People say they don't wanna see Floyd rematch Alvarez. Yet they are pushing for a Thurman fight. Why? Cuz he beat Julio Diaz and Soto Karass? Thurman would have less success than Alvarez did
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People say they don't wanna see Floyd rematch Alvarez. Yet they are pushing for a Thurman fight. Why? Cuz he beat Julio Diaz and Soto Karass? Thurman would have less success than Alvarez did
[QUOTE=ykdadamaja;1274931][QUOTE=chris6878;1274924][QUOTE=IamInuit;1274880]Floyd should do like those all time greats from 50 years ago and fight bums with 12-5-4 and 29-19-8 records.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
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Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeJesus lam i never took you for a nuthugger. Who deserves a shot then? Going from your description noone deserves a shot and whoever Floyd choses is the right choice. For the rest of us who enjoy the credibility of boxing we want to see the best fight the best and actually challenge themselves instead of watching one dimensional limited fights chase floyd around the ring like a kid trying to swat a fly. And did you not watch the Guerrero fight? Guerrero took as much shots as Berto did and was alot more damaged at the end of the fight. That fight clearly showed Guerrero was not at the level of FloydQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
I've seen people take things out of context before but this is as fucking ridiculous as the notion that he's ducking Thurman.
[QUOTE=chris6878;1274924][QUOTE=IamInuit;1274880][QUOTE=Rantcatrat;1274854]Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit;127484
I think Floyds wants the 50 but his body and mind are in disagreement. Lets remember that he is not obligated anymore then any other past great to fight life and death with every challenge or fight the biggest perceived threat of the day.
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Apply that pretzel logic to everyone else in history.
[QUOTE=ykdadamaja;1274931][QUOTE=chris6878;1274924][QUOTE=IamInuit;1274880]Like I said, Get a grip. Now I'm certain. You have been following this sport for about 4 years and believe that somehow nothing before matters in terms of legacy and prize fighting or how much they overlap. And in the minds of people like you, one is either a nuthugger or a hater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
In short you are a fucking pin head. I wont even bother to respond to tadpoles like you anymore who's sense of boxing history was last week and instead seek out real fucking dialogue and debate.
[QUOTE=IamInuit;1274952][QUOTE=ykdadamaja;1274931][QUOTE=chris6878;1274924]You sound as bitchy as Floyd. lolol...Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitLike I said, Get a grip. Now I'm certain. You have been following this sport for about 4 years and believe that somehow nothing before matters in terms of legacy and prize fighting or how much they overlap. And in the minds of people like you, one is either a nuthugger or a hater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
In short you are a fucking pin head. I wont even bother to respond to tadpoles like you anymore who's sense of boxing history was last week and instead seek out real fucking dialogue and debate.
[QUOTE=ykdadamaja;1275051][QUOTE=IamInuit;1274952][QUOTE=ykdadamaja;1274931]You are a one trick pony. Stop fronting like you have any sense of boxing history you juvenile cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878You sound as bitchy as Floyd. lolol...Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitLike I said, Get a grip. Now I'm certain. You have been following this sport for about 4 years and believe that somehow nothing before matters in terms of legacy and prize fighting or how much they overlap. And in the minds of people like you, one is either a nuthugger or a hater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
In short you are a fucking pin head. I wont even bother to respond to tadpoles like you anymore who's sense of boxing history was last week and instead seek out real fucking dialogue and debate.
[QUOTE=zhubin;1275139][QUOTE=ykdadamaja;1275051][QUOTE=IamInuit;1274952]EAD Flomo....Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaYou are a one trick pony. Stop fronting like you have any sense of boxing history you juvenile cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878You sound as bitchy as Floyd. lolol...Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitLike I said, Get a grip. Now I'm certain. You have been following this sport for about 4 years and believe that somehow nothing before matters in terms of legacy and prize fighting or how much they overlap. And in the minds of people like you, one is either a nuthugger or a hater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
In short you are a fucking pin head. I wont even bother to respond to tadpoles like you anymore who's sense of boxing history was last week and instead seek out real fucking dialogue and debate.
