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Does boxing need hatton back?
Cant help but think since may the sport has lost its biggest personality and all the fan fare and excitement that comes with a ricky hatton showdown.
This sport needs its personalitys to survive and despite not managing to win either of his 2 major showdowns he brought a hell of a lot of anticipation and charisma.
Remembering standing in the middle of a packed out vegas strip belting out a hatton chant and wondering if there truly is a single person in not just the sporting world but across the globe who can truly bring this kind of excitement and passion with them?
Not for all your mayweathers, mosleys, calzaghes and klitschkos can you get or create such anticipation and intrigue as a ricky hatton
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
Yes. He's still a draw and people still have love for him.
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
well theres no doubt that him and his fans bring the biggest buzz!
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
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hattonthehammer
Cant help but think since may the sport has lost its biggest personality and all the fan fare and excitement that comes with a ricky hatton showdown.
This sport needs its personalitys to survive and despite not managing to win either of his 2 major showdowns he brought a hell of a lot of anticipation and charisma.
Remembering standing in the middle of a packed out vegas strip belting out a hatton chant and wondering if there truly is a single person in not just the sporting world but across the globe who can truly bring this kind of excitement and passion with them?
Not for all your mayweathers, mosleys, calzaghes and klitschkos can you get or create such anticipation and intrigue as a ricky hatton
There is no need for him to come back really, his latest loss makes it very difficult to comeback and be a major player again, hes to old and been in to many wars to make a serious comeback to the top and add to that he looks pretty shot to me.
Stay retired.
You not updated your sig yet Hammer ;D
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
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skel1983
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
Cant help but think since may the sport has lost its biggest personality and all the fan fare and excitement that comes with a ricky hatton showdown.
This sport needs its personalitys to survive and despite not managing to win either of his 2 major showdowns he brought a hell of a lot of anticipation and charisma.
Remembering standing in the middle of a packed out vegas strip belting out a hatton chant and wondering if there truly is a single person in not just the sporting world but across the globe who can truly bring this kind of excitement and passion with them?
Not for all your mayweathers, mosleys, calzaghes and klitschkos can you get or create such anticipation and intrigue as a ricky hatton
There is no need for him to come back really, his latest loss makes it very difficult to comeback and be a major player again, hes to old and been in to many wars to make a serious comeback to the top and add to that he looks pretty shot to me.
Stay retired.
You not updated your sig yet Hammer ;D
30 years old is now considered too old??
Your supposed to be hitting your prime at that age not calling it a day. So he got knocked out by manny pacquiao and floyd mayweather. 2 of the very best around and you could quite easily argue that ricky has already fought his 2 hardest fights and should still be able to retire as world champion.
Fact is ricky hatton pulls in fans all over the world. It would be a crying shame if someone so young decided to pack it in just because of 2 defeats!!
PS:He won the WBA at welter and not light welter!
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
Cant help but think since may the sport has lost its biggest personality and all the fan fare and excitement that comes with a ricky hatton showdown.
This sport needs its personalitys to survive and despite not managing to win either of his 2 major showdowns he brought a hell of a lot of anticipation and charisma.
Remembering standing in the middle of a packed out vegas strip belting out a hatton chant and wondering if there truly is a single person in not just the sporting world but across the globe who can truly bring this kind of excitement and passion with them?
Not for all your mayweathers, mosleys, calzaghes and klitschkos can you get or create such anticipation and intrigue as a ricky hatton
There is no need for him to come back really, his latest loss makes it very difficult to comeback and be a major player again, hes to old and been in to many wars to make a serious comeback to the top and add to that he looks pretty shot to me.
Stay retired.
You not updated your sig yet Hammer ;D
30 years old is now considered too old??
Your supposed to be hitting your prime at that age not calling it a day. So he got knocked out by manny pacquiao and floyd mayweather. 2 of the very best around and you could quite easily argue that ricky has already fought his 2 hardest fights and should still be able to retire as world champion.
Fact is ricky hatton pulls in fans all over the world. It would be a crying shame if someone so young decided to pack it in just because of 2 defeats!!
PS:He won the WBA at welter and not light welter!
2005-11-2663.3Carlos Maussa63.520-2-0Hallam FM Arena, Sheffield, Yorkshire, United KingdomWKO912x3~ time: 1:10 | referee: Mickey Vann | judge: John Coyle | judge: Ruben Garcia, Dr. | judge: Guy Jutras ~
~ IBF light welterweight title ~
~ WBA Super World light welterweight title ~
Did you not get my message quite suprised you didnt actully know he beat Carlos Maussa in sheffield in December 2005 for the WBA strap at 140, seen as you are one of his biggest fans?? Did you not realise that mate??
Yes he is 30, well 31 in a few weeks but what is Hattons objective the guy has been involved in some of the biggest ppv's ever in boxing, now me personally if I had got to them heights I wouldnt be happy fighting bums in my own backyard, i just dont see the point??
