Why does the majority think Froch is inferior to Abraham and Kessler?

It seems the majority sentiment has always been that Froch will lose handily to both Kessler and Abraham.

I guess this is because he was behind against Taylor until the knockout and becuase he looked slow and clumsly against Dirrell.

But to be fair to him he looked much better in his last fight than both Kessler and Abraham did in theirs.

The Froch Dirrell fight was one you could argue went either way, but you'd struggle to find a single round before the 10th that you could give Abraham against the same fighter.

As for Kessler, he lost damn near every minute of every round against Andre Ward, it was Lazy Calzahghe, Coralles Mayweather style royal pummeling of a so called champion fighter, he was humiliated.

Yet the belief persists that Froch is worse than both of them, and will likely get knocked out both times.

I'm going out on a limb here but I think he can beat both of them, and book his way into the final against Andre Ward, with the winner being probably p4p number 1 allowing for the retirement of the winner of any future Floyd Manny showdown.

It could happen guys, imagine that, Carl Froch p4p number 1.....:cool:

Not me I have him favourite in both, these sort of fighters won't beat Froch imo.

He seems to always just barely win. This gives the impression that he is beatable. However, you have to give him credit, he does always win.

He is a decent fighter that is all, looking at his fight with Abraham I dont see anyway in which he can win the only thing that seems to bother him is speed and Froch doesnt have that equally Kessler has the same issues with speed so he should be able to do on over Froch but I see it a defo win for Abraham!

Any fighter in this tournament that can stand up to Abraham's power will probably beat him, because he is only going for the KO, he doesn't care if he wins any rounds as long as he lands those shots to finish. As of now I am 50/50 on Abraham/Froch, I honestly don't hold either in a higher regard than the other at this point. Froch does have a great chin, Abraham does have great power so there it is it's a battle of chin vs. power to me. I don't think this will be as exciting as most are making it out to be, Abraham is gonna sit in his turtle shell as Froch tries everything he can to try and pull the guard down.

And now for more speculation............

As for Kessler, I feel Kessler is a far superior boxer over Froch and I would still pick him over Froch based on his fundamentals and foot movement. I think Ward would absolutely blow out Froch as well. But that's all just a guess.

Froch, skills are lacking on many levels. He is a fairly ordinary fighter but finds ways to win and should be applauded for that. His balance is horrible due to his foot placement, his handspeed is ordinary and his technique is lacking. He can punch which is what keeps fighters off him but he's just not that impressive. I would favor him over Abraham but not Kessler. Kessler will box his trunks off IMHO.

simple answer....

he`s british



the most hate for fighters on this forum tends to be reserved for the likes of calzaghe, hatton, haye, khan etc

Froch is clumsy,flat footed and is lacking in the boxing skills department. But he makes up for it with strength, stamina, and sheer dogidness. He looks like a strong fighter. Like one of them guys u underate until u get it the ring with him. He definately has something about him. I give him a shot vs Abraham or kessler. P4p number 1 not quite bilbo

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Well i do hate Joe Calzaghe, and im British hope this helps.

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Well i do hate Joe Calzaghe, and im British hope this helps.

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i hate calzaghe as much as i hate marmite and the gays

But if the guy was american he would be a p4p king right now, instead he is considered nothing more than an also ran

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Well i do hate Joe Calzaghe, and im British hope this helps.

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i hate calzaghe as much as i hate marmite and the gays

But if the guy was american he would be a p4p king right now, instead he is considered nothing more than an also ran

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Its because he was in a weak era and didn't take enough risks, and he contradicted himself constantly, like for example retiring on the RJJ win.

As for the others.

Ricky Hatton = Got no problem with him what so ever, he tried his best and lost to the two best P4P fighters of the modern era, no shame in that.

Amir Khan = I think he's over hyped and he sometimes, does talk out his ass. I just want to see him fight better fighters, i wouldn't say i dislike him i'd say more frustrated with him, but Paulie Malignaggi is an ok start.

David Haye = I think he's come along way, and i do like him as a fighter. And i hope he beats both Klitschko's, i for certain root for David Haye.

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he`s british



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prove it.

Any fighter with a poor defense will get all the smartass fans constantly predicting his demise.

