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What did you see different with Khan ?
After watching the Salita fight , and listening to Ian Darke and Jim Watt banging on about how Khan is going to conquer America with this kind of performance , I have to say Khan did a good job , but i didn't see anything i didn't already know about Khan.
He has fantastic speed , good power , and improved defence under Freddie Roach , but he fought a guy with a weak chin , he didn't take any punches , so question marks still remain about Khan's chin.
I want to see Khan in a hard fight , so we can truly judge him on his improvements , he did everything asked of him on Saturday night , but I'm not so convinced he can become an elite fighter.
This is not a dig at Khan , I'm just interested in your views guys.
Discuss.
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Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
I think there are always going to be questions about Khan's chin until he proves that he is able to take punches from even moderately-heavy punchers. However, he has shown significant grown since joining Roach's stable and as long as his defense continues to improve he'll be able to mask his suspect punch-resistance.
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His jab is no longer just a range finder, it's actually a weapon.
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He just looks more assured to me, and maybe a little less vulnerable. He seems more disciplined and looks like he's beginning to understand how to execute a gameplan. I'm sure there is plenty of stuff but the fight on Saturday didn't allow him to showcase anything other than speed and power.
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ono
He just looks more assured to me, and maybe a little less vulnerable. He seems more disciplined and looks like he's beginning to understand how to execute a gameplan. I'm sure there is plenty of stuff but the fight on Saturday didn't allow him to showcase anything other than speed and power.
I agree, definately more assured. Of course it was over so quickly can't tell for sure, the first 1-2 did the job then went for the finish.
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You cant see any improvement in this fight as his opponent was a bum.
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CutMeMick
His jab is no longer just a range finder, it's actually a weapon.
That's what Roach said when khan sparred with Pac.
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How the hell can anyone tell what improvements they've seen, when he hasn't even been in with an elite fighter who's tested him ? i haven't seen any real improvements except his defense is better.
But then again he did get clocked quite a few times vs Andriy Kotelnik late on, and if he would of been puncher then who knows ?
Amir Khan has always had the talent i don't see any real difference there, except he isn't as wild and his defense is better which is good.
But i think its way too early to say anything, until he fights someone who tests him. Its easy to look improved against a one eyed undersized MAB, crap Otis Fagan, mediocre Andriy Kotelnik, weak chinned Dmitriy Salita.
We will see his dramatic improvements if there is any, against the fighters i've mentioned in the other topics.
But if there is anyone to improve Amir Khan, then its Freddie Roach. Look at Manny Pacquiao he used to be a one dimensional fighter.
Now he has a right hand, much improved boxing skills. Much better use of using angles, and he can box more smartly if he chooses, aswell as much better counter punching.
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ono
He just looks more assured to me, and maybe a little less vulnerable. He seems more disciplined and looks like he's beginning to understand how to execute a gameplan. I'm sure there is plenty of stuff but the fight on Saturday didn't allow him to showcase anything other than speed and power.
I agree, definately more assured. Of course it was over so quickly can't tell for sure, the first 1-2 did the job then went for the finish.
I agree with you two.
His chin will always be a big worry but I think he's got to the stage where only world-class fighters will exploit it.
Before Barrera he looked as though any half-decent fighter would catch him. Definitely improved. He doesn't look so beatable.
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How the hell can anyone tell what improvements they've seen, when he hasn't even been in with an elite fighter who's tested him ? i haven't seen any real improvements except his defense is better.
But then again he did get clocked quite a few times vs Andriy Kotelnik late on, and if he would of been puncher then who knows ?
Amir Khan has always had the talent i don't see any real difference there, except he isn't as wild and his defense is better which is good.
But i think its way too early to say anything, until he fights someone who tests him. Its easy to look improved against a one eyed undersized MAB, crap Otis Fagan, mediocre Andriy Kotelnik, weak chinned Dmitriy Salita.
We will see his dramatic improvements if there is any, against the fighters i've mentioned in the other topics.
But if there is anyone to improve Amir Khan, then its Freddie Roach. Look at Manny Pacquiao he used to be a one dimensional fighter.
Now he has a right hand, much improved boxing skills. Much better use of using angles, and he can box more smartly if he chooses, aswell as much better counter punching.
