Dislocated shoulders--Can I still join?

[Jereme S]

Alright well being in boxing/ufc or something with fighting has always been my dream for a long time. BUT just in the past year,year and a half both my shoulders have dislocated up to 5 times on each.

I had surgery on my right shoulder, did therapy for about a month 3 times a week and my doctor that did the surgery said I could stop and just lift at home and work it. Well I really didn't work it at home just until recently when my shoulder popped when I was bare knuckle boxing my friend.

Anyways to my question:

Is there anyway I can still join boxing and train to strengthen my shoulder muscles?

Additional Information:

I had surgery on my right shoulder about 4-6 months ago,, cant remember.
Left shoulder has dislocated about 4-5 times now.

[JazMerkin]

You're best going to a physiotherapist, but boxing will not 'help' strengthen your shoulder joints. As an example, I sprained the acromioclavicular joint in my shoulder about a month ago & I still have to wait at least another 2 weeks before I can do any light training (e.g. skipping, ground-work, speed-bag etc). It will probably at least another 3-4 weeks after that before I'm allowed to hit the bags again & even then I'll have to monitor myself. Definitely see a physiotherapist first about the issue

[Jereme S]

Thats not what the question meant.

I meant it as Can I still join boxing?

and

Do you guys think there is anyway to still strengthen my shoulder muscles for boxing.

Also whats a physiotherapist.

[Scrap]

With your track record its not a good idea. Obviously your shoulders cant take impact.

[Jereme S]

That sucks

I've always wanted to be a boxer... for like so long now. And now its fucked up because my shoulder.. so gay.

[CGM]

I've had that surgery, ligaments get tightened up and attached to bone via a staple or two is how it happened for me.

My doctor told me it was quite a common surgery for athletes, and I was led to believe they'd be more or less as good as new, and since the surgeery I've had no problems.

So don't be too quick to write off your boxing career.

[jamiebhoy]

Thats not what the question meant.

I meant it as Can I still join boxing?

and

Do you guys think there is anyway to still strengthen my shoulder muscles for boxing.

Also whats a physiotherapist.

A bit confused here, you had surgery but can't remember when and you don't know what Physio is. Where did you get the surgery, you should be speaking to your doctor if you were not recommended for a course of recovery physio.

Even given that you have had the surgery and it may make things better I don't know how long your shoulders will hold out once you start some serious training.

CGM, were you pretty active at the point you had your surgery, seems like there could be an inherant weakness for Jereme, was yours down to wear and tear?

[Andre]

Thats not what the question meant.

I meant it as Can I still join boxing?

and

Do you guys think there is anyway to still strengthen my shoulder muscles for boxing.

Also whats a physiotherapist.

A bit confused here, you had surgery but can't remember when and you don't know what Physio is. Where did you get the surgery, you should be speaking to your doctor if you were not recommended for a course of recovery physio.

Even given that you have had the surgery and it may make things better I don't know how long your shoulders will hold out once you start some serious training.

CGM, were you pretty active at the point you had your surgery, seems like there could be an inherant weakness for Jereme, was yours down to wear and tear?

I was thinking the same thing they do go hand in hand.



Lets study the word a bit for any clues...physiotherapist

physio the rapist .


My God, looks like it could be a case of traumatic amnesia.

[CGM]

No, it's not that I was particularly active, I just had bad luck, accidental injuries that knock my shoulder right out of joint, And by this I don't mean a Hopkins injury, it popped out and stayed out till it got pulled back in. After a few times my Doctor told my the ligaments had become very loose, and that I should get them tightened up. Point being that once this was done I had a pretty good shoulder.

I didn't gather from Jerome's thread whether it was a congenital defect thing, or whether he just had bad luck. Once yu have the injury a couple times, you become vulnerable to additional injuries until you have it fixed. Once it gets fixed, then it can be a whole new ballgame.

I don't know all Jerome's circumstances. Such as how it happened. But I don't think that the mere fact that he has had a number shoulder dislocations is evidence in and of itself that his boxing career is over.

Maybe it is, but not from what I can determine here. The only advice I was giving was don't rush to judgement, consider all the angles. Get advice from a sports injury specialist. And then decide whtehr to hang them up.

[Andre]

There is a study of an alternate healing practice that works very well for all things.
It has to do with what we feel deeply on a subconscious level and how that can eventually erupt out into a material problem within the body.

This can occur because the body obeys the mind set and the mind obeys your deeper feelings whether they are on a fully conscious level or if not, from the sub conscious level below that.

Joints therefore represent the ease in which we can change direction in our lives.

