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Top 100 All-Time Greats: Post your list here...
does any one of you have their personal list of 100 greatest boxers in history. please post it here as a comparison or check on my list..
..i'll post my updated rankings..
This is my personal list of top 100 All Time Great Boxers.
This is my personal list of top 100 All Time Great Boxers.
personally i use this criteria:
80% accomplishment and historical significance - this
invloves fights with the fellow all-time greats, titles
held, punching power and boxing skills displayed, dominance and
longetivity.
20% timeliness and contribution to the growth of the sport- this also includes mainstream popularity.
Tyson is great but his legacy suffers because it can not
stand the test of time. Monzon's longetivity is matched
by hopkins thus monzon's rankings would go
down. henry armstrong legacy of jumping in weight in a year
is unmatched of more than 50 years...thats so long and he
deserves to be in the top 2 ATG.
This is my personal list of top 100 All Time Great Boxers.
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Sam Langford
5. Harry Greb
6. Joe Louis
7. Ezzard Charles
8. Willie Pep
9. Roberto Duran
10. Archie Moore
11. Benny Leonard
12. Ray Leonard
13. Pernell Whitaker
14. Bob Fitzsimmons
15. Joe Gans
16. Carlos Monzon
17. Barney Ross
18. Jack Johnson
19. Marvin Hagler
20. Jimmy Wilde
21. Mickey Walker
22. Sandy Saddler
23. Manny Pacquiao
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Alexis Arguello
26. Rocky Marciano
27. Gene Tunney
28. Roy Jones Jr
29. Lennox Lewis
30. Evander Holyfield
31. Bernard Hopkins
32. Barbados Joe Walcott
33. Eder Jofre
34. Tony Canzoneri
35. Emile Griffith
36. Jack Dempsey
37. Charley Burley
38. Kid Gavilan
39. Salvador Sanchez
40. Ike Williams
41. Larry Holmes
42. Floyd Mayweather Jr
43. Thomas Hearns
44. Jimmy McLarnin
45. Stanley Ketchel
46. Tommy Loughran
47. Michael Spinks
48. Ruben Olivares
49. Jose Napoles
50. Fighting Harada
51. Wilfredo Gomez
52. Carlos Ortiz
53. Dick Tiger
54. Panama Al Brown
55. Tiger Flowers
56. Kid Chocolate
57. Bob Foster
58. Billy Conn
59. George Foreman
60. Joe Frazier
61. Aaron Pryor
62. Jake LaMotta
63. Abe Attel
64. Carmen Basilio
65. Manuel Ortiz
66. Terry McGovern
67. Tommy Ryan
68. Ricardo Lopez
69. Jim Jeffries
70. Jack Britton
71. Ted Kid Lewis
72. Carlos Zarate
73. Wilfred Benitez
74. Oscar De La Hoya
75. Felix Trinidad
76. Shane Mosley
77. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
78. Pancho Villa
79. Azumah Nelson
80. Erik Morales
81. Juan Manuel Marquez
82. Mike Tyson
83. Pascual Perez
84. Marco Antonio Barrera
85. Joe Brown
86. Joe Calzaghe
87. Harry Wills
88. Miguel Canto
89. Marcel Cerdan
90. Flash Elorde
91. Holman Williams
92. John Dundee
93. Mike McCallum
94. Antonio Cervantes
95. Nicolino Locche
96. George Dixon
97. Sonny Liston
98. Packey McFarland
99. Khaosai Galaxy
100. Benny Lynch
101. Freddie Welsh
102. Jimmy Bivins
103. Harold Johnson
104. Bob Montgomery
105. Vicente Saldivar
106. Beau Jack
107. Maxie Rosenbloom
108. Gene Fullmer
109. Eusebio Pedroza
110. Lloyd Marshall
111. Lou Ambers
112. Battling Nelson
113. James Toney
114. Jim Driscoll
115. Jeff Fenech
116. Johnny Kilbane
117. Pete Herman
118. Kosta Tszyu
119. Freddie Miller
120. Nino Benvenuti
121. Georges Carpentier
122. Ken Buchanan
123. Duilio Loi
124. Winky Wright
125. Tommy Gibbons
126. Philidelphia Jack O'Brien
127. Jack Kid Berg
128. Non Pareil Jack Dempsey
129. Jack Blackburn
130. Johnny Tapia
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Originally Posted by
asero
does any one of you have their personal list of 100 greatest boxers in history. please post it here as a comparison or check on my list..
i'm presently working on it and i'll be finished by monday..i'll post my rankings..
I think its pretty much impossible to do an accurate top 100 list, especially considering your bound to forget alot of fighters. And alot of the old fighters don't have much footage or no footage at all.