Thing is, I had to listen to Ian Darke telling me how good Gavin Rees' chin (on prizefight)is yet weak punching Kotelnik had him on queer street. Don't forget Khan moved up to 140 so although Kotelnik might not be a big puncher at 140, he's accurate and powerful enough to hurt someone who's used to facing under-sized 135lbers. Khan's chin looked ok. Maybe he has a bit of Cotto syndrome. Maybe 135 was a struggle....considering he was down to 1% bodyfat ;D
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Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
Not much, after knocking the senses out of his opponent it was nothing more than target practice.
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Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
He's definitely a lot better since he went to Roach but you didn't exactly get much chance to judge on Saturday. He's still got the same chin though, if a lightweight can spark him then somebody at 140 is eventually going to do it.
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Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
Will someone explain to me whether Khan must (as in it is his mandatory defense) defend the title against Maidana in his next fight? I'm just not ready to give Khan credit until he handles a puncher. I can just see Khan taking on Paulie if Paulie wins this weekend, which would make it three fights in a row against fighters who don't have much punching power. No one is doubting Khan's boxing ability and he has KO power, but he lacks a chin - qualities that are much like Haye really.
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I do think his defense has improved over the past 4 fights and he seems to pace himself better and his footwork seems better also.
I already knew Khan had pop though, He has good power when he sits down on his punches.
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Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
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Rantcatrat
Will someone explain to me whether Khan must (as in it is his mandatory defense) defend the title against Maidana in his next fight? I'm just not ready to give Khan credit until he handles a puncher. I can just see Khan taking on Paulie if Paulie wins this weekend, which would make it three fights in a row against fighters who don't have much punching power. No one is doubting Khan's boxing ability and he has KO power, but he lacks a chin - qualities that are much like Haye really.
Why not? He's still shown excellent boxing skills.
Would you refuse to give Ivan Calderon credit until he knocks someone out for the count, or refuse to give Floyd Maywether credit until he beats someone with as much natural skill as him?
Even if Khan in the future does fall once more to a big puncher it does not discredit his other wins or mean he deserves no credit for his speed, power and skill.
Every fighter has strengths and weakeness and will struggle against certain types of opponents.
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CutMeMick
His jab is no longer just a range finder, it's actually a weapon.
Yes that is a good point.
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Rantcatrat
Will someone explain to me whether Khan must (as in it is his mandatory defense) defend the title against Maidana in his next fight? I'm just not ready to give Khan credit until he handles a puncher. I can just see Khan taking on Paulie if Paulie wins this weekend, which would make it three fights in a row against fighters who don't have much punching power. No one is doubting Khan's boxing ability and he has KO power, but he lacks a chin - qualities that are much like Haye really.
Why not? He's still shown excellent boxing skills.
Would you refuse to give Ivan Calderon credit until he knocks someone out for the count, or refuse to give Floyd Maywether credit until he beats someone with as much natural skill as him?
Even if Khan in the future does fall once more to a big puncher it does not discredit his other wins or mean he deserves no credit for his speed, power and skill.
Every fighter has strengths and weakeness and will struggle against certain types of opponents.
Not every fighter is perfect. Obviously.
Khan has looked good thus far and I thought he handled himself with class in and outside the ring this last Saturday. I guess to me he is just a bit overated on this board.
He is only 22 and he has the time to develop a style which emphasizes defense and minimizes his exposure to big punches. He doesn't need to rush into anything.
However, not being able to handle punchers, isn't just an insignificant weakness, it's a downfall.
I'd like to see him in with Maidana, Urango, or Campbell, but maybe he isn't ready for those tests yet. It wouldn't be a big deal, like I said, he is only 22.
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Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
You cannot tell after one fight and a one round blow out but since his defeat he has improved, tucked his chin, can be disciplined and getting more confident. Speed was always there and experience he will get in time.
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Dark Lord Al
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CutMeMick
His jab is no longer just a range finder, it's actually a weapon.
Yes that is a good point.
It counts for so much too, everything as in 'everything' can stem from a good jab. Recon you'd need one just to keep Manny off you sparring.
This kid could go far now if they pick their marks well and time it all for him.
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Dark Lord Al
After watching the Salita fight , and listening to Ian Darke and Jim Watt banging on about how Khan is going to conquer America with this kind of performance , I have to say Khan did a good job , but i didn't see anything i didn't already know about Khan.
He has fantastic speed , good power , and improved defence under Freddie Roach , but he fought a guy with a weak chin , he didn't take any punches , so question marks still remain about Khan's chin.
I want to see Khan in a hard fight , so we can truly judge him on his improvements , he did everything asked of him on Saturday night , but I'm not so convinced he can become an elite fighter.
This is not a dig at Khan , I'm just interested in your views guys.