Shoulders represent whether we chose to carry a burden and see life as being just that.


So to correct the sub conscious feelings; You have to re affirm mentally so that your (conscious thought patterns) learn how to overrule the sub pattern of deeper feeling.

The correct thing for that injury to say over and over to yourself Is :

"I allow all of my life experience to be joyous and loving ,I am always going in the best direction for me, I easily flow with any changes".

If you write that down and read it out to yourself alot you will be surprised how you can clear the problem right from the source,then all the other ways of phsio, medicine, eastern or western; will be backed up fully by you.

[jamiebhoy]

And Andre sparks up another Doobie

[CGM]

There is a study of an alternate healing practice that works very well for all things.
It has to do with what we feel deeply on a subconscious level and how that can eventually erupt out into a material problem within the body.

This can occur because the body obeys the mind set and the mind obeys your deeper feelings whether they are on a fully conscious level or if not, from the sub conscious level below that.

Joints therefore represent the ease in which we can change direction in our lives.

Shoulders represent whether we chose to carry a burden and see life as being just that.


So to correct the sub conscious feelings; You have to re affirm mentally so that your (conscious thought patterns) learn how to overrule the sub pattern of deeper feeling.

The correct thing for that injury to say over and over to yourself Is :

"I allow all of my life experience to be joyous and loving ,I am always going in the best direction for me, I easily flow with any changes".

If you write that down and read it out to yourself alot you will be surprised how you can clear the problem right from the source,then all the other ways of phsio, medicine, eastern or western; will be backed up fully by you.

I suppose. But for me, falling over sideways had a lot to do with it.

[Andre]

Not at all, dont smoke. I do see your point though, I used to have the same one.

Thousands of people have cured themselves the world over; even from cancers and all sorts of stuff, all from going back into the real cause.

If we were all the same and the same thing cured or made us all Ill, i could understand western medicine and peoples protection of it over some others.

But we are very intricate individual layered pieces of work and some subtle effects can grow into a belief and then they can have material effects into other parts of our being.

You can start to reverse allot of things from within yourself if you want to.

[Andre]

There is a study of an alternate healing practice that works very well for all things.
It has to do with what we feel deeply on a subconscious level and how that can eventually erupt out into a material problem within the body.

This can occur because the body obeys the mind set and the mind obeys your deeper feelings whether they are on a fully conscious level or if not, from the sub conscious level below that.

Joints therefore represent the ease in which we can change direction in our lives.

Shoulders represent whether we chose to carry a burden and see life as being just that.


So to correct the sub conscious feelings; You have to re affirm mentally so that your (conscious thought patterns) learn how to overrule the sub pattern of deeper feeling.

The correct thing for that injury to say over and over to yourself Is :

"I allow all of my life experience to be joyous and loving ,I am always going in the best direction for me, I easily flow with any changes".

If you write that down and read it out to yourself alot you will be surprised how you can clear the problem right from the source,then all the other ways of phsio, medicine, eastern or western; will be backed up fully by you.

I suppose. But for me, falling over sideways had a lot to do with it.

Sure thing, so could being drawn and quartered or put to the rack like back in the old days. Thats from the other end of the scale.

[CGM]

There is a study of an alternate healing practice that works very well for all things.
It has to do with what we feel deeply on a subconscious level and how that can eventually erupt out into a material problem within the body.

This can occur because the body obeys the mind set and the mind obeys your deeper feelings whether they are on a fully conscious level or if not, from the sub conscious level below that.

Joints therefore represent the ease in which we can change direction in our lives.

Shoulders represent whether we chose to carry a burden and see life as being just that.

I just thought after such an insightful spiel from yourself, falling over sideways had a certain comic appeal. But I'm a big believer in the power of the mind and it's effect on the body. "The power of positive thinking" is more than just a cliche.
So to correct the sub conscious feelings; You have to re affirm mentally so that your (conscious thought patterns) learn how to overrule the sub pattern of deeper feeling.

The correct thing for that injury to say over and over to yourself Is :

"I allow all of my life experience to be joyous and loving ,I am always going in the best direction for me, I easily flow with any changes".

If you write that down and read it out to yourself alot you will be surprised how you can clear the problem right from the source,then all the other ways of phsio, medicine, eastern or western; will be backed up fully by you.

I suppose. But for me, falling over sideways had a lot to do with it.

Sure thing, so could being drawn and quartered or put to the rack like back in the old days. Thats from the other end of the scale.

I just thought falling over sideways (true) sounded funny after such an insightful spiel. But yeah, the relationship between body and mine should not be underestimated,