If Kesser don't KO Froch then Arthur will. Fact.

I think it's because his weaknesses are much more obvious than the other fighters. I also think, perhaps because of his recent level of competition, that those weaknesses have been exposed by the type of fighters he has been in the ring with. He's a good offensive fighter with legitimate power, poor defense, and a very good chin. Nothing more or less IMO. He's one of the best fighters in a very good division and I think he should be commended for wanting to fight the best opponents available to him. I think Kessler will beat him, beause he's a shorter puncher and he'll be able to keep Froch on the outside. Abraham vs. Froch is a closer fight, I think because of Abraham's inactivity and his reliance on blocking punches that Froch has a very good chance of beating and stopping him. Dirrell would beat him again, Ward would outbox him, and Bute would annihilate him, but he's a very good fighter.

He still lost to Dirrell though :).

It has nothing to do with his nationality and I would urge anyone who thinks that is the case to off themselves before they have the opportunity to produce offspring. Myself, the gene pool, and all of humanity will be greatful for your sacrifice.

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On the other hand a lot of people would say that the Brits tend to get overhyped by their fans more than fighters from other countries.

Also guys like Mayweather, Hopkins, Tarver, Ruiz and both Klits get there fair share of hate as well. Saying he Brits get the most hate because they are British is absurd.

Froch is an old time lets get in and fight...No glitz no glam etc just fight...And he gets people to fall into his game BUT...Even when he is fighting his fight and his opp is fighting his fight he still seems to just get by...A fighter who gets an opp out of their game and into yours you should take command of the bout.........

I promise if Taylor did not gass he would have beat Froch...

As for him Vs Kessler I don't know Kessler is not the same fighter he used to be since the Calzaghe loss.....

AA was just overwhelmed by speed....Against Dirrell....I suspect he will have the same prob against Ward....

Froch is not too quick and he is not as strong as AA......I don't think Froch beats him...Though it will be and exciting but IMO dirty fight

The first time Froch fought what I'd call a known quantity at world level was the Taylor fight. And for the first few rounds of that Taylor completely outclassed Froch. If Taylor didn't have a stamina problem ( he didn't even try to take Froch out after he knocked him down, same as with Pavlik in their second fight) it would have been a twelve round boxing lesson. He looked to me in the early part of that fight like a British title level fighter given his big chance against a top American, not quite Lockett Pavlik but not far away.

Against Dirrell he was fighting a guy who was quite clearly shitting himself in the buildup and in the ring. If that fight was to happen again, especially in Detroit, I'd pick Dirrell to win. Whether it's because of the experience Dirrell got from fighting Froch or because he was fighting at home, and I'd suggest that this tournament so far shows there's a hell of an advantage to fighting at home, Dirrell was a different fighter against Abraham than he was against Froch. He was beating Abraham easily until he got knocked out.

As for Froch's future fights, I think if the home advantage thing continues and Kessler isn't completely shot mentally by losing to Ward then Kessler wins at a canter. He's not going to stand and fight with Froch and has the ability to just box his way to a points win. The Abraham fight is a different matter. Apparently it's going to be in Nottingham although there's just a small item on boxing scene to say that and no official confirmation. But if Abraham has to fight in Nottingham against a really hostile crowd he might not fancy it too much. I'm still going to go with Abraham though.

I think Froch as a top pound for pound guy is a little bit optimistic. He's a stong, tough fighter but he's useless against anybody with speed or real boxing ability. If he draws Ward eventually home or away he might as well not bother turning up.

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simple answer....

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Well i do hate Joe Calzaghe, and im British hope this helps.

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i hate calzaghe as much as i hate marmite and the gays

But if the guy was american he would be a p4p king right now, instead he is considered nothing more than an also ran

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Funny stuff. I can't stand marmite either.

With his current style, Froch is going to have to eat alot of leather to get to the late rounds against both of these fighters or any top 5 SMW and I have my doubts he can hold up. He was tough enough and strong enough to take everything some fringe (or even bottom 10) SMWs had and was able to wear them down but when you get to the top three or even top five things are night and day. You cant have the philosophy I will take three to give one...

If Froch can tighten up his defense and stop throwing telegraphed punches he would fair better....