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it's only as personal list and of course it would be that accurate but through the inputs of various posters we can come up more or less pretty good list..im using bert sugar and the ring ratings as a guide..
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Its impossible. I seriously can make a list of the worst. LOL
Too many great fighters to fit into that tiny box!
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I'd have a hard time thinking of 100 greats let alone putting them in order:p
Look forward to your list though asero that should be interesting.
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100 is too many. i can probably do a top 10.
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I'll have a go
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Roberto Duran
3. Matt Skelton
4. ....
5. ...
i'll finish it later.
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Well I'll try based only off what ive seen for myself and not what i've been told....
1- SRR
2- RJJ
3- PERNELL
4- SSM
5- PBF
6- ALI
7- LOUIS
8- Barerra
9- lennox
10- SRL
11- holyfield
12- TONEY
13- bhop
14- oscar
this is impossible...havent seen enough of the older guys their fights are hard to come by not to mention the only ones people put up are of them winning. So i used my list based the fighters who i've seen the most of..and even though ive seen fights on the other guys like duran,pep,armstrong, saddler, moore, chavez, ezzard, greb, fitz,
i haven't seen enough to personally rate them high. and i don't go off what the old historians say because they're biased towards the old era guys anyway.
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JonesJrMayweather
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i haven't seen enough to personally rate them high. and i don't go off what the old historians say because they're biased towards the old era guys anyway.
I totally agree, you took the words from my mouth actually.
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All list are subjective. For anyone that does not know the meaning of the word, here is the explanation Subjectivity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Every list is going to be an opinion that is subjective. If I were to pick a fight that was a legitimate draw and I'd follow one fighter more than the other, I most likely would pick the fighter I followed as the winner. Example: Marquez / Pacquiao I.
I would be interested in seeing a comprehensive list that was based on a point system like BoxRec Ratings Description - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia
There are things to consider that can only be subjective. They are not calculated into Boxrec's formula i.e. When fighters go past their prime and a lesser fighter wins. When a fighter fails to defend his title against other top rated fighters. When a fight is killed in the ring... (nah... forget that one) Fighters may have had injuries or had been weight drained. Anyway you get the point...
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100 is too many. try counting 100 pennies and you'll say "fak it" after counting penny #43. top 15 maybe.
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Ray Robinson one hundred times
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josef4334
100 is too many. try counting 100 pennies and you'll say "fak it" after counting penny #43. top 15 maybe.
You're lucky, you've obviously never had to cash a till up! :-X:-\;)
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fan johnny
:lol:
You serious? There is nothing comprehensive about their sys.
BoxRec has got THEE worst rating system ever created.
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Originally Posted by
AdamGB
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Originally Posted by
josef4334
100 is too many. try counting 100 pennies and you'll say "fak it" after counting penny #43. top 15 maybe.
You're lucky, you've obviously never had to cash a till up! :-X:-\;)
nah man.. i bring them coins to be counted at commerce bank.. its free you know.
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Well i making a list of fighter form 1978-2009 because after that i really have not seen or watch enough of them my list is based on what they did in that time frame please feel free to add any names you think are not there and should be let it be known i do not know the lower weight well.
1Sugar Ray Leonard
2Tommey Hearns
3Roberto Duran
4Pernell Whitcker
5Marvin Hagler
6Ricardo Lopez
7Julio Ceasar Chavez
8Azuma Nelson
9Salvador Sanchaz
10Shane Moseley
11.Roy Jones Jr
12.Floyde Mayweather
13.Oscar Dela Hoya
14.Lennox Lewis
15.Evander Holyfeild
16. Bernard Hopkins
17. Micheal Spinks
18.Winkey Wright
19. Welfred Benitez
alot of names i missed out on there and yea i know i still working on were i want to place them i keep working on its going to take me long time and it while look different by the time i am done but throw names out there and also tell me were you feel that fighter should be also it while help.
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This aint in order, but it's some great names that I could think of. I will have missed loads off.
Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Willie Pepp
Muhammad Ali
Roberto Duran
Jimmy Wilde
Benny Leonard
Pernell Whitaker
Sandy Saddler
Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones Jnr
Sammy Langford
Ricardo Lopez
Charlie Burley
Marvin Hagler
Julio Cesar Chavez
Carlos Monzon
Marco Antonio Barerra
Harry Greb
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Larry Holmes
Aaron Pryor
Erik Morales
Eder Jofre
Joe Louis
Ezzard Charles
Alexis Arguello
Floyd Mayweather Junior
Billy Conn
Bernard Hopkins
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It maybe easier if we all just done the top 10 fighters in each weghtclass, that way it would be easier to do a top 100 list.
