Adama is making a right nuisance of himself here. He hasn't got a lot to keep Golovkin off him but he's hanging in and somehow managed to damage Golovkins nose.
Now that I've said that of course he'll get flattened.
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Adama is making a right nuisance of himself here. He hasn't got a lot to keep Golovkin off him but he's hanging in and somehow managed to damage Golovkins nose.
Now that I've said that of course he'll get flattened.
Cracking round that. Adama definitely hurt Golovkin there with the hook to the body and right hand, Golovkin was backing off. Just like that though GGG decides its time to put the foot down and Adama looks vulnerable.
Going off this fight Golovkin is well over rated.
He looks a bit clueless when someone has a go and pushes him back. Id say even Chavez Jr could beat him. He hasnt got a good workrate either. Chavez is big and strong and has a decent chin. He can also punch.
I don't think I quite put the skids under Adama's effort, it was pretty inevitable. Gutsy effort from the fella. Golovkin is a nasty fucker.
Definitely overrated and ive been thinking like this for awhile. I bet he can't fight going backwards. He's moves straight forward and straight back without angles.. He's pretty much a one dimensional fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Chavez would fuck him up..
Funny the way some people view boxing. I saw a fighter in cruise control that, everytime he went through the gears, made a tough fighter that's never been stopped look a doddle.
The guy has great footwork. He didn't mix in enough body work in that fight for my taste, but it seems he really didn't need to. I think Fenster nailed it - it seemed like he fought that fight mostly in second gear and any time he cranked it up, he hurt Adama.
Your spot on there bud, GGG boxed well within himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Golovkin could have got that done without breaking sweat but looked like he was happy to plough into him and bash him up, which he did. Adama was tough and fancied a go occasionally so had a moment or twos success. I don't think too much can be read from it.
GGG would beat Junior, he is the best at the weight.
While you are both sat in the same boat it might be worth plugging the massive whole in it before you end up having to swim ashore.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaDefinitely overrated and ive been thinking like this for awhile. I bet he can't fight going backwards. He's moves straight forward and straight back without angles.. He's pretty much a one dimensional fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Chavez would fuck him up..
Gennady Golovkin Wears Down Adama, TKO in Seven - Boxing News
Sounds like a pretty typical GGG performance to me, although he could have closed the show earlier and perhaps gotten hit less.
He belongs at middleweight not super middle and he will continue to win.
HE BELONGS...IN A MUSUEM!!!
I remember everyone praising Abraham.
Can't agree with either if you. Yes Golovkin looked poor in parts, mainly in the 4th or 5th after being completely dominant. Stevens hit him with his best and he didn't budge. He does the subtle things so well that Ross doesn't understand. His footwork is one of the best I have ever seen. He cuts the ring of so well. Guys can't keep him off them. His jab is excellent and is a tool he has in reserve if he ever needs it. His work rate? What are u talking about. He doesn't waste punches. He uses them so effectively. Martinez is the only guy at Middleweight who could give GGG a challenging fightQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaDefinitely overrated and ive been thinking like this for awhile. I bet he can't fight going backwards. He's moves straight forward and straight back without angles.. He's pretty much a one dimensional fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Chavez would fuck him up..
Did you gentlemen watch a stream or was it on tv. I hope to be able to watch a replay sometime soon
Download it from simbros. Will prob be up by now. If not it will be tomorrowQuote:
Originally Posted by walrus
My point is, who is he beating? The guy he just fought had 3 lossesQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeCan't agree with either if you. Yes Golovkin looked poor in parts, mainly in the 4th or 5th after being completely dominant. Stevens hit him with his best and he didn't budge. He does the subtle things so well that Ross doesn't understand. His footwork is one of the best I have ever seen. He cuts the ring of so well. Guys can't keep him off them. His jab is excellent and is a tool he has in reserve if he ever needs it. His work rate? What are u talking about. He doesn't waste punches. He uses them so effectively. Martinez is the only guy at Middleweight who could give GGG a challenging fightQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaDefinitely overrated and ive been thinking like this for awhile. I bet he can't fight going backwards. He's moves straight forward and straight back without angles.. He's pretty much a one dimensional fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Chavez would fuck him up..
