My take on Froch - Taylor...

[Tam Seddon]

This fight panned out exactly how I thought it would of done in that Taylor would establish a strong lead and then start to feel the pace after the sixth round. The fight changed at that point and I had the fight even going into the last round.

Well done to Jermain Taylor, I thought he started the fight really well but he really was going to find a strong 168 fighter too much in the final rounds and I knew the knockout was going to come. I admit Carl did take a lot of shots, but with his granite chin he got straight back into the fight and after the knockdown he gained his composure straight away. I think Froch did really well to change his game plan by upping the pace when he knew Taylor would struggle, the later rounds were the key to the fight and I knew Carl would take him at the end.

Very well done to Carl Froch, he really has proved that he is the man to beat at 168. Not many champs for their first ever defence would go over to face Jermain Taylor on foreign soil without any television rights. I respect Carl Froch so much for that and he dug deep when he needed to and showed that he really is a world class champion. I was very pleased that Carl kept a disaplined game plan in rounds 11 and 12 and that was the difference in the two men in the end. Carl had the bigger heart and wanted it more and big respect for Carl for doing that.

I think Jermain would give problems to ANY 168 fighter in the early parts of the fight. But he simply has to work on his stamina because he cant afford to lose championship rounds like he did against Froch. I really question what lies ahead for Taylor now, I do seem him causing problems early on but I think this third loss will really effect him in the long run and I cant see him having that burning desire again to be champion. At 30 years old its a tough time for him and I wish him luck!

For Carl Froch I believe this fight really has established himself as the man at 168. I remember before most of you even watched Carl, Bilbo called him the 'dark horse' of the weightclass. He really did prove that tonight againt Taylor and I cant wait to see him in his next fight. At 31 I really hope he goes straight for unification, Bute is the fight that makes sense to me. Allan Green will be a step backwards from Taylor IMO. Bute is what he needs to set up a fight against Kessler to really sort this weight class out.

The performance of Carl Froch early on in the fight can be critized, he was wide open when he lunged in with wild shots and Taylor capitilzed fully on that. Going into the 5th round I had Taylor ahead on every single round and with the knockdown he was up six points IMO. Froch changed his game plan, like he did against Pascal and with so much applied pressure, which Jermain Taylor couldnt take I knew he would clock up the rounds and the late stoppage I felt prior to the fight would be on the cards IF carl made it past the first half of the fight.

Correct many of you are that Taylor did have stamina issues, but none the less he is a very gifted fighter and I dont think that was the main reason why Carl won the fight. Carl diversifed to the next level and at a higher weight class I dont think Taylor could take the pressure. Sustained pressure was appiled after the 6th and it built up into the championship rounds for Carl to take the victory. Me and a few others in this forum realise what Carl brings to the table and I hope that performance against Jermain Taylor will open some of the arrogant eyes we have on this forum towards Carl Froch. He proved tonight that he is a world class fighter, he will be the man when he continues to win big named fights like this. This is the start for Carl Froch and you will see that he really will be number one in the weight class in the very near future.

As for a rematch I simply dont agree, there would be nothing to gain for Froch apart from a payday against Taylor. I see the fight ending the way it did 9/10 against Taylor. Taylor needs to move on, Froch needs to keep chasing the big names.

Well done Carl, you've proved the boxing world wrong and I am chuffed for you mate! You are a true champion my son and you dont understand how proad I am for you! 09 is the year of the cobra, mark my words Bute has it in for him if he has the balls to fight Carl.

[smashup]

How long have we been telling people that the Cobra is for real Tam..?

2/3 years i reckon.

Showed what he's all about and that was a brilliant display of Bulldog spirit

Never doubted he'd beat Taylor for a second and i knew he'd take him from the end of the tenth (Taylor looked distressed and beaten sitting their) but fuck me he left it late.

I thought JT was superb last night for the record and it took Carl ages to get in range without getting clipped in the process.