Discuss.
Better combines, tighter defense and lighter on feet. Let's not jump in the world's conquest wagon but he did a very good improvement, the fact to spare with Manny the kingpin Pacquiao can only help him to get better as he will have to react against the best and he's just a young kid still.
All in all, I think he can be a force to reckon with, he has that potential, let's see now how it goes and it is way too soon to jump to the conclusion he,ll be the next big thing.
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Dark Lord Al
After watching the Salita fight , and listening to Ian Darke and Jim Watt banging on about how Khan is going to conquer America with this kind of performance , I have to say Khan did a good job , but i didn't see anything i didn't already know about Khan.
He has fantastic speed , good power , and improved defence under Freddie Roach , but he fought a guy with a weak chin , he didn't take any punches , so question marks still remain about Khan's chin.
I want to see Khan in a hard fight , so we can truly judge him on his improvements , he did everything asked of him on Saturday night , but I'm not so convinced he can become an elite fighter.
This is not a dig at Khan , I'm just interested in your views guys.
Discuss.
Better combines, tighter defense and lighter on feet. Let's not jump in the world's conquest wagon but he did a very good improvement, the fact to spare with Manny the kingpin Pacquiao can only help him to get better as he will have to react against the best and he's just a young kid still.
All in all, I think he can be a force to reckon with, he has that potential, let's see now how it goes and
it is way too soon to jump to the conclusion he,ll be the next big thing.
True; but with these guys behind him, he will have only himself to blame if it goes c up.
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Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
Anyone who for a second thinks that Khan hasn't improved since his arrival to the Wild Card Gym must be blind or has not seen it.
I've seen Amir at the Wild Card Gym sparring. Since his arrival here the kids def. picked up a lot of pointers and has def. improved 1 thing is certain he's a great listener and I believe this has to do with him having Freddie in his corner.
I bet not many if at all realized this but Freddie whispered into Amirs ear twice before the fight began vs. Salita.
Once while Freddies back was to the camera, the 2nd as Amir prayed.
Freddie tells Amir "Go get' em"... what happened next?
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Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
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Rantcatrat
Will someone explain to me whether Khan must (as in it is his mandatory defense) defend the title against Maidana in his next fight? I'm just not ready to give Khan credit until he handles a puncher. I can just see Khan taking on Paulie if Paulie wins this weekend, which would make it three fights in a row against fighters who don't have much punching power. No one is doubting Khan's boxing ability and he has KO power, but he lacks a chin - qualities that are much like Haye really.
Why not? He's still shown excellent boxing skills.
Would you refuse to give Ivan Calderon credit until he knocks someone out for the count, or refuse to give Floyd Maywether credit until he beats someone with as much natural skill as him?
Even if Khan in the future does fall once more to a big puncher it does not discredit his other wins or mean he deserves no credit for his speed, power and skill.
Every fighter has strengths and weakeness and will struggle against certain types of opponents.
Not every fighter is perfect. Obviously.
Khan has looked good thus far and I thought he handled himself with class in and outside the ring this last Saturday.
I guess to me he is just a bit overated on this board.
He is only 22 and he has the time to develop a style which emphasizes defense and minimizes his exposure to big punches. He doesn't need to rush into anything.
However, not being able to handle punchers, isn't just an insignificant weakness, it's a downfall.
I'd like to see him in with Maidana, Urango, or Campbell, but maybe he isn't ready for those tests yet. It wouldn't be a big deal, like I said, he is only 22.
Seriously? By whom? It seems the vast majority of fightfans regard him as a joke, the majority dislike him, some plain hate, most think he's completely chinny and will be exposed when he moves up to world class.
I actually think Khan is seriously underated by most.
I rate him highly of course, but I don't think I overrate him at all. I believe he has the potential to be great, his chin and vulnerability is a factor and he could implode at any moment in a fight, but he's improving massively and I think has as good a shot as any young prospect of making it to the very top.
I think that's an accurate assessment not an over estimation, and I probably am Amir's most vocal fan on these boards.
I have never heard a single person really go overboard on Amir's potential on this board, or on tv. I think he gets a lot of attention certainly, but I don't think anybody overates him, not even Duke McKenzie and Barry McGuigan.
They just tell us he's a terrific prospect with great potentional, which he is.
I think people confuse attention with overrating.
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If the guy's got a weak chin, and it appears he does, he will probably always have a weak chin. He can't help it so it's kinda unfair to condemn him for it. That doesn't mean he can't be a great fighter, he just has to develop a solid defense and a style that protects that chin.