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Fenster
I'll have a go
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Roberto Duran
3. Matt Skelton
4. ....
5. ...
i'll finish it later.
quality ha ha
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i recently did a top 10 heavys of all time & i forgot larry holmes off it so no chance of me doin a top 100:(
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CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by
fan johnny
:lol:
You serious? There is nothing comprehensive about their sys.
BoxRec has got THEE worst rating system ever created.
The ONLY reason to disrespect a system of facts is to distort TRUTH
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Good find mate - I was going to look for those earlier
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Phil
haha
The great man Britkid was different class.
People are struggling with one hundred names yet he rattled off 100 per decade ;D
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
Phil
haha
The great man Britkid was different class.
People are struggling with one hundred names yet he rattled off 100 per decade ;D
Yeah and not the worst list one could come up with either...Not the best but hell the fact he did it with what semed like ease is what cracked me up....
Agree BritKid was something else
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Phil
brilliant... ALL HAIL! BritKid :bowdown:
That man was insane. :cool:
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Phil
I like his 80's list better than his 90's altho both are good.
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I have always said the ATG system has been terrible because historians have to idolize the past it happens in every sport, it happens in every subject. The past hyperbolized to the point legend becomes "reality"
That being said I will still try make the best list I can with help from Bert Sugar and his views of some guys that came before my time and before they had extensive clips of fighters. I mean regardless of him being a crackpot, he definitely talked to guys who saw these people fight, and he definitely saw a lot of these guys most haven't seen fight.
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Think you should try to get like say 20 greats form each era then try to form it but some are tough because we have never seen them fight.
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
Phil
haha
The great man Britkid was different class.
People are struggling with one hundred names yet he rattled off 100 per decade ;D
What the hell thats insane and i thought my boxing knowledge was starting to get better, its shame i come here a bit too late and never got a chance to talk to Britkid properly. I would of learnt alot off him.
Anyway i think we should do top 10 for each weightclass i'll start us off on a few. By the way remember these lists aren't in order. And i won't mention the same fighter twice.
Heavyweight
Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Jack Dempsey
Larry Holmes
Lennox Lewis
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Jack Johnson
Gene Tunney
Joe Frazier
Cruiserweight
Carlos De Leon
Evander Holyfield
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Light Heavyweight
Bob Foster
Ezzard Charles
Charles Burley
Archie Moore
Joey Maxim
Dick Tiger
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Dariusz Michalczewski
Michael Spinks
Roy Jones Jr
Super Middleweight
Joe Calzaghe
Nigel Benn
Chris Eubank
Steve Collins
Middleweight
Marvin Hagler
Carlos Monzon
Harry Greb
Mickey Walker
Bernard Hopkins
Stanley Ketchel
Tony Zale
Jake Lamotta
James Toney ?
Jr Middleweight
Mike McCallum
Terry Norris
Winky Wright
Thomas Hearns
Julian Jackson
Fernando Vargas ?
Julio Cesar Vasquez
Wilfred Benitez
Harry Simon
Welterweight
Sugar Ray Leonard
Felix Trinidad
Sugar Ray Robinson
Emile Griffith
Jose Angel Napoles
Donald Curry
Pipino Cuevas
Kid Gavilan
Simon Brown
Lloyd Honeyghan
Jr Welterweight
Aaron Pryor
Antonio Cervantes
Dulloi Loi
Kostya Tszyu
Nicolino Locche
Ricky Hatton
Lightweight
Shane Mosley
Benny Leonard
Pernell Whitaker
Roberto Duran
Carlos Ortiz
Ken Buchanan
Esteban De Jesus
Jose Luis Castillo ?
Super Featherweight
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Azumah Nelson
Alexis Arguello
Flash Elrode
Kid Chocolate
Julio Cesar Chavez
Genaro Hernandez
Joel Casamayor
Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight
Willie Pep
Sandy Saddler
Salvador Sanchez
Naseem Hamed
Vincente Saldivar
Davey Moore
Juan Manuel Marquez
Eusebio Pedroza
Super Bantamweight
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera
Wilfredo Gomez
Israel Vasquez
Daniel Zaragoza
Wilfredo Vasquez ?
Bantamweight
Manuel Ortiz
Eder Jofre
Fighting Harada
Ruben Olivares
Chucho Castillo
Carlos Zarate
Rafael Marquez
Super Flyweight
Robert Quiroga
Johnny Tapia
Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight
Jimmy Wilde
Pancho Villa
Mark Johnson
Dave McAuley
Vic Darchinyan
Light Flyweight
Jorge Arce
Michael Carbajal
Humberto Gonzalez
Saman Sorjaturong
Minimumweight
Ricardo Lopez
Ivan Calderon
Rosendo Alvarez
Theres quick list of a decent amount of boxers to make a list with.
