Jermain Taylor-Jeff Lacy a Done Deal For November 15 - Boxing News
I guess Winky was right when he said Lacy was announcing his retirement out of frustration.
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Jermain Taylor-Jeff Lacy a Done Deal For November 15 - Boxing News
I guess Winky was right when he said Lacy was announcing his retirement out of frustration.
That's good news. Hope Lacy can make a good fight out of it. I got Taylor winning this one though. Should be a good fight.
Taylor is gonna look really good here.
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Originally Posted by killersheep
Both fighters are good for the sport and both fighters are good guys to root for but im picking Jermain Taylor to really do a number on Jeff Lacy.
Taylor starts well
maybe drops him
then the fight becomes close.
one fighter who has nothing to lose and the other who is wondering where he stands, i feel its going to be last chance
Lacy has only ever lost to the great Calzaghe. Before that fight Lacy was a monster fighter. If you've seen him beat Sheika and Williams you'd see the talent is all there to beat Taylor.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssss
Easy win for Taylor.
I wonder who Lacy was frustrated at when he said it was a shady business? Something tells me he was talking about the judges :-\
I think Jermain Taylor is more talented if he had the stamina he would be very tough to beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterLacy has only ever lost to the great Calzaghe. Before that fight Lacy was a monster fighter. If you've seen him beat Sheika and Williams you'd see the talent is all there to beat Taylor.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssss
He found out GBP had already done the deal with Taylor's people for teh fight before his last fight and that he was only getting half a mill for the fight, so he "retired" to get a bigger offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Yeah maybe Taylor is more talented.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssssI think Jermain Taylor is more talented if he had the stamina he would be very tough to beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterLacy has only ever lost to the great Calzaghe. Before that fight Lacy was a monster fighter. If you've seen him beat Sheika and Williams you'd see the talent is all there to beat Taylor.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssss
But if you've seen Lacy fight Sheika and Williams you would see how good he is. He proved in those fights he's a class fighter.
Don't you think so?
Didn't see the Omar Sheika fight but i did see the Rubin Williams fight and he did show his class in that fight i still think he can do it for some strange reason but i just don't think he hasn't gotten over his embarrassing loss to Joe Calzaghe and i think alot of Jeff Lacy's bad form is based on him not believing in himself anymore and not having confidence and those injuries haven't helped either...........................Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterYeah maybe Taylor is more talented.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssssI think Jermain Taylor is more talented if he had the stamina he would be very tough to beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
But if you've seen Lacy fight Sheika and Williams you would see how good he is. He proved in those fights he's a class fighter.
Don't you think so?
But if Jeff Lacy can show some of his old form this could be a good fight because Jeff Lacy is a good pressure fighter at his best and he has a solid chin and if he can get Jermain Taylor into the later rounds where Jermain Taylor has faded in the past we could see an upset but the question is will Jeff Lacy show his old form ? i think he could do because this is the first elite fighter he has fought since the Joe Calzaghe fight and that may make him more up for this fight and the money will for certain motivate him but we will have to wait and see.
Thought you had the Calzaghe career set?Quote:
Originally Posted by ssssDidn't see the Omar Sheika fight but i did see the Rubin Williams fight and he did show his class in that fight i still think he can do it for some strange reason but i just don't think he hasn't gotten over his embarrassing loss to Joe Calzaghe and i think alot of Jeff Lacy's bad form is based on him not believing in himself anymore and not having confidence and those injuries haven't helped either...........................Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterYeah maybe Taylor is more talented.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssss
But if you've seen Lacy fight Sheika and Williams you would see how good he is. He proved in those fights he's a class fighter.
Don't you think so?
But if Jeff Lacy can show some of his old form this could be a good fight because Jeff Lacy is a good pressure fighter at his best and he has a solid chin and if he can get Jermain Taylor into the later rounds where Jermain Taylor has faded in the past we could see an upset but the question is will Jeff Lacy show his old form ? i think he could do because this is the first elite fighter he has fought since the Joe Calzaghe fight and that may make him more up for this fight and the money will for certain motivate him but we will have to wait and see.
Sorry.. I keep reading your posts and confusing you with someone else ;)
I don't know why Joe Calzaghe has been brought into this you asked me if i had seen Jeff Lacy against those fighters.......Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThought you had the Calzaghe career set?Quote:
Originally Posted by ssssDidn't see the Omar Sheika fight but i did see the Rubin Williams fight and he did show his class in that fight i still think he can do it for some strange reason but i just don't think he hasn't gotten over his embarrassing loss to Joe Calzaghe and i think alot of Jeff Lacy's bad form is based on him not believing in himself anymore and not having confidence and those injuries haven't helped either...........................Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
But if Jeff Lacy can show some of his old form this could be a good fight because Jeff Lacy is a good pressure fighter at his best and he has a solid chin and if he can get Jermain Taylor into the later rounds where Jermain Taylor has faded in the past we could see an upset but the question is will Jeff Lacy show his old form ? i think he could do because this is the first elite fighter he has fought since the Joe Calzaghe fight and that may make him more up for this fight and the money will for certain motivate him but we will have to wait and see.
Sorry.. I keep reading your posts and confusing you with someone else ;)
But i haven't got Joe Calzaghe's fights i think he is a great fighter but i could never get into his style.....
But he has been great for the sport and you have to admire that whether you like his style or not his record speaks for itself.