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Bilbo
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Rantcatrat
Will someone explain to me whether Khan must (as in it is his mandatory defense) defend the title against Maidana in his next fight? I'm just not ready to give Khan credit until he handles a puncher. I can just see Khan taking on Paulie if Paulie wins this weekend, which would make it three fights in a row against fighters who don't have much punching power. No one is doubting Khan's boxing ability and he has KO power, but he lacks a chin - qualities that are much like Haye really.
Why not? He's still shown excellent boxing skills.
Would you refuse to give Ivan Calderon credit until he knocks someone out for the count, or refuse to give Floyd Maywether credit until he beats someone with as much natural skill as him?
Even if Khan in the future does fall once more to a big puncher it does not discredit his other wins or mean he deserves no credit for his speed, power and skill.
Every fighter has strengths and weakeness and will struggle against certain types of opponents.
Not every fighter is perfect. Obviously.
Khan has looked good thus far and I thought he handled himself with class in and outside the ring this last Saturday. I guess to me he is just a bit overated on this board.
He is only 22 and he has the time to develop a style which emphasizes defense and minimizes his exposure to big punches. He doesn't need to rush into anything.
However, not being able to handle punchers, isn't just an insignificant weakness, it's a downfall.
I'd like to see him in with Maidana, Urango, or Campbell, but maybe he isn't ready for those tests yet. It wouldn't be a big deal, like I said, he is only 22.
This sums up how legitimate Khan's claim to being WORLD CHAMPION , he is WBA champion but not ready for certain contenders ? lol bullshit politics.
For me he needs to fight a legit world class puncher and showcase his skills , and win , someone like Maidana , then he will show his true colours.Its easy to look improved against lesser fighters.
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Rantcatrat
Will someone explain to me whether Khan must (as in it is his mandatory defense) defend the title against Maidana in his next fight? I'm just not ready to give Khan credit until he handles a puncher. I can just see Khan taking on Paulie if Paulie wins this weekend, which would make it three fights in a row against fighters who don't have much punching power. No one is doubting Khan's boxing ability and he has KO power, but he lacks a chin - qualities that are much like Haye really.
Why not? He's still shown excellent boxing skills.
Would you refuse to give Ivan Calderon credit until he knocks someone out for the count, or refuse to give Floyd Maywether credit until he beats someone with as much natural skill as him?
Even if Khan in the future does fall once more to a big puncher it does not discredit his other wins or mean he deserves no credit for his speed, power and skill.
Every fighter has strengths and weakeness and will struggle against certain types of opponents.
Well said Bilbo :cool: Completely agree.
So what happens if he knocks his next few opponents out the same way, and his opponents dont get a chance to land one on him due to greater boxing skills he is now gaining under Roach. Will he still be slated or questioned :confused: Floyd is still questioned over his chin, problem being very few have actually landed hard on his whiskers so does that mean he doesnt have a chin ?
Give him credit for what he is doing, you can only beat whats put in front of you. No-one thought ( including myself ) he would beat MAB, but the record books show he did.
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Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
Yes the guy he beat was not the best and I dont think anybody is trying to say he is.
What imppressed most people IMO is the way Khan looked so devestating and made it look so easy.
Khan IMO was told by Roach to be agressive and to try and force the action which he did.
If Khan was not as confident with his abilitys and with his trainner he could have gone safty first and look to break Salita down before going for the stoppage.
They only way Khan was going to look good and get credit frrom this fight was if he scored a devestating KO.
Which he did.;D
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Dark Lord Al
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Rantcatrat
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Why not? He's still shown excellent boxing skills.
Would you refuse to give Ivan Calderon credit until he knocks someone out for the count, or refuse to give Floyd Maywether credit until he beats someone with as much natural skill as him?
Even if Khan in the future does fall once more to a big puncher it does not discredit his other wins or mean he deserves no credit for his speed, power and skill.
Every fighter has strengths and weakeness and will struggle against certain types of opponents.
Not every fighter is perfect. Obviously.
Khan has looked good thus far and I thought he handled himself with class in and outside the ring this last Saturday. I guess to me he is just a bit overated on this board.
He is only 22 and he has the time to develop a style which emphasizes defense and minimizes his exposure to big punches. He doesn't need to rush into anything.
However, not being able to handle punchers, isn't just an insignificant weakness, it's a downfall.
