What did you see different with Khan ?

[ICB]

How the hell can anyone tell what improvements they've seen, when he hasn't even been in with an elite fighter who's tested him ? i haven't seen any real improvements except his defense is better.

But then again he did get clocked quite a few times vs Andriy Kotelnik late on, and if he would of been puncher then who knows ?

Amir Khan has always had the talent i don't see any real difference there, except he isn't as wild and his defense is better which is good.

But i think its way too early to say anything, until he fights someone who tests him. Its easy to look improved against a one eyed undersized MAB, crap Otis Fagan, mediocre Andriy Kotelnik, weak chinned Dmitriy Salita.

We will see his dramatic improvements if there is any, against the fighters i've mentioned in the other topics.

But if there is anyone to improve Amir Khan, then its Freddie Roach. Look at Manny Pacquiao he used to be a one dimensional fighter.

Now he has a right hand, much improved boxing skills. Much better use of using angles, and he can box more smartly if he chooses, aswell as much better counter punching.

[ono]

How the hell can anyone tell what improvements they've seen, when he hasn't even been in with an elite fighter who's tested him ? i haven't seen any real improvements except his defense is better.

But then again he did get clocked quite a few times vs Andriy Kotelnik late on, and if he would of been puncher then who knows ?

Amir Khan has always had the talent i don't see any real difference there, except he isn't as wild and his defense is better which is good.

But i think its way too early to say anything, until he fights someone who tests him. Its easy to look improved against a one eyed undersized MAB, crap Otis Fagan, mediocre Andriy Kotelnik, weak chinned Dmitriy Salita.

We will see his dramatic improvements if there is any, against the fighters i've mentioned in the other topics.

But if there is anyone to improve Amir Khan, then its Freddie Roach. Look at Manny Pacquiao he used to be a one dimensional fighter.

Now he has a right hand, much improved boxing skills. Much better use of using angles, and he can box more smartly if he chooses, aswell as much better counter punching.

Thing is, I had to listen to Ian Darke telling me how good Gavin Rees' chin (on prizefight)is yet weak punching Kotelnik had him on queer street. Don't forget Khan moved up to 140 so although Kotelnik might not be a big puncher at 140, he's accurate and powerful enough to hurt someone who's used to facing under-sized 135lbers. Khan's chin looked ok. Maybe he has a bit of Cotto syndrome. Maybe 135 was a struggle....considering he was down to 1% bodyfat

[MGG]

Not much, after knocking the senses out of his opponent it was nothing more than target practice.

[Kirkland Laing]

He's definitely a lot better since he went to Roach but you didn't exactly get much chance to judge on Saturday. He's still got the same chin though, if a lightweight can spark him then somebody at 140 is eventually going to do it.

[Rantcatrat]

Will someone explain to me whether Khan must (as in it is his mandatory defense) defend the title against Maidana in his next fight? I'm just not ready to give Khan credit until he handles a puncher. I can just see Khan taking on Paulie if Paulie wins this weekend, which would make it three fights in a row against fighters who don't have much punching power. No one is doubting Khan's boxing ability and he has KO power, but he lacks a chin - qualities that are much like Haye really.

[Pugilistic]

I do think his defense has improved over the past 4 fights and he seems to pace himself better and his footwork seems better also.

I already knew Khan had pop though, He has good power when he sits down on his punches.

[Kev]

Will someone explain to me whether Khan must (as in it is his mandatory defense) defend the title against Maidana in his next fight? I'm just not ready to give Khan credit until he handles a puncher. I can just see Khan taking on Paulie if Paulie wins this weekend, which would make it three fights in a row against fighters who don't have much punching power. No one is doubting Khan's boxing ability and he has KO power, but he lacks a chin - qualities that are much like Haye really.

Why not? He's still shown excellent boxing skills.

Would you refuse to give Ivan Calderon credit until he knocks someone out for the count, or refuse to give Floyd Maywether credit until he beats someone with as much natural skill as him?

Even if Khan in the future does fall once more to a big puncher it does not discredit his other wins or mean he deserves no credit for his speed, power and skill.

Every fighter has strengths and weakeness and will struggle against certain types of opponents.

[Rantcatrat]

Will someone explain to me whether Khan must (as in it is his mandatory defense) defend the title against Maidana in his next fight? I'm just not ready to give Khan credit until he handles a puncher. I can just see Khan taking on Paulie if Paulie wins this weekend, which would make it three fights in a row against fighters who don't have much punching power. No one is doubting Khan's boxing ability and he has KO power, but he lacks a chin - qualities that are much like Haye really.

Why not? He's still shown excellent boxing skills.

Would you refuse to give Ivan Calderon credit until he knocks someone out for the count, or refuse to give Floyd Maywether credit until he beats someone with as much natural skill as him?

Even if Khan in the future does fall once more to a big puncher it does not discredit his other wins or mean he deserves no credit for his speed, power and skill.

Every fighter has strengths and weakeness and will struggle against certain types of opponents.

Not every fighter is perfect. Obviously.

Khan has looked good thus far and I thought he handled himself with class in and outside the ring this last Saturday. I guess to me he is just a bit overated on this board.

He is only 22 and he has the time to develop a style which emphasizes defense and minimizes his exposure to big punches. He doesn't need to rush into anything.

However, not being able to handle punchers, isn't just an insignificant weakness, it's a downfall.

I'd like to see him in with Maidana, Urango, or Campbell, but maybe he isn't ready for those tests yet. It wouldn't be a big deal, like I said, he is only 22.

[Master]

You cannot tell after one fight and a one round blow out but since his defeat he has improved, tucked his chin, can be disciplined and getting more confident. Speed was always there and experience he will get in time.

