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Why is Floyd Mayweather able to attract so much attention?
I respect Floyd's skills, but I have no idea how or why he is able to garner so much attention. The man is a fraud making mugs of people year in year out. He chose Victor Ortiz as an opponent despite there being no demand for such a matchup. He fought Andre Berto despite there being no demand for such a matchup. He fought Guerrero despite there being no demand for such a matchup. He even fought Maidana despite there being no demand for such a match up (almost came unstuck). So, he has been picking and choosing fight in fight out. Let's not even get started on opponents like Baldomir or Mitchell or how he wouldn't even make the weight against a tiny Marquez.
If Mayweather came to fight and was interesting to watch you might somehow get it, but he is incredibly boring and does the bare minimum in every fight against opponents you knew he was going to beat anyway. How on earth is he popular? Do ordinary fans enjoy watching him fight? The opponents are handpicked and he makes you fall asleep every time. At least Pac gives something back by having a fight that anyone can watch, but Floyd wants the money, he wants to pick the opponent, and he wants to bore you. He's taking the mickey and I just cannot fathom how that is popular.
Then he comes along and picks a fight with a novice and the media is all over it, the forums are all over it and again I am scratching my head. There are much better fights than this, there are fights that actually have meaning and will very well entertain. Don't be suckered into this con mans games. He's laughing at you all.
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Re: Why is Floyd Mayweather able to attract so much attention?
Short answer: he became the bad guy and half the people want to see him lose and the other half like to root for the bad guy.
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It's a bit dumb if that is the case because he always handpicks his opponents. There is seldom any intrigue or mystery about the outcome. In the last decade you mostly get what you expect except in the case of Maidana who really came to fight. I mean the very idea of paying 100 dollars in the faint hope that a boxing financier gets sparked has to be a symptom of mental illness. Most proper fans seem to get that it is nonsense and many are boycotting it, but for an ordinary person who doesn't know a lot about boxing to be paying 100 dollars to see Mayweather fight a novice....well it somewhat suggests that the idiocracy is in full swing. It is disgusting what these two are earning as compared to the other brilliant fighters out there who do not cut corners or look for easy options.
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I think it's different in the UK his fights are pretty much always exclusively on Box nation so we don't have to pay any extra for him.
I've never had a problem staying up until 6am to watch him fight, would I pay £100 for the pleasure though, not a chance, would I pay £20 for the pleasure, chances are that I wouldn't unless it was actually a decent match up.
Will I pay for him and Conor? Nope
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Re: Why is Floyd Mayweather able to attract so much attention?
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Short answer: he became the bad guy and half the people want to see him lose and the other half like to root for the bad guy.
Yea you have the so called 'haters' who tune in hoping to see him lose, it goes the other way too with the fan boys who support a him through thick and thin. Race plays a part. Even tho Floyd is not an ideal role model; a brash, unbeaten, successful athlete who calls the shots appeals. There have been so many factors over the years that have kept is name relevant, WWE, DLH, Pac etc.
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Whole swathes of society worship the money, bling and bitches lifestyle, he's basically a star rapper/pop star except a boxer. And, as he's proven, if you repeat enough that you're THE BEST EVER eventually it will become accepted. Boxing/MMA/General News/Sport - all you ever hear is "Floyd is TBE, '0,' '0,' '0,' '0.'" Even boxing pundits that don't believe it parrot it for the media.
Ironically, 15-years-ago, if Castillo got the decision - as most people think he should have - this whole Floyd shtick doesn't even exist. Amazing. (not saying Floyd wouldn't have been a modern great, just not the current celebrity incarnation as we know it).
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I think it's different in the UK his fights are pretty much always exclusively on Box nation so we don't have to pay any extra for him.
I've never had a problem staying up until 6am to watch him fight, would I pay £100 for the pleasure though, not a chance, would I pay £20 for the pleasure, chances are that I wouldn't unless it was actually a decent match up.
Will I pay for him and Conor? Nope
Most of Floyd's recent fights have been on sky and box office platform not box nation. He is an overpriced woman beating illiterate lucky prick who could never carry a fight off his own back, he needs a big opponent to sell big because he is not exciting and has no punch power.