I've grown to like Froch more in his recent fights. He will get in there with anyone and try and force the fight and you can't knock that. Froch is limited in terms of his skills, but you can't question his heart. Abraham has gone down a little in my estimation and that is because he simply doesn't do anything for half a fight and I don't think anything will change that. Kessler is a fighter that I always held in high regard, but likewise has gone down a little in my estimation. He should have done whatever to bust up that "son of god" ram, but didn't do his homework properly. Someone like Calzaghe would always find a way even if the opponent was cheating (Hopkins) but Kessler doesn't quite have that resilience. Froch probably does have that, but is lacking some of the fundamentals. Froch is alright and I hope he does well.

Someone pass Froch the salt for his leather sandwich.

Its a moot point. Ward wins it all.

I actually like Froch because although he may have limited skills, he at least tries to put on a good show and will fight any man out there. He may barely win against the top competition, but he gives it his all which earns my respect.

I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.

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I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.

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I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).

I don't think people think too less of him. Its just that he has those obvious flaws and he is too hittable. Against Abraham that probably won't bode well. I think Kessler is too technical for Froch and will split his wide open style all night. Froch does has tremendous heart and confidence. But thinking Froch isn't going to beat Abraham and/or Kessler isn't like saying anything bad. Those are a pair of great fighters who happened to match up well with Froch.

I personally dont rate Kessler at all

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I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.

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I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).

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I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me ;D

Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!

As passionate a Brit I am, I'm not sold on Froch at all, same as I'm not sold on Haye. Don't think either of them are on the level of Hatton or Calzaghe.

ICB

Your point about Calzaghe being in a weak division and not taking risks, also TOTALLY applies to B-Hop and RJJ

Abraham looked a lot worse against Dirrell then Frouch did

It is pointless comparing the fighters based on their most recent performances.

Kessler got whooped by Ward but Froch would probably suffer a similar fate. He's too slow to beat Ward imo.

Abraham got outboxed by Dirrell clearly. What was clear was Dirrell's confidence to stand in front of Abraham and box him. Against Froch he was happier to run than box, he learned from that fight and it showed. Dirrell should of won that Froch fight also.

Stylistically Froch is a good matchup for Kessler because he comes forward and isn't the best defensively. Kessler has shown in the past he can easily deal with that. I give Froch a good chance though because of his strength, rough tactics,etc.

I give Froch 0 chance against Abraham. Once Abraham starts unleashing his bursts, all Froch can do is take them and hope to be still standing after. Abraham is stopping Froch.

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I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.

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I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).

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I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me ;D

Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!

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Bute eats Froch up with superior handspeed and movement. Both things Froch has trouble dealing with. Fact. Nevermind he's a southie.

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It seems the majority sentiment has always been that Froch will lose handily to both Kessler and Abraham.

I guess this is because he was behind against Taylor until the knockout and becuase he looked slow and clumsly against Dirrell.

But to be fair to him he looked much better in his last fight than both Kessler and Abraham did in theirs.

The Froch Dirrell fight was one you could argue went either way, but you'd struggle to find a single round before the 10th that you could give Abraham against the same fighter.

As for Kessler, he lost damn near every minute of every round against Andre Ward, it was Lazy Calzahghe, Coralles Mayweather style royal pummeling of a so called champion fighter, he was humiliated.

Yet the belief persists that Froch is worse than both of them, and will likely get knocked out both times.

I'm going out on a limb here but I think he can beat both of them, and book his way into the final against Andre Ward, with the winner being probably p4p number 1 allowing for the retirement of the winner of any future Floyd Manny showdown.

It could happen guys, imagine that, Carl Froch p4p number 1.....:cool:

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Simply put, he doesn't not have the boxing skills that those two have. He screams mediocre. Jermain Taylor beat himself and Andre Dirrell is a pussy.

I think Arthur Abraham will have the easiest time with him.

With Kessler, it depends on who shows up. If Kessler is finished, than the fight will be something akin to the Froch v Dirrell fight; if Kessler's fire is truly renewed, then IMO Froch doesn't stand a chance.

Personally, I would love to see Kessler blow him out.

Either way, i can't wait to see the fights.

And BTW, relating Calzaghe v Kessler to Corralles v Mayweather is ridiculous on many levels...