As soon as Adamu put any kind of pressure on him, he stopped working and walked straight backwards. Just like Abraham and sort of like Pavlik (more with movement with Pavlik).
When Adamu did throw he caught Golovkin easy.
Barry jones summed it up in the studio when he said to the untrained eye Golovkin looked beatable because of patience but his technique was faultlessQuote:
Originally Posted by rossMy point is, who is he beating? The guy he just fought had 3 lossesQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeCan't agree with either if you. Yes Golovkin looked poor in parts, mainly in the 4th or 5th after being completely dominant. Stevens hit him with his best and he didn't budge. He does the subtle things so well that Ross doesn't understand. His footwork is one of the best I have ever seen. He cuts the ring of so well. Guys can't keep him off them. His jab is excellent and is a tool he has in reserve if he ever needs it. His work rate? What are u talking about. He doesn't waste punches. He uses them so effectively. Martinez is the only guy at Middleweight who could give GGG a challenging fightQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaDefinitely overrated and ive been thinking like this for awhile. I bet he can't fight going backwards. He's moves straight forward and straight back without angles.. He's pretty much a one dimensional fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Chavez would fuck him up..
As soon as Adamu put any kind of pressure on him, he stopped working and walked straight backwards. Just like Abraham and sort of like Pavlik (more with movement with Pavlik).
When Adamu did throw he caught Golovkin easy.
Again talking shit. Makubu beat a guy tonight who was 20-0 with 20KOs. He was far worse competiion them Adama. Joyi lost to a guy with 13 losses. Juana lost his unbeaten rec to someone with 13 or so losses. Bika has 5 losses. Is he not a credible opponent?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMy point is, who is he beating? The guy he just fought had 3 lossesQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeCan't agree with either if you. Yes Golovkin looked poor in parts, mainly in the 4th or 5th after being completely dominant. Stevens hit him with his best and he didn't budge. He does the subtle things so well that Ross doesn't understand. His footwork is one of the best I have ever seen. He cuts the ring of so well. Guys can't keep him off them. His jab is excellent and is a tool he has in reserve if he ever needs it. His work rate? What are u talking about. He doesn't waste punches. He uses them so effectively. Martinez is the only guy at Middleweight who could give GGG a challenging fightQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaDefinitely overrated and ive been thinking like this for awhile. I bet he can't fight going backwards. He's moves straight forward and straight back without angles.. He's pretty much a one dimensional fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Chavez would fuck him up..
As soon as Adamu put any kind of pressure on him, he stopped working and walked straight backwards. Just like Abraham and sort of like Pavlik (more with movement with Pavlik).
When Adamu did throw he caught Golovkin easy.
Read Andy Lee wants GGG next. I'd prefer to see him fight Sturm.
All the same things have been said about Pavlik and Abraham and then when they were beat everyone revised their opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEBarry jones summed it up in the studio when he said to the untrained eye Golovkin looked beatable because of patience but his technique was faultlessQuote:
Originally Posted by rossMy point is, who is he beating? The guy he just fought had 3 lossesQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeCan't agree with either if you. Yes Golovkin looked poor in parts, mainly in the 4th or 5th after being completely dominant. Stevens hit him with his best and he didn't budge. He does the subtle things so well that Ross doesn't understand. His footwork is one of the best I have ever seen. He cuts the ring of so well. Guys can't keep him off them. His jab is excellent and is a tool he has in reserve if he ever needs it. His work rate? What are u talking about. He doesn't waste punches. He uses them so effectively. Martinez is the only guy at Middleweight who could give GGG a challenging fightQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaDefinitely overrated and ive been thinking like this for awhile. I bet he can't fight going backwards. He's moves straight forward and straight back without angles.. He's pretty much a one dimensional fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Chavez would fuck him up..
As soon as Adamu put any kind of pressure on him, he stopped working and walked straight backwards. Just like Abraham and sort of like Pavlik (more with movement with Pavlik).
When Adamu did throw he caught Golovkin easy.