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I think it's different in the UK his fights are pretty much always exclusively on Box nation so we don't have to pay any extra for him.
I've never had a problem staying up until 6am to watch him fight, would I pay £100 for the pleasure though, not a chance, would I pay £20 for the pleasure, chances are that I wouldn't unless it was actually a decent match up.
Will I pay for him and Conor? Nope
Most of Floyd's recent fights have been on sky and box office platform not box nation. He is an overpriced woman beating illiterate lucky prick who could never carry a fight off his own back, he needs a big opponent to sell big because he is not exciting and has no punch power.
Come on @Master, "he needs a big opponent"? The reason for that is the he is a "big opponent"! You want it both ways, he needs a big opponent, yet he's a cherry picker!
And how many of these "big opponents" that he's met in his career have beat him?
YOU are the main reason Floyd attracts so much attention and consequently the money that goes with it! It's not rocket science, even A prick like Broner has worked it out!
After losing on Saturday, the first thing he said (after the customary thanking of God , naturally) was , to the chorus of boos, " I would like to thank everybody, fans and those that hate me, because you're the reason I get paid these big amounts of money."
Says it all.
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Re: Why is Floyd Mayweather able to attract so much attention?
couple of reasons Floyd attracts so much attention
he's a complete cock and most people want to see him beaten
and for a period he was the only real elite American fighter, least the only one that had an continual interest and that fought regularly
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Short answer: he became the bad guy and half the people want to see him lose and the other half like to root for the bad guy.
Yea you have the so called 'haters' who tune in hoping to see him lose, it goes the other way too with the fan boys who support a him through thick and thin. Race plays a part. Even tho Floyd is not an ideal role model; a brash, unbeaten, successful athlete who calls the shots appeals. There have been so many factors over the years that have kept is name relevant, WWE, DLH, Pac etc.
Yep. He knows how to infuriate white America to get their money to see him lose while also endearing himself as a rap star icon to black America and the youth who pay to see TBE win again.
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I think it's different in the UK his fights are pretty much always exclusively on Box nation so we don't have to pay any extra for him.
I've never had a problem staying up until 6am to watch him fight, would I pay £100 for the pleasure though, not a chance, would I pay £20 for the pleasure, chances are that I wouldn't unless it was actually a decent match up.
Will I pay for him and Conor? Nope
Most of Floyd's recent fights have been on sky and box office platform not box nation.
Floyd has been on Sky twice in 10 years - Mosley ("free") and Pac (PPV).
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Master
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I think it's different in the UK his fights are pretty much always exclusively on Box nation so we don't have to pay any extra for him.
I've never had a problem staying up until 6am to watch him fight, would I pay £100 for the pleasure though, not a chance, would I pay £20 for the pleasure, chances are that I wouldn't unless it was actually a decent match up.
Will I pay for him and Conor? Nope
Most of Floyd's recent fights have been on sky and box office platform not box nation.
Floyd has been on Sky twice in 10 years - Mosley ("free") and Pac (PPV).
What about the Hatton fight?
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I think it's different in the UK his fights are pretty much always exclusively on Box nation so we don't have to pay any extra for him.
I've never had a problem staying up until 6am to watch him fight, would I pay £100 for the pleasure though, not a chance, would I pay £20 for the pleasure, chances are that I wouldn't unless it was actually a decent match up.
Will I pay for him and Conor? Nope
Most of Floyd's recent fights have been on sky and box office platform not box nation.
Floyd has been on Sky twice in 10 years - Mosley ("free") and Pac (PPV).
What about the Hatton fight?
I believe that was PPV, so that means 2 PPV fights in the UK in 10 years and 9 that have not been PPV
When you consider that Hatton was the biggest star in the UK at the time and Mayweather v Pacman was the biggest fight in recent years its Not too bad if you ask me @Master
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And, as he's proven, if you repeat enough that you're THE BEST EVER eventually it will become accepted.
Only Ruthless has fallen for that crap. ;)
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because 99% of humanity have an IQ under 90
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because 99% of humanity have an IQ under 90
@brocktonblockbust did you manage to drag that Somalian woman out of the church?