Is there talk of Floyd rematching Alvarez. I didn't hear that. In my mind I think it would be a tougher fight for Floyd now but in reality he would probably still have Alvarez swinging at airQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Never, Floyd hasn't done anything in the ring he doesn't want to for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitWilder is #1 for the WBCROCK and has never fought an opponent below 50. And when in the last 5 years has a mandatory ever effected Floyds decision making process?Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaHe is the #1 contender for the WBA belt. If anything else, all other fights that are even less worthy, don't make excuses to not fight at least your mandatory.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
He ducked Manny as a mandatory as well.
I agree with your point about Thurman not being ready and not beating anyone of note. I hate to be "that guy", but I don't know that u could have less success than Canelo. Even though CJ Ross had it close, it was a poor performance and I didn't see anything of note from Alvarez. You are right about Thurman likely being dominated in similar fashion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
On a side note, fights like the Alvarez, Guerrero...etc., fights are why I have an issue ranking Floyd over Duran. An in shape Duran would've destroyed Canelo. Chewed him up n spit him out. The reason I can see Floyd ranked higher is that guy comes to every fight in phenomenal shape and motivated, where Duran didn't and lost to some pretty sub par fighters.
Again why? Outside of pac I see 5 or 6 viable candidates to fight Floyd. Thurman is one of them. For some reason you and Floyd refuse to acknowledge his existenceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeJesus lam i never took you for a nuthugger. Who deserves a shot then? Going from your description noone deserves a shot and whoever Floyd choses is the right choice. For the rest of us who enjoy the credibility of boxing we want to see the best fight the best and actually challenge themselves instead of watching one dimensional limited fights chase floyd around the ring like a kid trying to swat a fly. And did you not watch the Guerrero fight? Guerrero took as much shots as Berto did and was alot more damaged at the end of the fight. That fight clearly showed Guerrero was not at the level of FloydQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
I've seen people take things out of context before but this is as fucking ridiculous as the notion that he's ducking Thurman.
that seems to be the criteria for fighting floydQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIf he beats Andre Berto, he should get the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
are them two fighting? berto and thurman?
I want one of Floyd's cherry picked opponents to kick his ass one day...Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeAgain why? Outside of pac I see 5 or 6 viable candidates to fight Floyd. Thurman is one of them. For some reason you and Floyd refuse to acknowledge his existenceQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeJesus lam i never took you for a nuthugger. Who deserves a shot then? Going from your description noone deserves a shot and whoever Floyd choses is the right choice. For the rest of us who enjoy the credibility of boxing we want to see the best fight the best and actually challenge themselves instead of watching one dimensional limited fights chase floyd around the ring like a kid trying to swat a fly. And did you not watch the Guerrero fight? Guerrero took as much shots as Berto did and was alot more damaged at the end of the fight. That fight clearly showed Guerrero was not at the level of FloydQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
I've seen people take things out of context before but this is as fucking ridiculous as the notion that he's ducking Thurman.
I personally will throw a parade when Mayweather retires...but Thurman better slow his role and bone up on his basics before he even thinks Mayweather. Seriously, why are we so enamored with rushing guys into a career blender like they come with talent expiration dates ??? If Thurman is on a level of Floyd...cough cough...he'll take a gradual step up and shine and make a statement, if not he'll go the way of someone else previously sharing the "Floyd has to fight HIM" mantra...Shawn Porter :-\
Thurman is one fight...1...from being continually caught with right hands and having his legs buckle in the 1st round with Soto Karass. His answer was to stumble into the ropes with his hands down. Soto Karass at the start of a fight has the speed of a horse drawn carriage, and one going downhill when he warms up. Thurman has potential, charisma and the gift for gab and a willingness to engage. He needs work and to get off this tag line of "one shot-one time" blah and power beats all. Floyds a giant size arsehole with a little man complex, but right now he would time and tame Thurman like he does one of his Snufalufagus looking body guards.