So my point is if Hatton wants to get to them lofty heights ( im pretty certain there is about the same chance of Kid Thunder having the same run) He will have to string together 3/4 solid wins, now Hatton is 31 how long will it take to get them fights in 2 years minimum??
Maybe one more fight to finish of a win against a light hitting contender/title holder maybe but a go at the top again?? NO it will end in disaster imo.
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
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skel1983
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
There is no need for him to come back really, his latest loss makes it very difficult to comeback and be a major player again, hes to old and been in to many wars to make a serious comeback to the top and add to that he looks pretty shot to me.
Stay retired.
You not updated your sig yet Hammer ;D
30 years old is now considered too old??
Your supposed to be hitting your prime at that age not calling it a day. So he got knocked out by manny pacquiao and floyd mayweather. 2 of the very best around and you could quite easily argue that ricky has already fought his 2 hardest fights and should still be able to retire as world champion.
Fact is ricky hatton pulls in fans all over the world. It would be a crying shame if someone so young decided to pack it in just because of 2 defeats!!
PS:He won the WBA at welter and not light welter!
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0Hallam FM Arena, Sheffield, Yorkshire, United KingdomWKO912x3~ time: 1:10 | referee: Mickey Vann | judge: John Coyle | judge: Ruben Garcia, Dr. | judge: Guy Jutras ~
~ IBF light welterweight title ~
~ WBA Super World light welterweight title ~
Did you not get my message quite suprised you didnt actully know he beat Carlos Maussa in sheffield in December 2005 for the WBA strap at 140, seen as you are one of his biggest fans?? Did you not realise that mate??
Yes he is 30, well 31 in a few weeks but what is Hattons objective the guy has been involved in some of the biggest ppv's ever in boxing, now me personally if I had got to them heights I wouldnt be happy fighting bums in my own backyard, i just dont see the point??
So my point is if Hatton wants to get to them lofty heights ( im pretty certain there is about the same chance of Kid Thunder having the same run) He will have to string together 3/4 solid wins, now Hatton is 31 how long will it take to get them fights in 2 years minimum??
Maybe one more fight to finish of a win against a light hitting contender/title holder maybe but a go at the top again?? NO it will end in disaster imo.
with that logic shane mosley should of retired the night he got beat by winky or cotto
Great champions face adversity head on and come through it. In america if you lose a big fight you simply dust yourself off and come back a better person for it. Yet in britain we seem to just give up and tell our fighters to retire.
Lennox got bashed something wrong when rahman done him and there was nationwide calls for him to call it a day. But in carrying on he cemented his legacy in the sport.....and he was much older than hatton.
ps: how weird, lol. Ive literally not an hour ago watched rounds 5 through finish of the maussa fight. Genuinely though it was just his IBF on the line (is super WBA actually the official WBA belt?)
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
30 years old is now considered too old??
Your supposed to be hitting your prime at that age not calling it a day. So he got knocked out by manny pacquiao and floyd mayweather. 2 of the very best around and you could quite easily argue that ricky has already fought his 2 hardest fights and should still be able to retire as world champion.
Fact is ricky hatton pulls in fans all over the world. It would be a crying shame if someone so young decided to pack it in just because of 2 defeats!!
PS:He won the WBA at welter and not light welter!
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0Hallam FM Arena, Sheffield, Yorkshire, United KingdomWKO912x3~ time: 1:10 | referee: Mickey Vann | judge: John Coyle | judge: Ruben Garcia, Dr. | judge: Guy Jutras ~
~ IBF light welterweight title ~
~ WBA Super World light welterweight title ~
Did you not get my message quite suprised you didnt actully know he beat Carlos Maussa in sheffield in December 2005 for the WBA strap at 140, seen as you are one of his biggest fans?? Did you not realise that mate??
Yes he is 30, well 31 in a few weeks but what is Hattons objective the guy has been involved in some of the biggest ppv's ever in boxing, now me personally if I had got to them heights I wouldnt be happy fighting bums in my own backyard, i just dont see the point??
So my point is if Hatton wants to get to them lofty heights ( im pretty certain there is about the same chance of Kid Thunder having the same run) He will have to string together 3/4 solid wins, now Hatton is 31 how long will it take to get them fights in 2 years minimum??
Maybe one more fight to finish of a win against a light hitting contender/title holder maybe but a go at the top again?? NO it will end in disaster imo.
with that logic shane mosley should of retired the night he got beat by winky or cotto
Great champions face adversity head on and come through it. In america if you lose a big fight you simply dust yourself off and come back a better person for it. Yet in britain we seem to just give up and tell our fighters to retire.
Lennox got bashed something wrong when rahman done him and there was nationwide calls for him to call it a day. But in carrying on he cemented his legacy in the sport.....and he was much older than hatton.
ps: how weird, lol. Ive literally not an hour ago watched rounds 5 through finish of the maussa fight. Genuinely though it was just his IBF on the line (is super WBA actually the official WBA belt?)