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Mr140
Think you should try to get like say 20 greats form each era then try to form it but some are tough because we have never seen them fight.
Good idea i never thought of that, by the way these lists won't be in order. And im not listing the same fighter twice.
2000's
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Manny Pacquiao
Joe Calzaghe
Winky Wright
Bernard Hopkins
Shane Mosley
Juan Manuel Marquez
Kostya Tszyu
Ricky Hatton
Naseem Hamed
Miguel Cotto
Marco Antonio Barrera
Erik Morales
Israel Vasquez
Jermain Taylor
Vernon Forrest
Antonio Tarver
Jose Luis Castillo
Joel Casamayor
Rafael Marquez
Couldn't really think of the last couple, fighters like ODLH, Roy Jones, are in my 1990's list and because i can't mention two fighters twice, it makes it even harder.
1990's
Oscar De La Hoya
Roy Jones Jr
Pernell Whitaker
Felix Trinidad
Evander Holyfield
Ricardo Lopez
Dariusz Michalczewski
Lennox Lewis
Mark Johnson
James Toney
Terry Norris
Michael Nunn
Johnny Tapia
Orlando Canizales
Chris Eubank
Nigel Benn
Steve Collins
Ike Quartey
Riddick Bowe
Julian Jackson ?
Struggled badly on the last 4.
1980's
Marvin Hagler
Thomas Hearns
Sugar Ray Leonard
Roberto Duran
Salvador Sanchez
Mike Tyson
Larry Holmes
Julio Cesar Chavez
Azumah Nelson
Donald Curry
Simon Brown
Khaosai Galaxy
Marlon Starling
Jeff Fenech
Wilfredo Gomez
Aaron Pryor
Eusebio Pedroza
Daniel Zaragoza
Michael Spinks
Wilfred Benitez ?
1970's
Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Bob Foster
Alexis Arguello
John Conteh
Danny Lopez
Carlos Zarate
Carlos Palomino
Bobby Chacon
Ken Norton
Miguel Canto
Ken Buchanan
Ruben Olivares
Antonio Cervantes
Esteban De Jesus
Nicolino Locche
Dick Tiger
I'll have to finish this list later.
1960's
Sonny Liston
Floyd Patterson
Eder Jofre
Fighting Harada
Vincente Saldivar
Sugar Ramos
Emile Griffith
Carlos Ortiz
Niccolino Locche
Nino Benvenuti
Hiroshi Kobayashi
Flash Elorde
What the hell thats insane and i thought my boxing knowledge was starting to get better, its shame i come here a bit too late and never got a chance to talk to Britkid properly. I would of learnt alot off him.
Anyway i think we should do top 10 for each weightclass i'll start us off on a few. By the way remember these lists aren't in order. And i won't mention the same fighter twice.
Heavyweight
Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Jack Dempsey
Larry Holmes
Lennox Lewis
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Jack Johnson
Gene Tunney
Joe Frazier
Cruiserweight
Carlos De Leon
Evander Holyfield
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Light Heavyweight
Bob Foster
Ezzard Charles
Charles Burley
Archie Moore
Joey Maxim
Dick Tiger
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Dariusz Michalczewski
Michael Spinks
Roy Jones Jr
Super Middleweight
Joe Calzaghe
Nigel Benn
Chris Eubank
Steve Collins
Middleweight
Marvin Hagler
Carlos Monzon
Harry Greb
Mickey Walker
Bernard Hopkins
Stanley Ketchel
Tony Zale
Jake Lamotta
James Toney ?
Jr Middleweight
Mike McCallum
Terry Norris
Winky Wright
Thomas Hearns
Julian Jackson
Fernando Vargas ?
Julio Cesar Vasquez
Wilfred Benitez
Harry Simon
Welterweight
Sugar Ray Leonard
Felix Trinidad
Sugar Ray Robinson
Emile Griffith
Jose Angel Napoles
Donald Curry
Pipino Cuevas
Kid Gavilan
Simon Brown
Lloyd Honeyghan
Jr Welterweight
Aaron Pryor
Antonio Cervantes
Dulloi Loi
Kostya Tszyu
Nicolino Locche
Ricky Hatton
Lightweight
Shane Mosley
Benny Leonard
Pernell Whitaker
Roberto Duran
Carlos Ortiz
Ken Buchanan
Esteban De Jesus
Jose Luis Castillo ?
Super Featherweight
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Azumah Nelson
Alexis Arguello
Flash Elrode
Kid Chocolate
Julio Cesar Chavez
Genaro Hernandez
Joel Casamayor
Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight
Willie Pep
Sandy Saddler
Salvador Sanchez
Naseem Hamed
Vincente Saldivar
Davey Moore
Juan Manuel Marquez
Eusebio Pedroza
Super Bantamweight
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera
Wilfredo Gomez
Israel Vasquez
Daniel Zaragoza
Wilfredo Vasquez ?