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because 99% of humanity have an IQ under 90
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brocktonblockbust did you manage to drag that Somalian woman out of the church?
they have 2 New Haven patrol cars parked in front and one in the driveway, a 24 hour protection for that ppiece of shit. Im going back net week dressed as a Hispanic and going in to the Sunday Mass as a parisioner, thedn I will get her.
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I think it's different in the UK his fights are pretty much always exclusively on Box nation so we don't have to pay any extra for him.
I've never had a problem staying up until 6am to watch him fight, would I pay £100 for the pleasure though, not a chance, would I pay £20 for the pleasure, chances are that I wouldn't unless it was actually a decent match up.
Will I pay for him and Conor? Nope
Most of Floyd's recent fights have been on sky and box office platform not box nation. He is an overpriced woman beating illiterate lucky prick who could never carry a fight off his own back, he needs a big opponent to sell big because he is not exciting and has no punch power.
^Right there is why Floyd is so popular. Desperate delusional hate. And these types are so desperate they will always pay.
If these people could just say "he's damn good but he bores me" they could win. But they can't win because they need their delusion "Floyd can't sell" they hate the man. This means Floyd has established an emotional connection to these people. There are countless studies about how humans are programmed with a fundamental need to be right. Ever got into a fight with a significant other and later realized you don't even really care about what the fight is about? This is what Floyd has done. He's made a bunch of irrational girlfriends out of fans. If they can't be honest, they are so connected that they are willing to lie to themselves and others, he's got them. Because deep in the brain these people have a need to be right and a need to see it.
Floyd can't sell. A person was willing to write that the greatest selling boxer of all time, and by a wide margin, can't sell. You could spread delusion like that on toast.
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Master
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Batman
I think it's different in the UK his fights are pretty much always exclusively on Box nation so we don't have to pay any extra for him.
I've never had a problem staying up until 6am to watch him fight, would I pay £100 for the pleasure though, not a chance, would I pay £20 for the pleasure, chances are that I wouldn't unless it was actually a decent match up.
Will I pay for him and Conor? Nope
Most of Floyd's recent fights have been on sky and box office platform not box nation. He is an overpriced woman beating illiterate lucky prick who could never carry a fight off his own back, he needs a big opponent to sell big because he is not exciting and has no punch power.
^Right there is why Floyd is so popular. Desperate delusional hate. And these types are so desperate they will always pay.
If these people could just say "he's damn good but he bores me" they could win. But they can't win because they need their delusion "Floyd can't sell" they hate the man. This means Floyd has established an emotional connection to these people. There are countless studies about how humans are programmed with a fundamental need to be right. Ever got into a fight with a significant other and later realized you don't even really care about what the fight is about? This is what Floyd has done. He's made a bunch of irrational girlfriends out of fans. If they can't be honest, they are so connected that they are willing to lie to themselves and others, he's got them. Because deep in the brain these people have a need to be right and a need to see it.
Floyd can't sell. A person was willing to write that the greatest selling boxer of all time, and by a wide margin, can't sell. You could spread delusion like that on toast.
Do not over analyse it, I have never paid and never will.
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I think it's different in the UK his fights are pretty much always exclusively on Box nation so we don't have to pay any extra for him.
I've never had a problem staying up until 6am to watch him fight, would I pay £100 for the pleasure though, not a chance, would I pay £20 for the pleasure, chances are that I wouldn't unless it was actually a decent match up.
Will I pay for him and Conor? Nope
Most of Floyd's recent fights have been on sky and box office platform not box nation.
Floyd has been on Sky twice in 10 years - Mosley ("free") and Pac (PPV).
What about the Hatton fight?
I believe that was PPV, so that means 2 PPV fights in the UK in 10 years and 9 that have not been PPV
When you consider that Hatton was the biggest star in the UK at the time and Mayweather v Pacman was the biggest fight in recent years its Not too bad if you ask me @
Master
I am sure Saul Alvarez was on sky.
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Master
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I think it's different in the UK his fights are pretty much always exclusively on Box nation so we don't have to pay any extra for him.
I've never had a problem staying up until 6am to watch him fight, would I pay £100 for the pleasure though, not a chance, would I pay £20 for the pleasure, chances are that I wouldn't unless it was actually a decent match up.
Will I pay for him and Conor? Nope
Most of Floyd's recent fights have been on sky and box office platform not box nation.