I'd like to see him in with Maidana, Urango, or Campbell, but maybe he isn't ready for those tests yet. It wouldn't be a big deal, like I said, he is only 22.
This sums up how legitimate Khan's claim to being WORLD CHAMPION , he is WBA champion but not ready for certain contenders ? lol bullshit politics.
For me he needs to fight a legit world class puncher and showcase his skills , and win , someone like Maidana , then he will show his true colours.Its easy to look improved against lesser fighters.
I agree with this red stuff above.
Khan is supposedly a champion now and in the big league. But I haven't seen him beat a top fighter yet (and don't even go near the Barrera fight!). Khan needs to face someone decent, but I don't think he will. We will see Warren milk him as long as possible before the inevitable throw into the wolves. Might be a good while yet.
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Rantcatrat
Not every fighter is perfect. Obviously.
Khan has looked good thus far and I thought he handled himself with class in and outside the ring this last Saturday. I guess to me he is just a bit overated on this board.
He is only 22 and he has the time to develop a style which emphasizes defense and minimizes his exposure to big punches. He doesn't need to rush into anything.
However, not being able to handle punchers, isn't just an insignificant weakness, it's a downfall.
I'd like to see him in with Maidana, Urango, or Campbell, but maybe he isn't ready for those tests yet. It wouldn't be a big deal, like I said, he is only 22.
This sums up how legitimate Khan's claim to being WORLD CHAMPION , he is WBA champion but not ready for certain contenders ? lol bullshit politics.
For me he needs to fight a legit world class puncher and showcase his skills , and win , someone like Maidana , then he will show his true colours.Its easy to look improved against lesser fighters.
I agree with this red stuff above.
Khan is supposedly a champion now and in the big league. But I haven't seen him beat a top fighter yet (and don't even go near the Barrera fight!). Khan needs to face someone decent, but I don't think he will. We will see Warren milk him as long as possible before the inevitable throw into the wolves. Might be a good while yet.
The fault is with the alphabet "world" titles not with Khan. Loads of "world" champions are not the top of their division.
Recently some Barrera fans were happy to see he has a chance of becoming "world" champion again by fighting Paulus Moses for his WBA title. There are 7 fighters ranked above the "world" champ according to The Ring, and Saddo ratings doesn't even have him listed ;)
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This sums up how legitimate Khan's claim to being WORLD CHAMPION , he is WBA champion but not ready for certain contenders ? lol bullshit politics.
For me he needs to fight a legit world class puncher and showcase his skills , and win , someone like Maidana , then he will show his true colours.Its easy to look improved against lesser fighters.
I agree with this red stuff above.
Khan is supposedly a champion now and in the big league. But I haven't seen him beat a top fighter yet (and don't even go near the Barrera fight!). Khan needs to face someone decent, but I don't think he will. We will see Warren milk him as long as possible before the inevitable throw into the wolves. Might be a good while yet.
The fault is with the alphabet "world" titles not with Khan. Loads of "world" champions are not the top of their division.
Recently some Barrera fans were happy to see he has a chance of becoming "world" champion again by fighting Paulus Moses for his WBA title. There are 7 fighters ranked above the "world" champ according to The Ring, and Saddo ratings doesn't even have him listed ;)
I have abstained from too much of that talk regarding Barrera, so will stay quiet on that.
As for Khan...Well, I do partly blame him. He gets hated because he fights nobody good. We can blame the belts, or we can blame Warren or we can blame Khan. Khan is the man signing the contracts so he is the man I will gun for.
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I agree with this red stuff above.
Khan is supposedly a champion now and in the big league. But I haven't seen him beat a top fighter yet (and don't even go near the Barrera fight!). Khan needs to face someone decent, but I don't think he will. We will see Warren milk him as long as possible before the inevitable throw into the wolves. Might be a good while yet.
The fault is with the alphabet "world" titles not with Khan. Loads of "world" champions are not the top of their division.
Recently some Barrera fans were happy to see he has a chance of becoming "world" champion again by fighting Paulus Moses for his WBA title. There are 7 fighters ranked above the "world" champ according to The Ring, and Saddo ratings doesn't even have him listed ;)
I have abstained from too much of that talk regarding Barrera, so will stay quiet on that.
As for Khan...Well, I do partly blame him. He gets hated because he fights nobody good. We can blame the belts, or we can blame Warren or we can blame Khan. Khan is the man signing the contracts so he is the man I will gun for.
Hold up... ;D
In July he won the "world" title.
In December he defended it against his no.1 rated mandatory contender.