Bantamweight
Manuel Ortiz
Eder Jofre
Fighting Harada
Ruben Olivares
Chucho Castillo
Carlos Zarate
Rafael Marquez
Super Flyweight
Robert Quiroga
Johnny Tapia
Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight
Jimmy Wilde
Pancho Villa
Mark Johnson
Dave McAuley
Vic Darchinyan
Miguel Canto
Light Flyweight
Jorge Arce
Michael Carbajal
Humberto Gonzalez
Saman Sorjaturong
Minimumweight
Ricardo Lopez
Ivan Calderon
Rosendo Alvarez
Theres quick list of a decent amount of boxers to make a list with.
Ok thats enough im sure some people can fill in the blanks, i could think of more but it would take too long i'll finish these lists later.
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Good Job ICB, I'd say the 80s was clearly the best decade for talent according to these lists.
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I think the nineties list wins...
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Alright i try making a list overall but not sure how good it while be
Sugar Ray Robinson
Willie Pep
Henery Armstrong
Muhamad Ali
Roberto Duran
Sandy Saddler
Kid Gavlian
Sam Langford
Jack Johnson
Surgar Ray Leonard
Gene Tunney
Tommey Hearns
Perrnel Whitcker
Shane Mosely
Roy Jones Jr
Oscar Del Hoya
Floyde Mayweather
Jouli Ceaszar Chavez
Ricardo Lopez
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfeild
Joe Louis
Carlos Monzon
Bernard Hopkins
Micheal Spinks
Marvin Hagler
Welfred Benitez
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
James Toney
Winkey Wright
Salvador Sanchez
Manny Pacquio
Azumah Nelson
Antino Barrea
Eric Morales
Juan Manuel Marquez
Joe Calzaghe
Felix Trinidad
Mike McCallum
Rocky Marcino
Ezzard Charles
Billy Conn
Jack Dempsey
Hector Camacho
Terry Norris
Jualian Jackson
Gerald MeCellan
Thats all i got so far on the list i keep going later love to hear about what you have to say on the list i got so far if want to comment
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This is my personal list of top 100 All Time Great Boxers.
personally i use this criteria:
80% accomplishment and historical significance -
thisinvloves fights with the fellow all-time greats, titles
held, punching power and boxing skills displayed, dominance and
longetivity.
20% timeliness and contribution to the growth of the sport-
this also includes mainstream popularity.
Tyson is great but his legacy suffers because it can not
stand the test of time. Monzon's longetivity is matched
by hopkins thus monzon's rankings would go
down. henry armstrong legacy of jumping in weight in a year
is unmatched of more than 50 years...thats so long and he
deserves to be in the top 2 ATG.
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Sam Langford
6. Harry Greb
7. Ezzard Charles
8. Roberto Duran
9. Archie Moore
10. Willie Pep
11. Jack Johnson
12. Benny Leonard
13. Ray Leonard
14. Pernell Whitaker
15. Carlos Monzon
16. Barney Ross
17. Bob Fitzsimmons
18. Marvin Hagler
19. Joe Gans
20. Julio Cesar Chavez
21. Jimmy Wilde
22. Alexis Arguello
23. Sandy Saddler
24. Mickey Walker
25. Rocky Marciano
26. Roy Jones Jr
27. Lennox Lewis
28. Evander Holyfield
29. Gene Tunney
30. Bernard Hopkins
31. Jack Dempsey
32. Manny Pacquiao
33. Eder Jofre
34. Salvador Sanchez
35. Tony Canzoneri
36. Kid Gavilan
37. Ike Williams
38. Charley Burley
39. Emile Griffith
40. Floyd Mayweather Jr
41.Tommy Loughran
42. Jake LaMotta
43. Larry Holmes
44. Thomas Hearns
45. Jimmy McLarnin
46. Ruben Olivares
47. Barbados Joe Walcott
48. Dick Tiger
49. Michael Spinks
50. Jose Napoles
51. Fighting Harada
52. Panama Al Brown
53. Manuel Ortiz
54. Tiger Flowers
55. Kid Chocolate
56. Bob Foster
57. Billy Conn
58. Wilfredo Gomez
59. Carlos Ortiz
60. Terry McGovern
61. Joe Frazier
62. Stanley Ketchel
63. Tommy Ryan
64. Ted Kid Lewis
65. Jack Britton
66. Carmen Basilio
67. Wilfred Benitez
68. Oscar De La Hoya
69. Felix Trinidad
70. Joe Brown
71. Aaron Pryor
72. Ricardo Lopez
73. Abe Attel
74. Shane Mosley
75. Carlos Zarate
76. Harry Wills
77. George Foreman
78. Azumah Nelson
79. Pancho Villa
80. Erik Morales
81. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
82. Marco Antonio Barrera
83. Mike Tyson
84. Pascual Perez
85. Miguel Canto
86. Joe Calzaghe
87. Marcel Cerdan
88. Flash Elorde
89. Jim Jeffries
90. Holman Williams
91. John Dundee
92. Eusebio Pedroza
93. Antonio Cervantes
94. Nicolino Locche
95. Jimmy Bivins
96. Mike McCallum
97. Sonny Liston
98. Benny Lynch
99. Khaosai Galaxy
100. Bob Montgomery
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Originally Posted by
asero
This is my personal list of top 100 All Time Great Boxers.