Floyd has been on Sky twice in 10 years - Mosley ("free") and Pac (PPV).
What about the Hatton fight?
I believe that was PPV, so that means 2 PPV fights in the UK in 10 years and 9 that have not been PPV
When you consider that Hatton was the biggest star in the UK at the time and Mayweather v Pacman was the biggest fight in recent years its Not too bad if you ask me @
Master
I am sure Saul Alvarez was on sky.
Nah I'm 99% certain it was Boxnation, I think that was before Matchroom had stole the monopoly.
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Just checked and it was Boxnation
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And all Mayweather haters think that he hand picked every easy fight possible even though many of them were thought to be able to compete much better than they did. There were very few fighters that I think Floyd kind of avoided during his career. He was so much better than most people that it didn't matter who he fought, he was going to make his opponent look bad.
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I respect Floyd's skills, but I have no idea how or why he is able to garner so much attention. The man is a fraud making mugs of people year in year out. He chose Victor Ortiz as an opponent despite there being no demand for such a matchup. He fought Andre Berto despite there being no demand for such a matchup. He fought Guerrero despite there being no demand for such a matchup. He even fought Maidana despite there being no demand for such a match up (almost came unstuck). So, he has been picking and choosing fight in fight out. Let's not even get started on opponents like Baldomir or Mitchell or how he wouldn't even make the weight against a tiny Marquez.
If Mayweather came to fight and was interesting to watch you might somehow get it, but he is incredibly boring and does the bare minimum in every fight against opponents you knew he was going to beat anyway. How on earth is he popular? Do ordinary fans enjoy watching him fight? The opponents are handpicked and he makes you fall asleep every time. At least Pac gives something back by having a fight that anyone can watch, but Floyd wants the money, he wants to pick the opponent, and he wants to bore you. He's taking the mickey and I just cannot fathom how that is popular.
Then he comes along and picks a fight with a novice and the media is all over it, the forums are all over it and again I am scratching my head. There are much better fights than this, there are fights that actually have meaning and will very well entertain. Don't be suckered into this con mans games. He's laughing at you all.
Thoughts?
He is more intelligent than people give him credit for. Plus, people want to see him beaten. Also, his flashy money style garners attention, both good and bad. Lastly, and most importantly, he is animated when it comes to trash talking.... he REALLY shits on opponents. Oscar, Shane (in particular), Corely, etc... he shits on dudes and people get angry at him for it.
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If there EVER was a boxing "heel", like Wrasslin' with Ric Flair, it has to be Floyd.
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Brocks comment about the IQ might well be on the money. The only Floyd fights I have been interested in were the Hatton and Pac ones. Both sly moves really. One was getting Hatton up to 147 and having the dodgiest referee in the world. The other was waiting a decade until deciding to pounce on Pac. Pac doesn't have his legs or the ability to sustain an attack. The arm was a nice excuse, but his output or legs never came back even when 'healthy' again.
Floyd is boring, he cherrypicks, and this latest pantomime is the icing on the cake. We could have him go to the toilet and say he is fighting the turd of a lifetime and it would make 50 million from the fanboys who cannot wait to get a look and those wanting to see him lose saying 'This will be the turd that gets him'.
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Brocks comment about the IQ might well be on the money. The only Floyd fights I have been interested in were the Hatton and Pac ones. Both sly moves really. One was getting Hatton up to 147 and having the dodgiest referee in the world. The other was waiting a decade until deciding to pounce on Pac. Pac doesn't have his legs or the ability to sustain an attack. The arm was a nice excuse, but his output or legs never came back even when 'healthy' again.
Floyd is boring, he cherrypicks, and this latest pantomime is the icing on the cake. We could have him go to the toilet and say he is fighting the turd of a lifetime and it would make 50 million from the fanboys who cannot wait to get a look and those wanting to see him lose saying 'This will be the turd that gets him'.
As Ron pointed out, people like you who have such a hatred for him just grows his popularity. Only 2 fights of his you have been interested in? The best fighter in the world? He has fought tons of good fighters. The hatred is just out of control.
There are definitely fighters I don't like but my hatred doesn't cloud my judgement. For example, I've never been a Pacquiao fan, and I can give way better examples of him cherry picking than Floyd has done, but I don't create threads about it because I don't really care.