What has he done wrong there?
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The fault is with the alphabet "world" titles not with Khan. Loads of "world" champions are not the top of their division.
Recently some Barrera fans were happy to see he has a chance of becoming "world" champion again by fighting Paulus Moses for his WBA title. There are 7 fighters ranked above the "world" champ according to The Ring, and Saddo ratings doesn't even have him listed ;)
I have abstained from too much of that talk regarding Barrera, so will stay quiet on that.
As for Khan...Well, I do partly blame him. He gets hated because he fights nobody good. We can blame the belts, or we can blame Warren or we can blame Khan. Khan is the man signing the contracts so he is the man I will gun for.
Hold up... ;D
In July he won the "world" title.
In December he defended it against his no.1 rated mandatory contender.
What has he done wrong there?
As i said this is not a dig at Khan , all im saying is he wont have proved anything to me , until he beats a world class puncher , until then he will always have a glass jaw , and the only puncher he has fought knocked him out.
Khan is skillful , and a nice kid , but has proved nothing we didnt already know, he has improved but lets see him fight a puncher next then ? that ok with you Fenster ?
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I have abstained from too much of that talk regarding Barrera, so will stay quiet on that.
As for Khan...Well, I do partly blame him. He gets hated because he fights nobody good. We can blame the belts, or we can blame Warren or we can blame Khan. Khan is the man signing the contracts so he is the man I will gun for.
Hold up... ;D
In July he won the "world" title.
In December he defended it against his no.1 rated mandatory contender.
What has he done wrong there?
As i said this is not a dig at Khan , all im saying is he wont have proved anything to me , until he beats a world class puncher , until then he will always have a glass jaw , and the only puncher he has fought knocked him out.
Khan is skillful , and a nice kid , but has proved nothing we didnt already know, he has improved but lets see him fight a puncher next then ? that ok with you Fenster ?
Whether he beats a puncher or not he'll always have a glass jaw. I know what you're saying though ;)
You can't blame Khan for being "world" champion though. He beat the guy that beat Maidana. ;)
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Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
I read an article recently with a number of quotes from Freddie.
Freddie stated the first thing he worked on was reducing Kahns muscle mass, thus increasing his flexibilty and speed
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On another part of the aftermath , did anyone else notice the Naseem Hamed shaped BLIMP that Khan and his handlers had with them in the ring after the fight ?
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He wore Green instead of a silver or gold sequin suit;D
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Lets see Khan fight Tim Bradley , and then we can see how improved he is.
Bradley is not the biggest puncher out there , but has improved since the Witter fight , and he has a pretty solid chin. Lets see Khan outbox Bradley and show us something we dont know about him .
What say you guys ?
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Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
I'm all for Khan to be put in with someone like Bradley and I think he'll do a lot better than people think.
The more people hate on Khan then more I want him to do well. He's a little green when it comes to the media he's definitely confident in himself which people mistake as arrogance.
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Re: What did you see different with Khan ?
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I have abstained from too much of that talk regarding Barrera, so will stay quiet on that.
As for Khan...Well, I do partly blame him. He gets hated because he fights nobody good. We can blame the belts, or we can blame Warren or we can blame Khan. Khan is the man signing the contracts so he is the man I will gun for.
Hold up... ;D
In July he won the "world" title.
In December he defended it against his no.1 rated mandatory contender.
What has he done wrong there?
As i said this is not a dig at Khan , all im saying is he wont have proved anything to me , until he beats a world class puncher , until then he will always have a glass jaw , and the only puncher he has fought knocked him out.
Khan is skillful , and a nice kid , but has proved nothing we didnt already know, he has improved but lets see him fight a puncher next then ? that ok with you Fenster ?
Which world class puncher would you like to see him face at 140?
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Hold up... ;D
In July he won the "world" title.
In December he defended it against his no.1 rated mandatory contender.
What has he done wrong there?
As i said this is not a dig at Khan , all im saying is he wont have proved anything to me , until he beats a world class puncher , until then he will always have a glass jaw , and the only puncher he has fought knocked him out.
Khan is skillful , and a nice kid , but has proved nothing we didnt already know, he has improved but lets see him fight a puncher next then ? that ok with you Fenster ?
Which world class puncher would you like to see him face at 140?
Well Randall Bailey hits pretty hard, if Amir Khan could beat him he would get alot of credit. Or revenging the Breidis Prescott loss, or Marcos Rene Maidana, Victor Ortiz, Juan Urango, they all have good power.