Come on mate, same as Mosley?? Hatton was knocked the fuck out and was down three times in 2 rounds, Mosley lost a very close fight to Cotto and the second fight with Winky was a competitive fight.
But in truth Hammer Hatton is not a great fighter hes a good fighter whose popularity and his win over KT have got him where he is.
Everyone new Lewis didnt take the Rahman contest seriously he was filiming oceans eleven couple of weeks before, difference is Lewis was a very strong favourite to beat Rahmen in the rematch, I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone who would give Hatton a chance in a rematch.
My main problem is Hatton doesnt look the same fighter, his chin looked awful again Manny and Manny is not a devestating puncher far from it ( watch the Diaz fight for proof he threw the kitchen sink at him for 9 rounds)
Hatton is only 31 not very old Mosley is 38 but there different styles Hatton has taken alot of punishment and for me there is no point on giving it another go. He wont get to the top again.
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
Skel is right - it's all about how you lose.
Mosley has never been humiliatingly knocked out.
Hatton never had the style for longevity (had a good run mind). Once the face first pressure merchants start getting battered they're done.
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
30 years old is now considered too old??
Your supposed to be hitting your prime at that age not calling it a day. So he got knocked out by manny pacquiao and floyd mayweather. 2 of the very best around and you could quite easily argue that ricky has already fought his 2 hardest fights and should still be able to retire as world champion.
Fact is ricky hatton pulls in fans all over the world. It would be a crying shame if someone so young decided to pack it in just because of 2 defeats!!
PS:He won the WBA at welter and not light welter!
2005-11-2663.3
Carlos Maussa63.5
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0Hallam FM Arena, Sheffield, Yorkshire, United KingdomWKO912x3~ time: 1:10 | referee: Mickey Vann | judge: John Coyle | judge: Ruben Garcia, Dr. | judge: Guy Jutras ~
~ IBF light welterweight title ~
~ WBA Super World light welterweight title ~
Did you not get my message quite suprised you didnt actully know he beat Carlos Maussa in sheffield in December 2005 for the WBA strap at 140, seen as you are one of his biggest fans?? Did you not realise that mate??
Yes he is 30, well 31 in a few weeks but what is Hattons objective the guy has been involved in some of the biggest ppv's ever in boxing, now me personally if I had got to them heights I wouldnt be happy fighting bums in my own backyard, i just dont see the point??
So my point is if Hatton wants to get to them lofty heights ( im pretty certain there is about the same chance of Kid Thunder having the same run) He will have to string together 3/4 solid wins, now Hatton is 31 how long will it take to get them fights in 2 years minimum??
Maybe one more fight to finish of a win against a light hitting contender/title holder maybe but a go at the top again?? NO it will end in disaster imo.
with that logic shane mosley should of retired the night he got beat by winky or cotto
Great champions face adversity head on and come through it. In america if you lose a big fight you simply dust yourself off and come back a better person for it. Yet in britain we seem to just give up and tell our fighters to retire.
Lennox got bashed something wrong when rahman done him and there was nationwide calls for him to call it a day. But in carrying on he cemented his legacy in the sport.....and he was much older than hatton.
ps: how weird, lol. Ive literally not an hour ago watched rounds 5 through finish of the maussa fight. Genuinely though it was just his IBF on the line (is super WBA actually the official WBA belt?)
Maussa won the WBA Belt from Vivian Harris why else would Ricky fight someone so shit?? 1 reason cos he was the WBA champ, suprised you didnt know that mate, as soon as Hatton won Frank Warren signed up M'Baye lets take two guesses why that was, oh yes M'Baye was the number one contender in the WBA rankings ;).
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
In England perhaps....but the sport isn't getting held up without him.
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
Well, I miss Hatton and would love to see him fight again even if it isn't on the same level as before. It would be nice for the fans to see him one last time in Manchester at least.
He can't want to go out on the back of that loss.
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
The sport has 2 genuine cross-over superstars in Floyd Mayweather & Manny Pacquiao, with possibly a 3rd should Miguel Cotto be victorious on November 14th.
Fact is it no longer looks like Hatton was the draw in the US for his fights with Mayweather, unless you argue JMM is a bigger draw.
In all honesty, I'm not sure even boxing in Britain needs Hatton, he didn't make it more accessible to the general public fighting on Box Office. If he was such a star & made boxing better, why can't Froch get a fight on tv? I'd take that over Ricky fighting a tomato can on PPV any day of the week.
So, no, boxing doesn't need him. Him being there or not doesn't make the slightest difference to anyone but his fans.
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I do miss him for sure. Followed him for years. But. Its time to sit back, remember the good nights and let the show go on i'm afriad. As Lyle says, things are still movin on. Although Hatton might not be fighting, he defo brings on some good shows himself for sure. He puts on a good show on his promotion and I'd say things will only get better o the British scene atleast. There are fighters to keep us entertained for a while IMO, I say we should dish out some support elsewhere, it'll help British boxing for sure. Maybe not greats and i'm sure there are more.....