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Brocks comment about the IQ might well be on the money. The only Floyd fights I have been interested in were the Hatton and Pac ones. Both sly moves really. One was getting Hatton up to 147 and having the dodgiest referee in the world. The other was waiting a decade until deciding to pounce on Pac. Pac doesn't have his legs or the ability to sustain an attack. The arm was a nice excuse, but his output or legs never came back even when 'healthy' again.
Floyd is boring, he cherrypicks, and this latest pantomime is the icing on the cake. We could have him go to the toilet and say he is fighting the turd of a lifetime and it would make 50 million from the fanboys who cannot wait to get a look and those wanting to see him lose saying 'This will be the turd that gets him'.
As Ron pointed out, people like you who have such a hatred for him just grows his popularity. Only 2 fights of his you have been interested in? The best fighter in the world? He has fought tons of good fighters. The hatred is just out of control.
There are definitely fighters I don't like but my hatred doesn't cloud my judgement. For example, I've never been a Pacquiao fan, and I can give way better examples of him cherry picking than Floyd has done, but I don't create threads about it because I don't really care.
Hatred? How absurd. What on earth does hate have to do with disliking cherry picking and a completely boring style? I hardly think Floyd is growing in popularity because of 'people like me'. I don't think anyone is going to read my posts and think 'God, I'm just going to have to spend 100 dollars on that farce because that Gandalf chap thinks it is a load of toss. I am just not having that!' Though it would fit in with Brock's IQ of 90 prognosis of the situation. Yep, in the last decade about 2 fights have interested me. I wasn't interested in Guerrero, Berto, Marquez, Ortiz, Maidana, Baldomir, none of them. The others were slightly more intriguing, but typically you had a damaged older guy or a green fighter in Alvarez. It's not hate to say that half of the fights were complete hand picks and that the others had very serious question marks surrounding them. The last time Floyd fought someone slick was in 2006. He goes with the style that won't give him problems. And of course lots of money too. Maybe there are very legitimate reasons for not being overly enamoured with Floyd Mayweather, but to resort to the 'Oh, you is just a hater' argument is a very weak one.
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It's a strong argument because it's very well backed up with the money he makes and the popularity he has. I'm not saying that you are influencing others, in saying that there are many people like you that just love to hate him which is why he is so popular. People love to hate him.
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Miles starts a thread about a fraud who is hated by everyone, wondering how he gets so much attention...!!!
I love it!
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Miles starts a thread about a fraud who is hated by everyone, wondering how he gets so much attention...!!!
I love it!
Good thread miles!
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It's a strong argument because it's very well backed up with the money he makes and the popularity he has. I'm not saying that you are influencing others, in saying that there are many people like you that just love to hate him which is why he is so popular. People love to hate him.
On that basis money and popularity would justify Justin Bieber too and that is a step too far. I don't hate Justin Bieber either, but do think his followers are deluded and that his music is mediocre. Maybe he can hold a note, but that doesn't justify the material or how silly the fans are. Kind of similar with Floyd. I respect his skills, but I don't enjoy seeing him fight and prefer to watch other fighters.
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And all Mayweather haters think that he hand picked every easy fight possible even though many of them were thought to be able to compete much better than they did. There were very few fighters that I think Floyd kind of avoided during his career. He was so much better than most people that it didn't matter who he fought, he was going to make his opponent look bad.
Disagree with this. It's all been hashed out in numerous other threads before so I don't really want to get into it again but here's my outline. I would have like to have seen him face Casamayor or Frietas before leaving 130 but he stepped up against the best guy at lightweight and gave him an immediate rematch after the closeness of the 1st bout so he got huge props for that. He would have been favored over Spadafore & Dorin but those 2 would have done more his legacy than Sosa & Ndou. The only guy he should have been looking at at 140 was Tszyu. A Wright fight was all but done but fell through for him to end up fighting Mitchell. I can understand the Baldomir fight because of the lineage but the Judah & De La Hoya fights were just money grabs. Did Hatton ever 'win' a fight at 147? Collazo would argue that. He took on one of the best in Marquez in his comeback but blew the weight against a lightweight. I give him credit for the Mosley win because Sugar Shane took out Margarito. The thing is he left the game (retired) leaving Cotto & Margarito to fight each other. He looked fantastic against young lion Alvarez, but didn't take the opportunity to face Martinez (the middleweight champ) who had previously offered to make 150. The Pac fight was 5 years too late. GGG offered to drop to 154. Ward said he'd come down to 160. It's not all Mayweathers fault that these fights didn't happen, just a list of other potential opponents.