[Kev]

Will someone explain to me whether Khan must (as in it is his mandatory defense) defend the title against Maidana in his next fight? I'm just not ready to give Khan credit until he handles a puncher. I can just see Khan taking on Paulie if Paulie wins this weekend, which would make it three fights in a row against fighters who don't have much punching power. No one is doubting Khan's boxing ability and he has KO power, but he lacks a chin - qualities that are much like Haye really.

Why not? He's still shown excellent boxing skills.

Would you refuse to give Ivan Calderon credit until he knocks someone out for the count, or refuse to give Floyd Maywether credit until he beats someone with as much natural skill as him?

Even if Khan in the future does fall once more to a big puncher it does not discredit his other wins or mean he deserves no credit for his speed, power and skill.

Every fighter has strengths and weakeness and will struggle against certain types of opponents.

Not every fighter is perfect. Obviously.

Khan has looked good thus far and I thought he handled himself with class in and outside the ring this last Saturday. I guess to me he is just a bit overated on this board.

He is only 22 and he has the time to develop a style which emphasizes defense and minimizes his exposure to big punches. He doesn't need to rush into anything.

However, not being able to handle punchers, isn't just an insignificant weakness, it's a downfall.

I'd like to see him in with Maidana, Urango, or Campbell, but maybe he isn't ready for those tests yet. It wouldn't be a big deal, like I said, he is only 22.

Seriously? By whom? It seems the vast majority of fightfans regard him as a joke, the majority dislike him, some plain hate, most think he's completely chinny and will be exposed when he moves up to world class.

I actually think Khan is seriously underated by most.

I rate him highly of course, but I don't think I overrate him at all. I believe he has the potential to be great, his chin and vulnerability is a factor and he could implode at any moment in a fight, but he's improving massively and I think has as good a shot as any young prospect of making it to the very top.

I think that's an accurate assessment not an over estimation, and I probably am Amir's most vocal fan on these boards.

I have never heard a single person really go overboard on Amir's potential on this board, or on tv. I think he gets a lot of attention certainly, but I don't think anybody overates him, not even Duke McKenzie and Barry McGuigan.

They just tell us he's a terrific prospect with great potentional, which he is.

I think people confuse attention with overrating.

[Dark Lord Al]

Will someone explain to me whether Khan must (as in it is his mandatory defense) defend the title against Maidana in his next fight? I'm just not ready to give Khan credit until he handles a puncher. I can just see Khan taking on Paulie if Paulie wins this weekend, which would make it three fights in a row against fighters who don't have much punching power. No one is doubting Khan's boxing ability and he has KO power, but he lacks a chin - qualities that are much like Haye really.

Why not? He's still shown excellent boxing skills.

Would you refuse to give Ivan Calderon credit until he knocks someone out for the count, or refuse to give Floyd Maywether credit until he beats someone with as much natural skill as him?

Even if Khan in the future does fall once more to a big puncher it does not discredit his other wins or mean he deserves no credit for his speed, power and skill.

Every fighter has strengths and weakeness and will struggle against certain types of opponents.

Not every fighter is perfect. Obviously.

Khan has looked good thus far and I thought he handled himself with class in and outside the ring this last Saturday. I guess to me he is just a bit overated on this board.

He is only 22 and he has the time to develop a style which emphasizes defense and minimizes his exposure to big punches. He doesn't need to rush into anything.

However, not being able to handle punchers, isn't just an insignificant weakness, it's a downfall.

I'd like to see him in with Maidana, Urango, or Campbell, but maybe he isn't ready for those tests yet. It wouldn't be a big deal, like I said, he is only 22.

This sums up how legitimate Khan's claim to being WORLD CHAMPION , he is WBA champion but not ready for certain contenders ? lol bullshit politics.
For me he needs to fight a legit world class puncher and showcase his skills , and win , someone like Maidana , then he will show his true colours.Its easy to look improved against lesser fighters.

[Mattyhitman]

Will someone explain to me whether Khan must (as in it is his mandatory defense) defend the title against Maidana in his next fight? I'm just not ready to give Khan credit until he handles a puncher. I can just see Khan taking on Paulie if Paulie wins this weekend, which would make it three fights in a row against fighters who don't have much punching power. No one is doubting Khan's boxing ability and he has KO power, but he lacks a chin - qualities that are much like Haye really.

Why not? He's still shown excellent boxing skills.

Would you refuse to give Ivan Calderon credit until he knocks someone out for the count, or refuse to give Floyd Maywether credit until he beats someone with as much natural skill as him?

Even if Khan in the future does fall once more to a big puncher it does not discredit his other wins or mean he deserves no credit for his speed, power and skill.

Every fighter has strengths and weakeness and will struggle against certain types of opponents.

Well said Bilbo Completely agree.

So what happens if he knocks his next few opponents out the same way, and his opponents dont get a chance to land one on him due to greater boxing skills he is now gaining under Roach. Will he still be slated or questioned Floyd is still questioned over his chin, problem being very few have actually landed hard on his whiskers so does that mean he doesnt have a chin ?

Give him credit for what he is doing, you can only beat whats put in front of you. No-one thought ( including myself ) he would beat MAB, but the record books show he did.

[porkypara]

Yes the guy he beat was not the best and I dont think anybody is trying to say he is.

What imppressed most people IMO is the way Khan looked so devestating and made it look so easy.


Khan IMO was told by Roach to be agressive and to try and force the action which he did.


If Khan was not as confident with his abilitys and with his trainner he could have gone safty first and look to break Salita down before going for the stoppage.

They only way Khan was going to look good and get credit frrom this fight was if he scored a devestating KO.

Which he did.

[Tysonbruno]

He wore Green instead of a silver or gold sequin suit