John Murray
Amir Kon
Kel Brook
Jamie Moore
Kevin Mitchell
Carl Froch
Joe Murray
Billy Joe Saunders
James Degale
Frankie Gavin
Tony Jeffries
Matthew Macklin
George Groves
Nathan Cleverly
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I don t think boxing needs Hatton as there are lots of other young exciting fighter coming through the ranks in the UK.
What British boxing need despratly is tv coverage.
This time last year there were loads of outlets for UK boxers to get much need expousure but very soon its just going to be down to sky tv.
That IMO is British boxings most imedeate problem at the moment.
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themacmagician
I do miss him for sure. Followed him for years. But. Its time to sit back, remember the good nights and let the show go on i'm afriad. As Lyle says, things are still movin on. Although Hatton might not be fighting, he defo brings on some good shows himself for sure. He puts on a good show on his promotion and I'd say things will only get better o the British scene atleast. There are fighters to keep us entertained for a while IMO, I say we should dish out some support elsewhere, it'll help British boxing for sure. Maybe not greats and i'm sure there are more.....
John Murray
Amir Kon
Kel Brook
Jamie Moore
Kevin Mitchell
Carl Froch
Joe Murray
Billy Joe Saunders
James Degale
Frankie Gavin
Tony Jeffries
Matthew Macklin
George Groves
Nathan Cleverly
Good list.
David Haye...not a fan or forgot to add him;D
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hattonthehammer
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
Cant help but think since may the sport has lost its biggest personality and all the fan fare and excitement that comes with a ricky hatton showdown.
This sport needs its personalitys to survive and despite not managing to win either of his 2 major showdowns he brought a hell of a lot of anticipation and charisma.
Remembering standing in the middle of a packed out vegas strip belting out a hatton chant and wondering if there truly is a single person in not just the sporting world but across the globe who can truly bring this kind of excitement and passion with them?
Not for all your mayweathers, mosleys, calzaghes and klitschkos can you get or create such anticipation and intrigue as a ricky hatton
There is no need for him to come back really, his latest loss makes it very difficult to comeback and be a major player again, hes to old and been in to many wars to make a serious comeback to the top and add to that he looks pretty shot to me.
Stay retired.
You not updated your sig yet Hammer ;D
30 years old is now considered too old??
Your supposed to be hitting your prime at that age not calling it a day. So he got knocked out by manny pacquiao and floyd mayweather. 2 of the very best around and you could quite easily argue that ricky has already fought his 2 hardest fights and should still be able to retire as world champion.
Fact is ricky hatton pulls in fans all over the world. It would be a crying shame if someone so young decided to pack it in just because of 2 defeats!!
PS:He won the WBA at welter and not light welter!
Ricky is a brawler type of fighter they dont have aslong of a career than say the likes of Mosley.Ricky has been hit alot and is past his best.
I think at the moment us fans mis him more than he misses fighting at the moment.
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
....not any where as much as hatton needs boxing.
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great thread really enjoyed reading it ;)
for me if he fights on it just wouldn't be the same and i don't think boxing is missing him world wide just mainly the die hard fans craving for happier times when he was king of the castle.
Could he fight on sure there are still a few fights i'd watch him in...
Shot Hatton Vs Shot Witter even enough fight IMO
Hatton Vs khan would be an very intresting and massive selling fight in the UK.
Hatton Vs Judah would prob still intreast me for nostalgia.
but aint intrested in him lining his pockets on fighting some piss poor Euro guy and selling it as a fairwell for the fans.
he's started promoting now and really i can't see him coming back unless the promotions or his name starts to go stale.
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I don't think he's got any chance of another PPV fight in America. I think the best he could do now is JMM or Juan Diaz. Both those guys would take the fight in England because it's probably their biggest potential payday. I think Hatton will fight one of them if he does fight again and I think it'd fractionally more likely than not that he will fight again even though he's finished at the top level.
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porkypara
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Originally Posted by
themacmagician
I do miss him for sure. Followed him for years. But. Its time to sit back, remember the good nights and let the show go on i'm afriad. As Lyle says, things are still movin on. Although Hatton might not be fighting, he defo brings on some good shows himself for sure. He puts on a good show on his promotion and I'd say things will only get better o the British scene atleast. There are fighters to keep us entertained for a while IMO, I say we should dish out some support elsewhere, it'll help British boxing for sure. Maybe not greats and i'm sure there are more.....
John Murray
Amir Kon
Kel Brook
Jamie Moore
Kevin Mitchell
Carl Froch
Joe Murray
Billy Joe Saunders
James Degale
Frankie Gavin
Tony Jeffries
Matthew Macklin
George Groves
Nathan Cleverly
Good list.