He was talking about golden boy promotions. (his new promotional team)Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
No I don't think so because I've seen Lacy fight Mendoza, Manfredo and Tsypko. Nothing impressive in those fights, I give him a pass against Tsypko cause of the injury, but has looked really bad lately (last few years). He mind is scrambled and instead of taking a knee to avoid Mendoza he tackled him. Lacy is gonna get slaughtered against Taylor.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterYeah maybe Taylor is more talented.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssssI think Jermain Taylor is more talented if he had the stamina he would be very tough to beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
But if you've seen Lacy fight Sheika and Williams you would see how good he is. He proved in those fights he's a class fighter.
Don't you think so?
I love both these fighters and don't want to see the two of them fight. At the same time Jeff is done. He looked terrible in his last fight. When he fight Taylor come November he will look even worst! He is going to get his ass kicked!!!
Taylor SHOULD have an easy nights work but he's in the habbit of fighting down to his opponents level.
I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhereWereWe
Why would we want to see their names mentioned with Pavlik ? Taylor fought him twice and lost x2, Lacy isnt ready for him yet..
It should be a decent fight to watch, but Taylor will comfortably outowrk him in the end, perhaps even a late stoppage.
Personally I would much prefered Froch given his chance to show if he can hang with the upper echilon of the sports fighters.
On the other this is a good name fight and it makes me interested just by looking at the names...Fan friendly i suppose you could say.
As far as competitiveness goes....I think Jermain will try to impress and go for the ko..If that wont work he will just stick and move for the UD..
Can't see any way Lacy gets anywhere near Jermaine.
It's easy to look good against a guy like Williams who has never beaten a quality fighter. Sorry to sound like Teddy Atlas, but everytime that guy stepped up, he lost. By the time Lacy fought Sheika, he had his ass handed to him by Joe C and Thomas Tate, and he lost two wars with Scotty Pemberton. Robin Reid was shot by the time they faced. Jeff Lacy has never dominated a quality fighter in his prime. He didn't even dominate Manfredo.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterLacy has only ever lost to the great Calzaghe. Before that fight Lacy was a monster fighter. If you've seen him beat Sheika and Williams you'd see the talent is all there to beat Taylor.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssss
Some this his was because of injury and some of it was being overmatched with Calzaghe when he has fought nothing but a bunch of club fighters and shot old men. At one point, he had plenty of potential, but I don't see him coming back from the injuries at age 30 to be a better fighter than he was before. Too bad. I like Lacy and think he's a good guy, but it is what it is.
If JT keeps his hands up and works behind his jab, he'll make easy work of Jeff with a UD.
Froch just needs patience, if he gets the title the big names will eventually follow. I'd rather see Taylor fight a better opponent, yet Lacy is decent considering this is Taylor's comeback.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tins06
I like Lacy but after seeing his last few fights I cant really seeing him trouble Taylor much. If he turns up with anything like a percentage of what he had pre-calzaghe though (when he did used to look awesome) he will.
Lacy is all too willing but if Mendoza is catching you with jabs,than Taylors jab and right will do a number on sliding Lacy.The level of overall experience alone just spells IMO, a bad ending For Lacy now.
well lacy had a lil trouble 2nd and another later round cant remember so i pick jermain taylor to look very impressive but which lacy will come to fight?
peace
This fight I will bet the ranch on, Judging by Lacy last few fights.............I'm taking Taylor by Mid Tko, Taylor will not let him off the hook like Mendoza did.
I predictedthis fight would happen. I remeber afew years ago I thought it would be a superfight between rival world champs. As ot is they are meeting but its a last chance saloon fight
Jermain clearly has more natural talent but he has off nights juts like Jeff . On the face of it im leaning towards a Taylor UD but I think it will be interesting
I hate to say it, but this fight has all the makings of a stinkfest... I will be a fan of Jeffs if he never wins another fight from here on in, but the fact is he isnt his best. The guy is a physical specimen but I always felt like he is two musclebound and it is hurting him down the stretch of fights now..
Jeff looked good early on against Mendoza, then seem to fade and eat more shots. This isint an excuse but a fact, Mendoza chopped Lacy in the back of the head about 20x so as I dont think it would of made lacy look like a world beater but I'm sure that wears you down not to mention Mendoza is a big time puncher..
Taylor on the other hand hasnt looked good in years, couldnt stop natural Welterweights in Ouma and Spinks not to mention Spinks by many peoples accounts won that fight or deserved a draw, then he got concussed by Pavlik, followed up with being outboxed by Pavlik..
People keep bringing up the Taylor Jab.. I got news for you he hasnt utilized that Jackhammer jab consistently since before the 1st Hopkins fight..
The truth is its a crossroads fight for both of these guys for 2 different reasons, Lacy has to answer questions about being shot and Taylor has to answer questions on all the hyped he recieved and was he deserving of it. One could make an arguement that Taylor being the younger athletic man got Hopkins at the right time and just outlasted him 2X and then drawing against a smaller Winky and not being able to put away to Welterweights and then being owned by Pavlik 2x.. I'm sure Taylor has 2nd guessed himself quite a few times as well lately.
I will go on record to say that I do favor Taylor but not by much... Both had solid chins and both had them clipped hard as of late so it wouldnt suprise me if one caught the other and blew him out of there...
Taylor did have a streak of bad performances, but I don't think Taylor had bad showings against Pavlik. The first time they fought Taylor dropped Pavlik, his jab was landing (although Kelly out-jabbed Jermaine), and landed flurries throughout the fight. Kelly just caught Jermaine and took him out of there.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
The second fight Jermaine fought beautifully! He just gassed out and Kelly came alive in the championship rounds. His stamina is what is causing him his problems. It's another question if moving up in weight will help that out.
I see Taylor having the ability to make Lacy look bad but I also think Lacy has the ability to take Taylor out. It will be a matter of Lacy getting to him. I predict Taylor by UD or late stoppage.