LOL, gotta love boxing fans. One day Golovkin is the baddest man in boxing, one off night (maybe? I didn't see the fight) and all of a sudden he's overrated and JCC jr would fuck him up. Yeesh.
Iv never rated him. I saw his fight with the english lad (Macklin?) and the more iv read about him I wanted to see this fight and its like I was watching someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Hes strong but can be subdued like Abraham and Pavlik could. I dont think hes any bigger a puncher than those two.
I've taken the opposite road on GGG as most. Three years ago I thought he was going to be a phenomenon. Now that he's a phenomenon I think less of him. He's damn good don't get me wrong but he isn't what I thought he'd be. He still tips his punches something awful. I thought he would have outgrown that by now. If you're not particularly fast and you're not particularly busy tipping your punches is bad news. I now think his management wqs right when they said he's not ready. I'd be stunned if he landed even 15% of his punches against Ward. Best to fight a guy like Kirkland.
Decent beat down but as a massive favorite vs a "who" you really only open yourself up for scrutiny...sharp counters tend to follow. I think his methodical is catching up to him..it becomes practiced. He let this guy off more than once. He must have a challenge very soon and force a test and keep enough demand..intensity up.. to where hbo will actually see fit to air his fight. I really like him and see the skill..but you gotta keep going forward and not settle on going through the motions.
Just like Lucian Bute, GGG is getting too comfortable fighting these overmatched foes .. He doesn't know how it feels to be under adversity so as soon as he faces somebody who can hurt him back, dude might crumble...
I always thought QUillin was better and im even more convinced now.
GGG overrated man just like Lucas Mythese.... He's a glorified Arthur Abraham
OK so how come GGG breezed by Rosado when he was sick and Quillin struggled big time? How is GGGs competition worse then anyone a middleweight apart from Martinez? Stevns Mack and Rosado are as good as anyone Quillin has fought. Gary Hyde is trying to make GGG v Ndam. Ndam wont win a round against GGG. He won every round he didnt hit the deck in v Quillin. GGG fucks Quillin royally up. Would probably be Quillins last fight, if not at least his last meaningful fight. Stevens is one of the bigger punchers at Middleweight and he landed plenty against GGG. It didnt budge him.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
IMO only Martinez has a chance against GGG because he has a chance of out boxing him. Quillin has little to no chance because all he will be relying on is power.
Jesse Brinkley also took Stevens power fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeOK so how come GGG breezed by Rosado when he was sick and Quillin struggled big time? How is GGGs competition worse then anyone a middleweight apart from Martinez? Stevns Mack and Rosado are as good as anyone Quillin has fought. Gary Hyde is trying to make GGG v Ndam. Ndam wont win a round against GGG. He won every round he didnt hit the deck in v Quillin. GGG fucks Quillin royally up. Would probably be Quillins last fight, if not at least his last meaningful fight. Stevens is one of the bigger punchers at Middleweight and he landed plenty against GGG. It didnt budge him.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
IMO only Martinez has a chance against GGG because he has a chance of out boxing him. Quillin has little to no chance because all he will be relying on is power.
GGG is a excellent boxer, watch his footwork the way he cuts the ring off, he expends very little
energy, it's the small shuttle things he does that makes him so good.
If you want swashbuckling, GGG is not for you what he does he dismantles his opponents
with skill, and very hurtful punches.
He didnt look great last night against the level he was fighting. This is my complaint. Hes being made out to be something of a fantastic destroyer but the few times that Adamu went forward or tried throwing anything, he had Golovkin on the backfoot and caught him clean. Golovkin is strong and powerfull but I just see another Abraham that is getting by on his strength.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
It would be interesting to see him in with someone equally as strong because to me it looks like he could be outworked by anyone with the balls to push him back. Felix Sturm would be interesting.