personally i use this criteria:
80% accomplishment and historical significance -
thisinvloves fights with the fellow all-time greats, titles
held, punching power and boxing skills displayed, dominance and
longetivity.
20% timeliness and contribution to the growth of the sport-
this also includes mainstream popularity.
Tyson is great but his legacy suffers because it can not
stand the test of time. Monzon's longetivity is matched
by hopkins thus monzon's rankings would go
down. henry armstrong legacy of jumping in weight in a year
is unmatched of more than 50 years...thats so long and he
deserves to be in the top 2 ATG.
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Sam Langford
6. Harry Greb
7. Ezzard Charles
8. Roberto Duran
9. Archie Moore
10. Willie Pep
11. Benny Leonard
12. Ray Leonard
13. Pernell Whitaker
14. Carlos Monzon
15. Barney Ross
16. Bob Fitzsimmons
17. Marvin Hagler
18. Joe Gans
19. Julio Cesar Chavez
20. Jimmy Wilde
21. Alexis Arguello
22. Sandy Saddler
23. Mickey Walker
24. Jack Johnson
25. Rocky Marciano
26. Roy Jones Jr
27. Lennox Lewis
28. Evander Holyfield
29. Gene Tunney
30. Bernard Hopkins
31. Jack Dempsey
32. Manny Pacquiao
33. Eder Jofre
34. Salvador Sanchez
35. Tony Canzoneri
36. Kid Gavilan
37. Ike Williams
38. Charley Burley
39. Emile Griffith
40. Floyd Mayweather Jr
41.Tommy Loughran
42. Jake LaMotta
43. Larry Holmes
44. Thomas Hearns
45. Jimmy McLarnin
46. Ruben Olivares
47. Barbados Joe Walcott
48. Dick Tiger
49. Michael Spinks
50. Jose Napoles
51. Fighting Harada
52. Panama Al Brown
53. Manuel Ortiz
54. Tiger Flowers
55. Kid Chocolate
56. Bob Foster
57. Billy Conn
58. Wilfredo Gomez
59. Carlos Ortiz
60. Terry McGovern
61. Joe Frazier
62. Stanley Ketchel
63. Tommy Ryan
64. Ted Kid Lewis
65. Jack Britton
66. Carmen Basilio
67. Wilfred Benitez
68. Oscar De La Hoya
69. Felix Trinidad
70. Joe Brown
71. Aaron Pryor
72. Ricardo Lopez
73. Abe Attel
74. Shane Mosley
75. Carlos Zarate
76. Harry Wills
77. George Foreman
78. Azumah Nelson
79. Pancho Villa
80. Erik Morales
81. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
82. Marco Antonio Barrera
83. Mike Tyson
84. Pascual Perez
85. Miguel Canto
86. Joe Calzaghe
87. Marcel Cerdan
88. Flash Elorde
89. Jim Jeffries
90. Holman Williams
91. John Dundee
92. Antonio Cervantes
93. Nicolino Locche
94. Jimmy Bivins
95. Mike McCallum
96. Sonny Liston
97. Benny Lynch
98. Vicente Saldivar
99. Bob Montgomery
100. Lou Ambers
Good effort but i think a few of the newer fighters are getting a bit shafted. Ricardo Lopez should be higher and so should Floyd Mayweather, there just a few that stand out. I'll have a proper look later when i get sometime, but its good effort anyway its very hard to make a top 100 list let alone trying to put them in order.
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Re: Top 100 All-Time Greats: Post your list here...
This is my personal list of top 100 All Time Great Boxers.
personally i use this criteria:
80% accomplishment and historical significance - this
invloves fights with the fellow all-time greats, titles
held, punching power and boxing skills displayed, dominance and
longetivity.