David Haye...not a fan or forgot to add him;D
Certainly forgot man..... Not his biggest fan just yet but he should have been on there. To be honest, i'd like to see Haye fight Tomas Adamek or Steve Cunningham, so if he doesn't make the heavies, theres a good place for him down there anyway still i think.....
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
Hatton and his crowd were for sure bringing a cool buzz and one of the fiercest. However, Boxing doesn't need absolutely it to be healthy and in good condition. I think Hatton should stay where he is before getting anymore damageable injuries.
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Hatton should have 1 last fight in England...just for his fans and maybe to go out with a win instead of having Pacquiao's fist and a bunch of swirling stars and birdies being his last boxing memory.
Saddo mentioned a few good bouts...how about these?
Hatton-Prescott: Avenging Amir Kahn's lone loss...or giving us fodder for a rematch.
Hatton-Alex Arthur: a domestic battle nobody probably thought of (I assume for reasons you're all about to tell me)
Hatton-Michael Katsidis: perfect style matchup
Hatton-Demetrius Hopkins: B-Hop's cousin or whatever would be a good named opponent and a good story as perhaps B-Hop and memories of him vs Calzaghe could help sell the show, like Ricky would need help selling tickets thoug :rolleyes:
Forget Marquez and Diaz, #1 Marquez still has a little left #2 Diaz is a lousy bastard who never fights away from Houston because he can't lose there.
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Fenster
Hatton never had the style for longevity (had a good run mind). Once the face first pressure merchants start getting battered they're done.
Totally agree, plus Hatton didn't do well moving up, and it's ruinous on him to get down to 140. I guess he could have a last hurrah, but really if it's just some relative tomato can, what's the point?
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
In America, nobody really gives a fukk about Hatton.
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As ive said all along while i dont see the point in hatton drawing out a career in which he becomes desperately found out later on. Losses to floyd and pacquiao do not indicate a fighter who is past his sell by date more someone who fought at a level which was just too much for him.
He got frustrated against floyd and allowed his head to rule his heart, by no means was it a battering and even going into the last third of the fight he was still well in it. Pacquiao was a calamity from start to finish. You can train longer and harder than youve ever done in your entire life but if the gameplan isnt there against top level opposition you dont stand a chance.
If ricky hatton was american and had a career record that read 45-2 there wouldnt be a single person on this site calling for a halt to his career. Yet because us brits cant take seeing our boy take a beating we declare that the only reason he lost was because he was "past his sell by date"
The hatton that fought malignaggi was the quickest, busiest and strongest hatton ive seen since the kostya/vivian harris fights. That night he was reinvented yet within 6 disasterous minutes he is once again a shot fighter???????
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hattonthehammer
As ive said all along while i dont see the point in hatton drawing out a career in which he becomes desperately found out later on. Losses to floyd and pacquiao do not indicate a fighter who is past his sell by date more someone who fought at a level which was just too much for him.
He got frustrated against floyd and allowed his head to rule his heart, by no means was it a battering and even going into the last third of the fight he was still well in it. Pacquiao was a calamity from start to finish. You can train longer and harder than youve ever done in your entire life but if the gameplan isnt there against top level opposition you dont stand a chance.
If ricky hatton was american and had a career record that read 45-2 there wouldnt be a single person on this site calling for a halt to his career. Yet because us brits cant take seeing our boy take a beating we declare that the only reason he lost was because he was "past his sell by date"
The hatton that fought malignaggi was the quickest, busiest and strongest hatton ive seen since the kostya/vivian harris fights. That night he was reinvented yet within 6 disasterous minutes he is once again a shot fighter???????
Im English not only English im from a place 20 mintues down the road from Hatton, he should retire.
When did he fight Vivian Harris?? I dont want to argue mate, but again it was the mannor of defeat against Pac, he is not a knockout artist. Hattons chin looked like jelly.
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skel1983
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hattonthehammer
As ive said all along while i dont see the point in hatton drawing out a career in which he becomes desperately found out later on. Losses to floyd and pacquiao do not indicate a fighter who is past his sell by date more someone who fought at a level which was just too much for him.
He got frustrated against floyd and allowed his head to rule his heart, by no means was it a battering and even going into the last third of the fight he was still well in it. Pacquiao was a calamity from start to finish. You can train longer and harder than youve ever done in your entire life but if the gameplan isnt there against top level opposition you dont stand a chance.
If ricky hatton was american and had a career record that read 45-2 there wouldnt be a single person on this site calling for a halt to his career. Yet because us brits cant take seeing our boy take a beating we declare that the only reason he lost was because he was "past his sell by date"
The hatton that fought malignaggi was the quickest, busiest and strongest hatton ive seen since the kostya/vivian harris fights. That night he was reinvented yet within 6 disasterous minutes he is once again a shot fighter???????
Im English not only English im from a place 20 mintues down the road from Hatton, he should retire.