I see your point but disagree. I dont think he can be backed up as easily as you think. I dont think Adama is as strong as Stevens and Stevens couldnt move him at all. He was in such control yesterday it looked like he took his foot off the gas in places. The only trouble with GGG for me is his head movement. He can get hit easily with overhands and would like to see him slip a big better. The guy who will beat him is a guy that moves very well and can land 2 or 3 punch combos and then move (in a way like what Paulie does) but only guy I can see doing that at middleweight is MartinezQuote:
Originally Posted by rossHe didnt look great last night against the level he was fighting. This is my complaint. Hes being made out to be something of a fantastic destroyer but the few times that Adamu went forward or tried throwing anything, he had Golovkin on the backfoot and caught him clean. Golovkin is strong and powerfull but I just see another Abraham that is getting by on his strength.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
It would be interesting to see him in with someone equally as strong because to me it looks like he could be outworked by anyone with the balls to push him back. Felix Sturm would be interesting.
We must remember when your good, everybody picks fault,! it's the way things are GGG has
done what's asked of him he WON,! and would give Sergio a bad beating, just like Abraham
were by!, no comparison what so ever.
This guy is the top man in the division, and I can't see any one at middle weight beating him,
everybody that's faced him, has taken a beating fact.;)
GGG was carrying him to get the work in. Was obvious from the 4th. Adama was a good fighter, but GGG judged that he would obviously stop Adama and nothing to fear was in that fight.
If you judge the 7th, GGG knew and the ref knew that GGG was just toying with Adama- at all cost. So, the ref just decided to end it as no one knew how bad the damage was/would be if Adama was carried to an 11th or 12th round kayo/tko or brutal stoppage.
Of course, Adama was no stiff and punched back. Obviously if you hit something or someone in a fight something has a chance of being bruised- but in no way, shape or form, was GGG in any real trouble.
This was just a paid sparring session.
I think GGG was on auto pilot last night and just cruised it.
His punches dont even look that powerful but are seriously damaging and he just makes everything look so easy.
The atmoshere amongst the 900 crowd was like a wake.
Must be weird fighting in that place compared to previous venues thats he's fought in.
Id like to see him step up to Super Middleweight at some stage and see how he gets on.
Brilliant fighter all round in my book and brilliant to watch, anyone with an 89-90% KO record deserves total respect. .. that really is an incredible stat.
GGG pissed it last night , first gear.
I don't understand the comparisons with GGG and Abraham and Pavlik. They fight completely different. Is it just that they are all punchers?
Can he box moving backward? Will his power translate above 160? Those are the questions I have about GGG.
At middleweight, I don't see anyone that can beat him unless Martinez looks like Martinez of old against Cotto. Agree?
Quillin is not the right style to beat him. He doesn't take a punch too well and he's not known for lateral movement. With regard to Quillin, I'm curious if Quillin is plotting a move from Golden Boy. They haven't done much to help his career. He's inactive. He hasn't fought any name opponents. He hasn't headlined a card even. I bet we'll see him leave Golden Boy in the next year and then maybe a Quillin-GGG fight (if they're still undefeated) can happen.
Hence the comparrions with Pavlik and Abraham.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Strong, powerfull, sensational when on the attack.
Then you have, bit one paced and looked a little lost on the few occasions he was pushed back. Just shut up shop and got caught. Didnt really try to counter. Just on the few occasions Adamu did come forward and throw punches, Golovkin let him. Very much like Abraham.
That Adamu last night wouldnt have lasted as long with Pavlik. Pavlik couldnt deal with movement but if someone did come forward he was there ready to fight with them, he didnt shut up shop like Golovkin did last night and Abraham used to.
Against anyone else other than the very top fighters, boxers like golovkin will be too strong for but those who can offer a bit of skill as well will make him look very one dimensional.
He is a good fighter but not what everyone would have you believe. If he was, Adamu wuldnt have lasted until the 7th.
GGG = Abraham. I love this one. It's like saying chalk = cheese.
At first I didn't like GGG and all the hype, I mean he was fighting Proska who I had never heard of.
He's grown on me though and he's fought better competition, namely Macklin. I believe he is very good, smart, athletic and powerful. A good chin too as evidenced by not being faced by Stevens' punches.
Boxing fans are like hipsters, they loved GGG when he was fairly unknown, but now they resent him because he has gained popularity and acclaim.