Kessler lost to Calzaghe, but wasn't humiliated.

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I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.

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I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).

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I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me ;D

Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!

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I recall no sig bet, but I'm sure we can work something out if they ever meet. I'm not even a big fan of Bute, I just have a ton of respect for his abilities and I think a slick, fast, heavy-handed southpaw like Bute would be a lot of trouble for Froch.

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I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).

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I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me ;D

Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!

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I recall no sig bet, but I'm sure we can work something out if they ever meet. I'm not even a big fan of Bute, I just have a ton of respect for his abilities and I think a slick, fast, heavy-handed southpaw like Bute would be a lot of trouble for Froch.

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Yup, I just don't understand why people are dogging his rating and such. He has a huge amount of skill.

Sorry, Bilbo... But you'd lose this bet.

Bute's not getting dragged into a brawl. He's too smart for that. ...and when that doesn't happen Bute severely outboxes him.

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I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me ;D

Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!

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I recall no sig bet, but I'm sure we can work something out if they ever meet. I'm not even a big fan of Bute, I just have a ton of respect for his abilities and I think a slick, fast, heavy-handed southpaw like Bute would be a lot of trouble for Froch.

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Yup, I just don't understand why people are dogging his rating and such. He has a huge amount of skill.

Sorry, Bilbo... But you'd lose this bet.

Bute's not getting dragged into a brawl. He's too smart for that. ...and when that doesn't happen Bute severely outboxes him.

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I suppose I should qualify my opinion a little bit. I think Froch's pressure might give Bute a bit of trouble and if he can find a way to improve his defense I might give him a better chance of pulling off the upset. But if Bute fought the Froch of today, he would murder him with counter-punching and stop him somewhere in the middle rounds.

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I recall no sig bet, but I'm sure we can work something out if they ever meet. I'm not even a big fan of Bute, I just have a ton of respect for his abilities and I think a slick, fast, heavy-handed southpaw like Bute would be a lot of trouble for Froch.

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Yup, I just don't understand why people are dogging his rating and such. He has a huge amount of skill.

Sorry, Bilbo... But you'd lose this bet.

Bute's not getting dragged into a brawl. He's too smart for that. ...and when that doesn't happen Bute severely outboxes him.

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I suppose I should clarify my opinion a little bit. I think Froch's pressure might give Bute a bit of trouble and if he can find a way to improve his defense I might give him a better chance of pulling off the upset. But if Bute fought the Froch of today, he would murder him with counter-punching and stop him somewhere in the middle rounds.

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It seems the majority sentiment has always been that Froch will lose handily to both Kessler and Abraham.

I guess this is because he was behind against Taylor until the knockout and becuase he looked slow and clumsly against Dirrell.

But to be fair to him he looked much better in his last fight than both Kessler and Abraham did in theirs.

The Froch Dirrell fight was one you could argue went either way, but you'd struggle to find a single round before the 10th that you could give Abraham against the same fighter.

As for Kessler, he lost damn near every minute of every round against Andre Ward, it was Lazy Calzahghe, Coralles Mayweather style royal pummeling of a so called champion fighter, he was humiliated.

Yet the belief persists that Froch is worse than both of them, and will likely get knocked out both times.

I'm going out on a limb here but I think he can beat both of them, and book his way into the final against Andre Ward, with the winner being probably p4p number 1 allowing for the retirement of the winner of any future Floyd Manny showdown.

It could happen guys, imagine that, Carl Froch p4p number 1.....:cool:

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Simply put, he doesn't not have the boxing skills that those two have. He screams mediocre. Jermain Taylor beat himself and Andre Dirrell is a pussy.

I think Arthur Abraham will have the easiest time with him.

With Kessler, it depends on who shows up. If Kessler is finished, than the fight will be something akin to the Froch v Dirrell fight; if Kessler's fire is truly renewed, then IMO Froch doesn't stand a chance.

Personally, I would love to see Kessler blow him out.

Either way, i can't wait to see the fights.

And BTW, relating Calzaghe v Kessler to Corralles v Mayweather is ridiculous on many levels...

Kessler lost to Calzaghe, but wasn't humiliated .