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Miles starts a thread about a fraud who is hated by everyone, wondering how he gets so much attention...!!!
I love it!
You are weird.
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Exactly Brock, nearly 3 billion people have watched that and it is completely shit. That song is a perfect metaphor for the Connor/Mayweather fight. Justin Bieber will probably sing it walking Mayweather to the ring. ALmost got there in the past. :-\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO397JnT-YE
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And all Mayweather haters think that he hand picked every easy fight possible even though many of them were thought to be able to compete much better than they did. There were very few fighters that I think Floyd kind of avoided during his career. He was so much better than most people that it didn't matter who he fought, he was going to make his opponent look bad.
Disagree with this. It's all been hashed out in numerous other threads before so I don't really want to get into it again but here's my outline. I would have like to have seen him face Casamayor or Frietas before leaving 130 but he stepped up against the best guy at lightweight and gave him an immediate rematch after the closeness of the 1st bout so he got huge props for that. He would have been favored over Spadafore & Dorin but those 2 would have done more his legacy than Sosa & Ndou. The only guy he should have been looking at at 140 was Tszyu. A Wright fight was all but done but fell through for him to end up fighting Mitchell. I can understand the Baldomir fight because of the lineage but the Judah & De La Hoya fights were just money grabs. Did Hatton ever 'win' a fight at 147? Collazo would argue that. He took on one of the best in Marquez in his comeback but blew the weight against a lightweight. I give him credit for the Mosley win because Sugar Shane took out Margarito. The thing is he left the game (retired) leaving Cotto & Margarito to fight each other. He looked fantastic against young lion Alvarez, but didn't take the opportunity to face Martinez (the middleweight champ) who had previously offered to make 150. The Pac fight was 5 years too late. GGG offered to drop to 154. Ward said he'd come down to 160. It's not all Mayweathers fault that these fights didn't happen, just a list of other potential opponents.
The main thing I meant was avoided not that there weren't fights he potentially could have made. I've heard both sides of the argument many times and I just don't think that Floyd really avoided most fights. I'm not saying he didn't avoid any but not many IMO. Many fights that should have been made, as you said, weren't his fault.
I'm still not sure why people hate on the de la Hoya fight. I thought that de la Hoya would win. He was bigger and a really good fighter. It was definitely a tough fight. It wasn't at all a gimme.
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And, as he's proven, if you repeat enough that you're THE BEST EVER eventually it will become accepted.
Only Ruthless has fallen for that crap. ;)
And 99% of the media all around the world. Even loads and loads of boxing pundits/ex-boxers constantly peddle it out. Very jarring.
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I think it's different in the UK his fights are pretty much always exclusively on Box nation so we don't have to pay any extra for him.
I've never had a problem staying up until 6am to watch him fight, would I pay £100 for the pleasure though, not a chance, would I pay £20 for the pleasure, chances are that I wouldn't unless it was actually a decent match up.
Will I pay for him and Conor? Nope
Most of Floyd's recent fights have been on sky and box office platform not box nation.
Floyd has been on Sky twice in 10 years - Mosley ("free") and Pac (PPV).
What about the Hatton fight?
I believe that was PPV, so that means 2 PPV fights in the UK in 10 years and 9 that have not been PPV
When you consider that Hatton was the biggest star in the UK at the time and Mayweather v Pacman was the biggest fight in recent years its Not too bad if you ask me @
Master
I am sure Saul Alvarez was on sky.
Nah I'm 99% certain it was Boxnation, I think that was before Matchroom had stole the monopoly.
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Just checked and it was Boxnation
Master is so anti-Sky/Hearn/Floyd that his tiny little brain turned them into a conglomerate.
Floyd was hardly ever shown pre-Oscar. The only time he got on Sky before that was Oscar undercards (Sky were the only place showing international fights back then). Corrales and Gatti were live. That's about it until maybe Baldomir/Oscar.