20% timeliness and contribution to the growth of the sport
Tyson is great but his legacy suffers because it can not
stand the test of time. Monzon's longetivity is matched
by hopkins thus monzon's rankings would go
down. henry armstrong legacy of jumping in weight in a year
is unmatched of more than 50 years...thats so long and he
deserves to be in the top 2 ATG.
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Sam Langford
6. Harry Greb
7. Ezzard Charles
8. Willie Pep
9. Roberto Duran
10. Archie Moore
11. Jack Johnson
12. Benny Leonard
13. Ray Leonard
14. Pernell Whitaker
15. Carlos Monzon
16. Jimmy Wilde
17. Barney Ross
18. Bob Fitzsimmons
19. Marvin Hagler
20. Joe Gans
21. Sandy Saddler
22. Julio Cesar Chavez
23. Alexis Arguello
24. Mickey Walker
25. Rocky Marciano
26. Roy Jones Jr
27. Lennox Lewis
28. Evander Holyfield
29. Gene Tunney
30. Bernard Hopkins
31. Jack Dempsey
32. Manny Pacquiao
33. Eder Jofre
34. Salvador Sanchez
35. Tony Canzoneri
36. Kid Gavilan
37. Ike Williams
38. Charley Burley
39. Floyd Mayweather Jr
40. Emile Griffith
41. Larry Holmes
42. Thomas Hearns
43. Jimmy McLarnin
44. Ruben Olivares
45. Barbados Joe Walcott
46. Tommy Loughran
47. Michael Spinks
48. Jake LaMotta
49. Dick Tiger
50. Jose Napoles
51. Fighting Harada
52. Panama Al Brown
53. Manuel Ortiz
54. Tiger Flowers
55. Kid Chocolate
56. Bob Foster
57. Billy Conn
58. Wilfredo Gomez
59. Carlos Ortiz
60. Terry McGovern
61. Joe Frazier
62. Stanley Ketchel
63. Tommy Ryan
64. George Foreman
65. Jack Britton
66. Ted Kid Lewis
67. Carmen Basilio
68. Wilfred Benitez
69. Oscar De La Hoya
70. Felix Trinidad
71. Joe Brown
72. Aaron Pryor
73. Ricardo Lopez
74. Abe Attel
75. Shane Mosley
76. Carlos Zarate
77. Harry Wills
78. Azumah Nelson
79. Pancho Villa
80. Erik Morales
81. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
82. Marco Antonio Barrera
83. Mike Tyson
84. Pascual Perez
85. Miguel Canto
86. Joe Calzaghe
87. Marcel Cerdan
88. Flash Elorde
89. Jim Jeffries
90. Holman Williams
91. John Dundee
92. Eusebio Pedroza
93. Antonio Cervantes
94. Nicolino Locche
95. Jimmy Bivins
96. Mike McCallum
97. Sonny Liston
98. Khaosai Galaxy
99. Benny Lynch.
100. Bob Montgomery
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Re: Top 100 All-Time Greats: Post your list here...
Quote:
Originally Posted by
asero
does any one of you have their personal list of 100 greatest boxers in history. please post it here as a comparison or check on my list..
..i'll post my rankings..
