100 is too many. try counting 100 pennies and you'll say "fak it" after counting penny #43. top 15 maybe.
100 is too many. try counting 100 pennies and you'll say "fak it" after counting penny #43. top 15 maybe.
"speed is the essence of war"
sun tzu-art of war
Ray Robinson one hundred times
Well i making a list of fighter form 1978-2009 because after that i really have not seen or watch enough of them my list is based on what they did in that time frame please feel free to add any names you think are not there and should be let it be known i do not know the lower weight well.
1Sugar Ray Leonard
2Tommey Hearns
3Roberto Duran
4Pernell Whitcker
5Marvin Hagler
6Ricardo Lopez
7Julio Ceasar Chavez
8Azuma Nelson
9Salvador Sanchaz
10Shane Moseley
11.Roy Jones Jr
12.Floyde Mayweather
13.Oscar Dela Hoya
14.Lennox Lewis
15.Evander Holyfeild
16. Bernard Hopkins
17. Micheal Spinks
18.Winkey Wright
19. Welfred Benitez
alot of names i missed out on there and yea i know i still working on were i want to place them i keep working on its going to take me long time and it while look different by the time i am done but throw names out there and also tell me were you feel that fighter should be also it while help.
This aint in order, but it's some great names that I could think of. I will have missed loads off.
Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Willie Pepp
Muhammad Ali
Roberto Duran
Jimmy Wilde
Benny Leonard
Pernell Whitaker
Sandy Saddler
Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones Jnr
Sammy Langford
Ricardo Lopez
Charlie Burley
Marvin Hagler
Julio Cesar Chavez
Carlos Monzon
Marco Antonio Barerra
Harry Greb
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Larry Holmes
Aaron Pryor
Erik Morales
Eder Jofre
Joe Louis
Ezzard Charles
Alexis Arguello
Floyd Mayweather Junior
Billy Conn
Bernard Hopkins
It maybe easier if we all just done the top 10 fighters in each weghtclass, that way it would be easier to do a top 100 list.
I have always said the ATG system has been terrible because historians have to idolize the past it happens in every sport, it happens in every subject. The past hyperbolized to the point legend becomes "reality"
That being said I will still try make the best list I can with help from Bert Sugar and his views of some guys that came before my time and before they had extensive clips of fighters. I mean regardless of him being a crackpot, he definitely talked to guys who saw these people fight, and he definitely saw a lot of these guys most haven't seen fight.
Think you should try to get like say 20 greats form each era then try to form it but some are tough because we have never seen them fight.
Good idea i never thought of that, by the way these lists won't be in order. And im not listing the same fighter twice.
2000's
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Manny Pacquiao
Joe Calzaghe
Winky Wright
Bernard Hopkins
Shane Mosley
Juan Manuel Marquez
Kostya Tszyu
Ricky Hatton
Naseem Hamed
Miguel Cotto
Marco Antonio Barrera
Erik Morales
Israel Vasquez
Jermain Taylor
Vernon Forrest
Antonio Tarver
Jose Luis Castillo
Joel Casamayor
Rafael Marquez
Couldn't really think of the last couple, fighters like ODLH, Roy Jones, are in my 1990's list and because i can't mention two fighters twice, it makes it even harder.
1990's
Oscar De La Hoya
Roy Jones Jr
Pernell Whitaker
Felix Trinidad
Evander Holyfield
Ricardo Lopez
Dariusz Michalczewski
Lennox Lewis
Mark Johnson
James Toney
Terry Norris
Michael Nunn
Johnny Tapia
Orlando Canizales
Chris Eubank
Nigel Benn
Steve Collins
Ike Quartey
Riddick Bowe
Julian Jackson ?
Struggled badly on the last 4.
1980's
Marvin Hagler
Thomas Hearns
Sugar Ray Leonard
Roberto Duran
Salvador Sanchez
Mike Tyson
Larry Holmes
Julio Cesar Chavez
Azumah Nelson
Donald Curry
Simon Brown
Khaosai Galaxy
Marlon Starling
Jeff Fenech
Wilfredo Gomez
Aaron Pryor
Eusebio Pedroza
Daniel Zaragoza
Michael Spinks
Wilfred Benitez ?
