's view? Or not?


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7806026.html

[TitoFan]

It's hard not to sympathize with her, whether you agree or not. This is a very dividing issue here. Weren't there other alternatives that could've been explored?

[Beanz]

..... and the battle rages on.

So anyway, there's this woman's viewpoint on the issue. Do you sympathize with this women's view? Or not?


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7806026.html

Really?


Fucking hell man. Did you even read the article


"The apartments were always going to be used as social housing, but the developer St Edward is now helping to get them ready for occupation faster.
The flats were originally due for occupation between October and December. Now they are expected to be ready at the end of July.

The Government is also helping to subsidise the more rapid turnaround, which a spokesperson said would cost £2m-£3m, with the money coming out of the Communities department budget.
Residents will be housed separately from the luxury apartments in two purpose-built “affordable housing” blocks.
They won’t have access to the development's gym or the pool, and the design of the flats will be more modest than those of their wealthy neighbours.
The death toll from the horrific Grenfell Tower fire currently stands at 79, but could rise as investigations continue."




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[Beanz]

I don't sympathize with her because

1. Hundreds of people are likely to be dead and she isn't

2. Nobody is moving into her block

3. The Social housing blocks next door were always going to be used for social housing and so nothing there has changed.

4. The residents at Grenfell were in social housing and they are about to be rehoused in SAFE social housing


FAKE NEWS from the right designed to divide and conquer has been swallowed whole by those eager for it to confirm their prejudice . THE HUGE MAJORTY of press and Media here is owned by Right wing foreign tax avoiding wankers. I know that it is not the same in America but here Murdoch and the Far Right own huge swathes of media and are in attack mode right now becasue this tragedy happened under Auterity measures. People are being moved out of flats all over the UK because of Austerity short cuts making places unsafe. Hospitals, Schools and even Hotels are even now being discovered to have taken short cuts.



So if she is pissed off, who gives a fuck . Why did she move into a block next to one that was always going to be social housing if like many in this thread she is allergic to working class people ?. Fucking toff.

[TitoFan]

..... and the battle rages on.

So anyway, there's this woman's viewpoint on the issue. Do you sympathize with this women's view? Or not?


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7806026.html

Really?


Fucking hell man. Did you even read the article

It was a QUESTION, Beanz.

Lower your goddamn weapon, FFS. No WONDER you have this natural tendency to piss everybody off.

[TitoFan]

Maybe I should've explained how it's normally done.

1. Person A posts an article and asks for opinions.

2. The rest of the people chime in with their opinions.



My bad. I thought this was common sense.......

[TitoFan]

Other than that, it IS hard to imagine why someone would buy into a project that is slated for social housing, and then complain when exactly that happens.
Must not have read the fine print.

[Gandalf]

Notice how nobody cares where the money comes from when it come to overseas property speculation. I include them in the criminality and being booted out thing. There should be checks on where the wealth comes from. If it is criminal money, then take the property and divide up the rooms in the home and you have more homes for local singles who work hard.

[Dark Lord Al]

I wouldn't want half of Ethiopia , Sudan and Syria to move into my apartment block if I lived in an apartment .
Corbyn and his merry men could make Jack the Ripper sound like an honest citizen.
I sympathise totally with anyone who bought those apartments for top price , only to have the value lowered.