When did he fight Vivian Harris?? I dont want to argue mate, but again it was the mannor of defeat against Pac, he is not a knockout artist. Hattons chin looked like jelly.
It was a 2round mauling, he got caught hard early on and never recovered. He didnt take a dela hoya type complete hammering where he didnt land effectively once all night. He didnt look like someone who had lost any speed, strength etc and he sure as hell had never been caught that hard and often by anyone he had ever been in with. Just in with a far superior opponent who had worked out hattons one dimensional game plan to a tee.
In a sport such us boxing early ends will always happen. Its what makes this sport the greatest in the world because from first bell to last it can end at any moment. Ricky should fight on, not for the fans nor his ego but because even at 30/31 he still is more than capable of a few vintage performances like what he produced against malignaggi
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
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hattonthehammer
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Originally Posted by
skel1983
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Originally Posted by
hattonthehammer
As ive said all along while i dont see the point in hatton drawing out a career in which he becomes desperately found out later on. Losses to floyd and pacquiao do not indicate a fighter who is past his sell by date more someone who fought at a level which was just too much for him.
He got frustrated against floyd and allowed his head to rule his heart, by no means was it a battering and even going into the last third of the fight he was still well in it. Pacquiao was a calamity from start to finish. You can train longer and harder than youve ever done in your entire life but if the gameplan isnt there against top level opposition you dont stand a chance.
If ricky hatton was american and had a career record that read 45-2 there wouldnt be a single person on this site calling for a halt to his career. Yet because us brits cant take seeing our boy take a beating we declare that the only reason he lost was because he was "past his sell by date"
The hatton that fought malignaggi was the quickest, busiest and strongest hatton ive seen since the kostya/vivian harris fights. That night he was reinvented yet within 6 disasterous minutes he is once again a shot fighter???????
Im English not only English im from a place 20 mintues down the road from Hatton, he should retire.
When did he fight Vivian Harris?? I dont want to argue mate, but again it was the mannor of defeat against Pac, he is not a knockout artist. Hattons chin looked like jelly.
It was a 2round mauling, he got caught hard early on and never recovered. He didnt take a dela hoya type complete hammering where he didnt land effectively once all night. He didnt look like someone who had lost any speed, strength etc and he sure as hell had never been caught that hard and often by anyone he had ever been in with. Just in with a far superior opponent who had worked out hattons one dimensional game plan to a tee.
In a sport such us boxing early ends will always happen. Its what makes this sport the greatest in the world because from first bell to last it can end at any moment. Ricky should fight on, not for the fans nor his ego but because even at 30/31 he still is more than capable of a few vintage performances like what he produced against malignaggi
But let's not forget that Paulie has no punch and hasn't stopped an opponent since 1764. Hatton was able to use his quick feet to get in close and show no respect while doing so. In a few recent fights now Hatton has been stopped or else wobbly. Mayweather, Lazcano, Pacquiao, heck even Collazo who isn't a big puncher had him in some trouble. Hattons chin does seem to be wavering.
Part of me would like one more fight to say farewell, but I would have him nowhere near any big punchers again. Not after being flat out for several minutes last time out. Nobody is ever out for that long in a major fight. It was worrying.
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Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
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Im English not only English im from a place 20 mintues down the road from Hatton, he should retire.
When did he fight Vivian Harris?? I dont want to argue mate, but again it was the mannor of defeat against Pac, he is not a knockout artist. Hattons chin looked like jelly.
It was a 2round mauling, he got caught hard early on and never recovered. He didnt take a dela hoya type complete hammering where he didnt land effectively once all night. He didnt look like someone who had lost any speed, strength etc and he sure as hell had never been caught that hard and often by anyone he had ever been in with. Just in with a far superior opponent who had worked out hattons one dimensional game plan to a tee.
In a sport such us boxing early ends will always happen. Its what makes this sport the greatest in the world because from first bell to last it can end at any moment. Ricky should fight on, not for the fans nor his ego but because even at 30/31 he still is more than capable of a few vintage performances like what he produced against malignaggi
But let's not forget that Paulie has no punch and hasn't stopped an opponent since 1764. Hatton was able to use his quick feet to get in close and show no respect while doing so. In a few recent fights now Hatton has been stopped or else wobbly. Mayweather, Lazcano, Pacquiao, heck even Collazo who isn't a big puncher had him in some trouble. Hattons chin does seem to be wavering.
Part of me would like one more fight to say farewell, but I would have him nowhere near any big punchers again. Not after being flat out for several minutes last time out. Nobody is ever out for that long in a major fight. It was worrying.
Paulie doesnt have it in him to knockout anyone of any reasonable standard thats been conclusively proved.
But what has also been shown in his fights with cotto and diaz is that he is an extremely awkward opponent to get to grips with and to date only hatton has managed to completely expose and dominate him over 12rounds (TKO in the 11th)
Hatton isnt the great great fighter of the 21st century, thats been conclusively proven. But for anyone to claim that by watching 6minutes of boxing they can say he is past his sell by date is madness.