1970's
Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Bob Foster
Alexis Arguello
John Conteh
Danny Lopez
Carlos Zarate
Carlos Palomino
Bobby Chacon
Ken Norton
Miguel Canto
Ken Buchanan
Ruben Olivares
Antonio Cervantes
Esteban De Jesus
Nicolino Locche
Dick Tiger
I'll have to finish this list later.
1960's
Sonny Liston
Floyd Patterson
Eder Jofre
Fighting Harada
Vincente Saldivar
Sugar Ramos
Emile Griffith
Carlos Ortiz
Niccolino Locche
Nino Benvenuti
Hiroshi Kobayashi
Flash Elorde
What the hell thats insane and i thought my boxing knowledge was starting to get better, its shame i come here a bit too late and never got a chance to talk to Britkid properly. I would of learnt alot off him.
Anyway i think we should do top 10 for each weightclass i'll start us off on a few. By the way remember these lists aren't in order. And i won't mention the same fighter twice.
Heavyweight
Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Jack Dempsey
Larry Holmes
Lennox Lewis
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Jack Johnson
Gene Tunney
Joe Frazier
Cruiserweight
Carlos De Leon
Evander Holyfield
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Light Heavyweight
Bob Foster
Ezzard Charles
Charles Burley
Archie Moore
Joey Maxim
Dick Tiger
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Dariusz Michalczewski
Michael Spinks
Roy Jones Jr
Super Middleweight
Joe Calzaghe
Nigel Benn
Chris Eubank
Steve Collins
Middleweight
Marvin Hagler
Carlos Monzon
Harry Greb
Mickey Walker
Bernard Hopkins
Stanley Ketchel
Tony Zale
Jake Lamotta
James Toney ?
Jr Middleweight
Mike McCallum
Terry Norris
Winky Wright
Thomas Hearns
Julian Jackson
Fernando Vargas ?
Julio Cesar Vasquez
Wilfred Benitez
Harry Simon
Welterweight
Sugar Ray Leonard
Felix Trinidad
Sugar Ray Robinson
Emile Griffith
Jose Angel Napoles
Donald Curry
Pipino Cuevas
Kid Gavilan
Simon Brown
Lloyd Honeyghan
Jr Welterweight
Aaron Pryor
Antonio Cervantes
Dulloi Loi
Kostya Tszyu
Nicolino Locche
Ricky Hatton
Lightweight
Shane Mosley
Benny Leonard
Pernell Whitaker
Roberto Duran
Carlos Ortiz
Ken Buchanan
Esteban De Jesus
Jose Luis Castillo ?
Super Featherweight
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Azumah Nelson
Alexis Arguello
Flash Elrode
Kid Chocolate
Julio Cesar Chavez
Genaro Hernandez
Joel Casamayor
Manny Pacquiao
Featherweight
Willie Pep
Sandy Saddler
Salvador Sanchez
Naseem Hamed
Vincente Saldivar
Davey Moore
Juan Manuel Marquez
Eusebio Pedroza
Super Bantamweight
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera
Wilfredo Gomez
Israel Vasquez
Daniel Zaragoza
Wilfredo Vasquez ?
Bantamweight
Manuel Ortiz
Eder Jofre
Fighting Harada
Ruben Olivares
Chucho Castillo
Carlos Zarate
Rafael Marquez
Super Flyweight
Robert Quiroga
Johnny Tapia
Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight
Jimmy Wilde
Pancho Villa
Mark Johnson
Dave McAuley
Vic Darchinyan
Miguel Canto
Light Flyweight
Jorge Arce
Michael Carbajal
Humberto Gonzalez
Saman Sorjaturong
Minimumweight
Ricardo Lopez
Ivan Calderon
Rosendo Alvarez
Theres quick list of a decent amount of boxers to make a list with.
Ok thats enough im sure some people can fill in the blanks, i could think of more but it would take too long i'll finish these lists later.
Last edited by ICB; 01-30-2009 at 11:10 AM.
Good Job ICB, I'd say the 80s was clearly the best decade for talent according to these lists.
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