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Sam Langford
6. Harry Greb
7. Ezzard Charles
8. Willie Pep
9. Roberto Duran
10. Archie Moore
11. Jack Johnson
12. Benny Leonard
13. Ray Leonard
14. Pernell Whitaker
15. Carlos Monzon
16. Jimmy Wilde
17. Barney Ross
18. Bob Fitzsimmons
19. Marvin Hagler
20. Joe Gans
21. Sandy Saddler
22. Julio Cesar Chavez
23. Alexis Arguello
24. Mickey Walker
25. Rocky Marciano
26. Roy Jones Jr
27. Lennox Lewis
28. Evander Holyfield
29. Gene Tunney
30. Bernard Hopkins
31. Jack Dempsey
32. Manny Pacquiao
33. Eder Jofre
34. Salvador Sanchez
35. Tony Canzoneri
36. Kid Gavilan
37. Ike Williams
38. Charley Burley
39. Floyd Mayweather Jr
40. Emile Griffith
41. Larry Holmes
42. Thomas Hearns
43. Jimmy McLarnin
44. Ruben Olivares
45. Barbados Joe Walcott
46. Tommy Loughran
47. Michael Spinks
48. Jake LaMotta
49. Dick Tiger
50. Jose Napoles
51. Fighting Harada
52. Panama Al Brown
53. Manuel Ortiz
54. Tiger Flowers
55. Kid Chocolate
56. Bob Foster
57. Billy Conn
58. Wilfredo Gomez
59. Carlos Ortiz
60. Terry McGovern
61. Joe Frazier
62. Stanley Ketchel
63. Tommy Ryan
64. George Foreman
65. Jack Britton
66. Ted Kid Lewis
67. Carmen Basilio
68. Wilfred Benitez
69. Oscar De La Hoya
70. Felix Trinidad
71. Joe Brown
72. Aaron Pryor
73. Ricardo Lopez
74. Abe Attel
75. Shane Mosley
76. Carlos Zarate
77. Harry Wills
78. Azumah Nelson
79. Pancho Villa
80. Erik Morales
81. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
82. Marco Antonio Barrera
83. Mike Tyson
84. Pascual Perez
85. Miguel Canto
86. Joe Calzaghe
87. Marcel Cerdan
88. Flash Elorde
89. Jim Jeffries
90. Holman Williams
91. John Dundee
92. Eusebio Pedroza
93. Antonio Cervantes
94. Nicolino Locche
95. Jimmy Bivins
96. Mike McCallum
97. Sonny Liston
98. Khaosai Galaxy
99. Benny Lynch.
100. Bob Montgomery
no offense but your list lost legitimacy by having Pacquiao so high at 32 and he is even past oscar and why is calzaghe so low, he should be higher then pacman?
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Re: Top 100 All-Time Greats: Post your list here...
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Moono
Quote:
Originally Posted by
asero
does any one of you have their personal list of 100 greatest boxers in history. please post it here as a comparison or check on my list..
..i'll post my rankings..
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Sam Langford
6. Harry Greb
7. Ezzard Charles
8. Willie Pep
9. Roberto Duran
10. Archie Moore
11. Jack Johnson
12. Benny Leonard
13. Ray Leonard
14. Pernell Whitaker
15. Carlos Monzon
16. Jimmy Wilde
17. Barney Ross
18. Bob Fitzsimmons
19. Marvin Hagler
20. Joe Gans
21. Sandy Saddler
22. Julio Cesar Chavez
23. Alexis Arguello
24. Mickey Walker
25. Rocky Marciano
26. Roy Jones Jr
27. Lennox Lewis
28. Evander Holyfield
29. Gene Tunney
30. Bernard Hopkins
31. Jack Dempsey
32. Manny Pacquiao
33. Eder Jofre
34. Salvador Sanchez
35. Tony Canzoneri
36. Kid Gavilan
37. Ike Williams
38. Charley Burley
39. Floyd Mayweather Jr
40. Emile Griffith
41. Larry Holmes
42. Thomas Hearns
43. Jimmy McLarnin
44. Ruben Olivares
45. Barbados Joe Walcott
46. Tommy Loughran
47. Michael Spinks
48. Jake LaMotta
49. Dick Tiger
50. Jose Napoles
51. Fighting Harada
52. Panama Al Brown
53. Manuel Ortiz
54. Tiger Flowers
55. Kid Chocolate
56. Bob Foster
57. Billy Conn
58. Wilfredo Gomez
59. Carlos Ortiz
60. Terry McGovern
61. Joe Frazier
62. Stanley Ketchel
63. Tommy Ryan
64. George Foreman
65. Jack Britton
66. Ted Kid Lewis
67. Carmen Basilio
68. Wilfred Benitez
69. Oscar De La Hoya
70. Felix Trinidad
71. Joe Brown
72. Aaron Pryor
73. Ricardo Lopez
74. Abe Attel
75. Shane Mosley
76. Carlos Zarate
77. Harry Wills
78. Azumah Nelson
79. Pancho Villa
80. Erik Morales
81. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
82. Marco Antonio Barrera
83. Mike Tyson
84. Pascual Perez
85. Miguel Canto
86. Joe Calzaghe
87. Marcel Cerdan
88. Flash Elorde
89. Jim Jeffries
90. Holman Williams
91. John Dundee
92. Eusebio Pedroza
93. Antonio Cervantes
94. Nicolino Locche
95. Jimmy Bivins
96. Mike McCallum
97. Sonny Liston
98. Khaosai Galaxy
99. Benny Lynch.
100. Bob Montgomery
no offense but your list lost legitimacy by having Pacquiao so high at 32 and he is even past oscar and why is calzaghe so low, he should be higher then pacman?
Can someone just ban him?
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Re: Top 100 All-Time Greats: Post your list here...
there is no drama in calzaghe's fights...he could not KO jones and bhop...
if he would KO dawson, then i might move him ten places above. Joe Cal's 168 reign is just like chris john. but JOe Cal entered by rankings bec he is a p4p fighter and defeated legends in their home country.
pac is 32 right now, a loss to hatton would put him around 45th place. a KO by hatton would bump him out of top 50. a KO victory over hatton would put him #17.
if pac beats PBF, he would be more or less top 10, and PBF would fall to the 60-70 place