Pacquiao would of done the same thing to the same hatton that fought kostya tszyu. Im the biggest hatton nut on this site and even i can accept that!!
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It was a 2round mauling, he got caught hard early on and never recovered. He didnt take a dela hoya type complete hammering where he didnt land effectively once all night. He didnt look like someone who had lost any speed, strength etc and he sure as hell had never been caught that hard and often by anyone he had ever been in with. Just in with a far superior opponent who had worked out hattons one dimensional game plan to a tee.
In a sport such us boxing early ends will always happen. Its what makes this sport the greatest in the world because from first bell to last it can end at any moment. Ricky should fight on, not for the fans nor his ego but because even at 30/31 he still is more than capable of a few vintage performances like what he produced against malignaggi
But let's not forget that Paulie has no punch and hasn't stopped an opponent since 1764. Hatton was able to use his quick feet to get in close and show no respect while doing so. In a few recent fights now Hatton has been stopped or else wobbly. Mayweather, Lazcano, Pacquiao, heck even Collazo who isn't a big puncher had him in some trouble. Hattons chin does seem to be wavering.
Part of me would like one more fight to say farewell, but I would have him nowhere near any big punchers again. Not after being flat out for several minutes last time out. Nobody is ever out for that long in a major fight. It was worrying.
Paulie doesnt have it in him to knockout anyone of any reasonable standard thats been conclusively proved.
But what has also been shown in his fights with cotto and diaz is that he is an extremely awkward opponent to get to grips with and to date only hatton has managed to completely expose and dominate him over 12rounds (TKO in the 11th)
Hatton isnt the great great fighter of the 21st century, thats been conclusively proven. But for anyone to claim that by watching 6minutes of boxing they can say he is past his sell by date is madness.
Pacquiao would of done the same thing to the same hatton that fought kostya tszyu. Im the biggest hatton nut on this site and even i can accept that!!
I've been defending Malignaggi a bit recently, so can see he has balls considering his fists are made of cotton. He is a tricky customer and at his best is a handful for a lot of people. Hattons performance was impeccable, didn't put a foot wrong.
TBH I still have a hard time getting my head around those two rounds against Manny. It was so frustrating to watch. I don't think Hatton at his best simply gets blown out by Manny though, Hatton on the night fought one of those most reckless displays I have seen in a long while and got blasted for it. It's a fight that I really struggle to sit through, just horrible.
Like I say I wouldn't mind him coming back for another crack, but to do it for the right reasons and to watch that chin. I was always against a Khan fight, but I would love for him to comeback and knock Khan for six and then just walk away and say "That's me lot!". Would be nice for the fans too, but Hatton is seemingly as far from the ring as ever.
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But let's not forget that Paulie has no punch and hasn't stopped an opponent since 1764. Hatton was able to use his quick feet to get in close and show no respect while doing so. In a few recent fights now Hatton has been stopped or else wobbly. Mayweather, Lazcano, Pacquiao, heck even Collazo who isn't a big puncher had him in some trouble. Hattons chin does seem to be wavering.
Part of me would like one more fight to say farewell, but I would have him nowhere near any big punchers again. Not after being flat out for several minutes last time out. Nobody is ever out for that long in a major fight. It was worrying.
Paulie doesnt have it in him to knockout anyone of any reasonable standard thats been conclusively proved.
But what has also been shown in his fights with cotto and diaz is that he is an extremely awkward opponent to get to grips with and to date only hatton has managed to completely expose and dominate him over 12rounds (TKO in the 11th)
Hatton isnt the great great fighter of the 21st century, thats been conclusively proven. But for anyone to claim that by watching 6minutes of boxing they can say he is past his sell by date is madness.
Pacquiao would of done the same thing to the same hatton that fought kostya tszyu. Im the biggest hatton nut on this site and even i can accept that!!
I've been defending Malignaggi a bit recently, so can see he has balls considering his fists are made of cotton. He is a tricky customer and at his best is a handful for a lot of people. Hattons performance was impeccable, didn't put a foot wrong.
TBH I still have a hard time getting my head around those two rounds against Manny. It was so frustrating to watch. I don't think Hatton at his best simply gets blown out by Manny though, Hatton on the night fought one of those most reckless displays I have seen in a long while and got blasted for it. It's a fight that I really struggle to sit through, just horrible.
Like I say I wouldn't mind him coming back for another crack, but to do it for the right reasons and to watch that chin. I was always against a Khan fight, but I would love for him to comeback and knock Khan for six and then just walk away and say "That's me lot!". Would be nice for the fans too, but Hatton is seemingly as far from the ring as ever.
paulies one of those rare combinations of horrible to fight and horrible to watch
Manny Pacquiao is more than beatable (unlike floyd) but it was tactically the worst possible display anyone has ever put up against both himself and during a massive vegas showdown.