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I didn't relate anything to Kessler's loss to Calzaghe, I said Calzaghe Lacy, Corrales Mayweather. Kessler got humiliated by Andre Ward the way Calzaghe humiliated Jeff Lacy.

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It seems the majority sentiment has always been that Froch will lose handily to both Kessler and Abraham.

I guess this is because he was behind against Taylor until the knockout and becuase he looked slow and clumsly against Dirrell.

But to be fair to him he looked much better in his last fight than both Kessler and Abraham did in theirs.

The Froch Dirrell fight was one you could argue went either way, but you'd struggle to find a single round before the 10th that you could give Abraham against the same fighter.

As for Kessler, he lost damn near every minute of every round against Andre Ward, it was Lazy Calzahghe, Coralles Mayweather style royal pummeling of a so called champion fighter, he was humiliated.

Yet the belief persists that Froch is worse than both of them, and will likely get knocked out both times.

I'm going out on a limb here but I think he can beat both of them, and book his way into the final against Andre Ward, with the winner being probably p4p number 1 allowing for the retirement of the winner of any future Floyd Manny showdown.

It could happen guys, imagine that, Carl Froch p4p number 1.....:cool:

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Simply put, he doesn't not have the boxing skills that those two have. He screams mediocre. Jermain Taylor beat himself and Andre Dirrell is a pussy.

I think Arthur Abraham will have the easiest time with him.

With Kessler, it depends on who shows up. If Kessler is finished, than the fight will be something akin to the Froch v Dirrell fight; if Kessler's fire is truly renewed, then IMO Froch doesn't stand a chance.

Personally, I would love to see Kessler blow him out.

Either way, i can't wait to see the fights.

And BTW, relating Calzaghe v Kessler to Corralles v Mayweather is ridiculous on many levels...

Kessler lost to Calzaghe, but wasn't humiliated .

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I didn't relate anything to Kessler's loss to Calzaghe, I said Calzaghe Lacy, Corrales Mayweather. Kessler got humiliated by Andre Ward the way Calzaghe humiliated Jeff Lacy.

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Got it--misinterpreted Lazy to Lacy. ...don't think Mayweather or Calzaghe needed 5 headbutts, or to punch while in the clench either.

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It seems the majority sentiment has always been that Froch will lose handily to both Kessler and Abraham.

I guess this is because he was behind against Taylor until the knockout and becuase he looked slow and clumsly against Dirrell.

But to be fair to him he looked much better in his last fight than both Kessler and Abraham did in theirs.

The Froch Dirrell fight was one you could argue went either way, but you'd struggle to find a single round before the 10th that you could give Abraham against the same fighter.

As for Kessler, he lost damn near every minute of every round against Andre Ward, it was Lazy Calzahghe, Coralles Mayweather style royal pummeling of a so called champion fighter, he was humiliated.

Yet the belief persists that Froch is worse than both of them, and will likely get knocked out both times.

I'm going out on a limb here but I think he can beat both of them, and book his way into the final against Andre Ward, with the winner being probably p4p number 1 allowing for the retirement of the winner of any future Floyd Manny showdown.

It could happen guys, imagine that, Carl Froch p4p number 1.....:cool:

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Simply put, he doesn't not have the boxing skills that those two have. He screams mediocre. Jermain Taylor beat himself and Andre Dirrell is a pussy.

I think Arthur Abraham will have the easiest time with him.

With Kessler, it depends on who shows up. If Kessler is finished, than the fight will be something akin to the Froch v Dirrell fight; if Kessler's fire is truly renewed, then IMO Froch doesn't stand a chance.

Personally, I would love to see Kessler blow him out.

Either way, i can't wait to see the fights.

And BTW, relating Calzaghe v Kessler to Corralles v Mayweather is ridiculous on many levels...

Kessler lost to Calzaghe, but wasn't humiliated .

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I didn't relate anything to Kessler's loss to Calzaghe, I said Calzaghe Lacy, Corrales Mayweather. Kessler got humiliated by Andre Ward the way Calzaghe humiliated Jeff Lacy.

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It was a clear win to Ward but hadly a complete annihilation like Calzaghe Lacy, or Mayweather Corrales. Kess did win some rounds. I'd put it more on a par with a Mayweather v Hatton fight.