Floyd's never been on UK terrestrial TV once in his entire career. Thank fuck for the internet/BoxNation/Sky, it is fantastic these days compared to the dark old days that twerps like Master (and loads of other folk his/my age) pine for.
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Re: Why is Floyd Mayweather able to attract so much attention?
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Batman
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Master
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Fenster
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Master
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Batman
I think it's different in the UK his fights are pretty much always exclusively on Box nation so we don't have to pay any extra for him.
I've never had a problem staying up until 6am to watch him fight, would I pay £100 for the pleasure though, not a chance, would I pay £20 for the pleasure, chances are that I wouldn't unless it was actually a decent match up.
Will I pay for him and Conor? Nope
Most of Floyd's recent fights have been on sky and box office platform not box nation.
Floyd has been on Sky twice in 10 years - Mosley ("free") and Pac (PPV).
What about the Hatton fight?
I believe that was PPV, so that means 2 PPV fights in the UK in 10 years and 9 that have not been PPV
When you consider that Hatton was the biggest star in the UK at the time and Mayweather v Pacman was the biggest fight in recent years its Not too bad if you ask me @
Master
I am sure Saul Alvarez was on sky.
Nah I'm 99% certain it was Boxnation, I think that was before Matchroom had stole the monopoly.
*edit*
Just checked and it was Boxnation
Master is so anti-Sky/Hearn/Floyd that his tiny little brain turned them into a conglomerate.
Floyd was hardly ever shown pre-Oscar. The only time he got on Sky before that was Oscar undercards (Sky were the only place showing international fights back then). Corrales and Gatti were live. That's about it until maybe Baldomir/Oscar.
Floyd's never been on UK terrestrial TV once in his entire career. Thank fuck for the internet/BoxNation/Sky, it is fantastic these days compared to the dark old days that twerps like Master (and loads of other folk his/my age) pine for.
whole heartedly agree, whilst the amount of PPV's gets too much £12 will see you get Cotto v Kamegai, BJS v Monroe Jr and GGG v Alvarez
I'd much rather that than wait for Channel 5 to sneak a fight on every couple of months
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Re: Why is Floyd Mayweather able to attract so much attention?
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And all Mayweather haters think that he hand picked every easy fight possible even though many of them were thought to be able to compete much better than they did. There were very few fighters that I think Floyd kind of avoided during his career. He was so much better than most people that it didn't matter who he fought, he was going to make his opponent look bad.
Disagree with this. It's all been hashed out in numerous other threads before so I don't really want to get into it again but here's my outline. I would have like to have seen him face Casamayor or Frietas before leaving 130 but he stepped up against the best guy at lightweight and gave him an immediate rematch after the closeness of the 1st bout so he got huge props for that. He would have been favored over Spadafore & Dorin but those 2 would have done more his legacy than Sosa & Ndou. The only guy he should have been looking at at 140 was Tszyu. A Wright fight was all but done but fell through for him to end up fighting Mitchell. I can understand the Baldomir fight because of the lineage but the Judah & De La Hoya fights were just money grabs. Did Hatton ever 'win' a fight at 147? Collazo would argue that. He took on one of the best in Marquez in his comeback but blew the weight against a lightweight. I give him credit for the Mosley win because Sugar Shane took out Margarito. The thing is he left the game (retired) leaving Cotto & Margarito to fight each other. He looked fantastic against young lion Alvarez, but didn't take the opportunity to face Martinez (the middleweight champ) who had previously offered to make 150. The Pac fight was 5 years too late. GGG offered to drop to 154. Ward said he'd come down to 160. It's not all Mayweathers fault that these fights didn't happen, just a list of other potential opponents.
The main thing I meant was avoided not that there weren't fights he potentially could have made. I've heard both sides of the argument many times and I just don't think that Floyd really avoided most fights. I'm not saying he didn't avoid any but not many IMO. Many fights that should have been made, as you said, weren't his fault.
I'm still not sure why people hate on the de la Hoya fight. I thought that de la Hoya would win. He was bigger and a really good fighter. It was definitely a tough fight. It wasn't at all a gimme.
I personally didn't think Oscar had much left after the Hopkins fight.