What the hell floyd snr was teaching him for 12 weeks god only knows. But reckless lunges, no use of footwork or jab and failure to combinate that sharp straight left = a very early night against manny which he got
It was a horrible disasterous display that deserved what it got. It was a carcrash of a defeat....it wasnt a slow painful beatdown ala pac-delahoya, calzaghe-lacy which really is a career ender!!
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In America, nobody really gives a fukk about Hatton.
In America nobody really gives a fukk about BOXING
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In America, nobody really gives a fukk about Hatton.
In America nobody really gives a fukk about
BOXING
Hatton has managed to do what nearly all "popular" US boxers haven't managed in recent times and that is to build up an audience willing to follow and watch their fighter.
I would take VD's comments with a pinch of salt TBH.
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In America, nobody really gives a fukk about Hatton.
In America nobody really gives a fukk about
BOXING
Yes i guess the 1 million Americans who paid $50.00 for the Mayweather Marquez fight would agree :p.
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In America, nobody really gives a fukk about Hatton.
In America nobody really gives a fukk about
BOXING
Yes i guess the 1 million Americans who paid $50.00 for the Mayweather Marquez fight would agree :p.
It couldn't even fill up the venue though. American fighters don't have in venue support. Pavlik is the only one who comes close to it these days. The Marquez fans far outnumbered the two Mayweather fans!
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In America nobody really gives a fukk about BOXING
Yes i guess the 1 million Americans who paid $50.00 for the Mayweather Marquez fight would agree :p.
It couldn't even fill up the venue though, and if that is the most meaningful fight to have taken place in America in recent times then it's no wonder the place is sinking. American fighters don't have in venue support. Pavlik is the only one who comes close to it these days. The Marquez fans far outnumbered the two Mayweather fans!
sad but true
when tyson, bowe, holyfield fought eachother everyone in america knew they were fighting. Nowadays id guess at the very least 40% of americans have no idea who floyd mayweather is :(:(:(
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Yes i guess the 1 million Americans who paid $50.00 for the Mayweather Marquez fight would agree :p.
It couldn't even fill up the venue though, and if that is the most meaningful fight to have taken place in America in recent times then it's no wonder the place is sinking. American fighters don't have in venue support. Pavlik is the only one who comes close to it these days. The Marquez fans far outnumbered the two Mayweather fans!
sad but true
when tyson, bowe, holyfield fought eachother everyone in america knew they were fighting. Nowadays id guess at the very least 40% of americans have no idea who floyd mayweather is :(:(:(
I would disagree with that mate, there maybe not fans but im quite sure your average American who has been in the country in the last ten years knows who Floyd Mayweather is.
If your American is this correct?? Ive seen him on most national news stations he has done Letterman, WWE, etc etc.
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Yes i guess the 1 million Americans who paid $50.00 for the Mayweather Marquez fight would agree :p.
It couldn't even fill up the venue though, and if that is the most meaningful fight to have taken place in America in recent times then it's no wonder the place is sinking. American fighters don't have in venue support. Pavlik is the only one who comes close to it these days. The Marquez fans far outnumbered the two Mayweather fans!
sad but true
when tyson, bowe, holyfield fought eachother everyone in america knew they were fighting. Nowadays id guess at the very least 40% of americans have no idea who floyd mayweather is :(:(:(
Ouch, you quoted me before my sensible head decided to erase the excess rhetoric. Of course, I don't think a failure to provide the best fights with the best supporters has led to a massive decline in the US economy. Gulp. The economy has been one of my interests recently and the decline of the US has been a main feature, I think this might have got into my mind there.
Moving on from that....personally I don't know what Americans think about Mayweather but he doesn't have an active fanbase. If anything his mouth turns people off. Great skills, but he could use a new gargling tonic.
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It couldn't even fill up the venue though, and if that is the most meaningful fight to have taken place in America in recent times then it's no wonder the place is sinking. American fighters don't have in venue support. Pavlik is the only one who comes close to it these days. The Marquez fans far outnumbered the two Mayweather fans!
sad but true
when tyson, bowe, holyfield fought eachother everyone in america knew they were fighting. Nowadays id guess at the very least 40% of americans have no idea who floyd mayweather is :(:(:(
I would disagree with that mate, there maybe not fans but im quite sure your average American who has been in the country in the last ten years knows who Floyd Mayweather is.
If your American is this correct?? Ive seen him on most national news stations he has done Letterman, WWE, etc etc.
WWE/F is hardly mainstream is it?
And if it is then obviously more people know a fake actor like stone cold more than the current greatest fighter in the world:(
The problem with boxing right now is that their arent enough fighters with the combination of flamboyant and good to make it interesting for your casual fan.
The likes of marquez, cotto, pavlik, klitschko just wont cut it - mayweather, haye and jones however will always be sellable because of the way they go about promoting their events.
You can hate him as much as you want but the sport is far greater now floyd is back!!
