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    Default Re: Why does the majority think Froch is inferior to Abraham and Kessler?

    I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.
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    Default Re: Why does the majority think Froch is inferior to Abraham and Kessler?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
    I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.
    I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

    Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).
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    Default Re: Why does the majority think Froch is inferior to Abraham and Kessler?

    I don't think people think too less of him. Its just that he has those obvious flaws and he is too hittable. Against Abraham that probably won't bode well. I think Kessler is too technical for Froch and will split his wide open style all night. Froch does has tremendous heart and confidence. But thinking Froch isn't going to beat Abraham and/or Kessler isn't like saying anything bad. Those are a pair of great fighters who happened to match up well with Froch.

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    Default Re: Why does the majority think Froch is inferior to Abraham and Kessler?

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
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    I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.
    I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

    Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).
    I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

    Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

    Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me

    Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!

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    Default Re: Why does the majority think Froch is inferior to Abraham and Kessler?

    As passionate a Brit I am, I'm not sold on Froch at all, same as I'm not sold on Haye. Don't think either of them are on the level of Hatton or Calzaghe.

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    Default Re: Why does the majority think Froch is inferior to Abraham and Kessler?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.
    I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

    Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).
    I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

    Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

    Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me

    Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!

    Bute eats Froch up with superior handspeed and movement. Both things Froch has trouble dealing with. Fact. Nevermind he's a southie.
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    Default Re: Why does the majority think Froch is inferior to Abraham and Kessler?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    I don't dislike the guy but it's hard to really judge how good froch is. He's fought absolutly no one. And damn near lost to direll on a bad night while abraham some say was coming back on him on a good one. Effort and entertaining is all fine and dandy but that not what they judges score rounds on. I say it's still up in the air when it comes to this guy.
    I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

    Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).
    I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

    Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

    Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me

    Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!
    I recall no sig bet, but I'm sure we can work something out if they ever meet. I'm not even a big fan of Bute, I just have a ton of respect for his abilities and I think a slick, fast, heavy-handed southpaw like Bute would be a lot of trouble for Froch.

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    Default Re: Why does the majority think Froch is inferior to Abraham and Kessler?

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    I don't agree with that. His resume is as good as anyone's in the tourny, bar Taylor and Kessler.

    Pascal, Taylor, and Dirrell are all good fighters and Froch beat every one of them (even if Dirrell did get robbed).
    I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

    Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

    Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me

    Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!
    I recall no sig bet, but I'm sure we can work something out if they ever meet. I'm not even a big fan of Bute, I just have a ton of respect for his abilities and I think a slick, fast, heavy-handed southpaw like Bute would be a lot of trouble for Froch.
    Yup, I just don't understand why people are dogging his rating and such. He has a huge amount of skill.

    Sorry, Bilbo... But you'd lose this bet.

    Bute's not getting dragged into a brawl. He's too smart for that. ...and when that doesn't happen Bute severely outboxes him.
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    Default Re: Why does the majority think Froch is inferior to Abraham and Kessler?

    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
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    I'd say Froch has a better resume than Kessler, Kessler has beaten Andrade and Mundine, both years ago. He hasn't won a significant fight in about 3 years.

    Taylor has Hopkins on his record which probably tops anything Froch has done, but not a whole lot else.

    Oh and you saying Bute will annihilate Froch has really irritated me

    Froch will destroy Bute if they ever meet, the sig bet is most definitely on!
    I recall no sig bet, but I'm sure we can work something out if they ever meet. I'm not even a big fan of Bute, I just have a ton of respect for his abilities and I think a slick, fast, heavy-handed southpaw like Bute would be a lot of trouble for Froch.
    Yup, I just don't understand why people are dogging his rating and such. He has a huge amount of skill.

    Sorry, Bilbo... But you'd lose this bet.

    Bute's not getting dragged into a brawl. He's too smart for that. ...and when that doesn't happen Bute severely outboxes him.
    I suppose I should qualify my opinion a little bit. I think Froch's pressure might give Bute a bit of trouble and if he can find a way to improve his defense I might give him a better chance of pulling off the upset. But if Bute fought the Froch of today, he would murder him with counter-punching and stop him somewhere in the middle rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
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    I recall no sig bet, but I'm sure we can work something out if they ever meet. I'm not even a big fan of Bute, I just have a ton of respect for his abilities and I think a slick, fast, heavy-handed southpaw like Bute would be a lot of trouble for Froch.
    Yup, I just don't understand why people are dogging his rating and such. He has a huge amount of skill.

    Sorry, Bilbo... But you'd lose this bet.

    Bute's not getting dragged into a brawl. He's too smart for that. ...and when that doesn't happen Bute severely outboxes him.
    I suppose I should clarify my opinion a little bit. I think Froch's pressure might give Bute a bit of trouble and if he can find a way to improve his defense I might give him a better chance of pulling off the upset. But if Bute fought the Froch of today, he would murder him with counter-punching and stop him somewhere in the middle rounds.
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