Great nights work from Froch and he's gonna make serious money from now on..(he got just £480,000) last night

[Tam Seddon]

Yes mate, its taken a while but hes certainly proved his worth last night. I have had a smile on my face all day, Im so happy! We knew exactly how the fight would end smash, how right ( apart from out round 10 call ) we were

[luvfightgame]

Great fight. I had him losing until the ko. I had virtually the same score as the announcer for Showtime. Good for Froch, but I felt that Taylor kind of gave it away and should have boxed the last round. I think a rematch would be good.

Froch looked very slow in that fight, but great chin and spirit. Overall a great night of boxing.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Great fight. I had him losing until the ko. I had virtually the same score as the announcer for Showtime. Good for Froch, but I felt that Taylor kind of gave it away and should have boxed the last round. I think a rematch would be good.

Froch looked very slow in that fight, but great chin and spirit. Overall a great night of boxing.

exactly how i saw it, IMO Taylor was dominating up to the 7th and then it was following the pattern of Froch starting to take the rounds early and Taylor coming from behind to steal them, i had Froch winning the 9th,10th, and 11th rounds straight but Taylor looked gassed and had stopped using his jab, i have no idea why he quit using his jab cause it looked beautiful last night, and then Froch was able to capitalize, honestly if Taylor would have made it out the 12th, even with the knockdown in the final round, IMO he would have won 8 rounds to 4 each with a kd.

[DaxxKahn]

How long have we been telling people that the Cobra is for real Tam..?

2/3 years i reckon.

Showed what he's all about and that was a brilliant display of Bulldog spirit

Never doubted he'd beat Taylor for a second and i knew he'd take him from the end of the tenth (Taylor looked distressed and beaten sitting their) but fuck me he left it late.

I thought JT was superb last night for the record and it took Carl ages to get in range without getting clipped in the process.

Great nights work from Froch and he's gonna make serious money from now on..(he got just £480,000) last night

What fight were you and Tam watching?

I think Tam was high and imagined the scenario he described above, Froch did shit until the 11th rd, he looked like an idiot no less then 4 times did he take shots at Taylor just to miss and end up going face first towards the ropes as if he was an amateur starting out, His chin is not like Iron, it is not even like Pigs Iron, Taylor was never a hard puncher even at 160 let alone 168,

If Taylor did not tire he would be champ right now, if Taylor held through the 12th instead of just covering up he would be champ right now.....

Do you think Librado Andrade would fold to the shots Froch threw? Would Froch absorb the punishment he did last night against lets say Kessler and stay standing?

NO and to say different would be a lie,

Froch was exposed last night plain and simple

I give him credit though he did get up and he did keep fighting when he was down big and for that you can not deny his heart, he is a decent fighter but is he the best in the division?

No, he is not even third or 4th, Bute wanted Mick Hennessy to make a contract right then and there, he was drooling at the fact he could face Froch

After the fight Mick and Froch actually had the balls to say that Carl showed a P4P performance!!!!!!


He stayed up and scored the KO but in no way did he show anything last night, he got his ass kicked and kicked good.

How I wish Calzaghe would return to 168 just for a night w Froch......

I was less the 30 feet from the ring and I promise Froch at no time other then when Taylor tired did anything worth while...

He has heart and he was willing but it was Taylors stamina that won the fight for Froch last night

[Violent Demise]

How long have we been telling people that the Cobra is for real Tam..?

2/3 years i reckon.

Showed what he's all about and that was a brilliant display of Bulldog spirit

Never doubted he'd beat Taylor for a second and i knew he'd take him from the end of the tenth (Taylor looked distressed and beaten sitting their) but fuck me he left it late.

I thought JT was superb last night for the record and it took Carl ages to get in range without getting clipped in the process.

Great nights work from Froch and he's gonna make serious money from now on..(he got just £480,000) last night

What fight were you and Tam watching?

I think Tam was high and imagined the scenario he described above, Froch did shit until the 11th rd, he looked like an idiot no less then 4 times did he take shots at Taylor just to miss and end up going face first towards the ropes as if he was an amateur starting out, His chin is not like Iron, it is not even like Pigs Iron, Taylor was never a hard puncher even at 160 let alone 168,

If Taylor did not tire he would be champ right now, if Taylor held through the 12th instead of just covering up he would be champ right now.....

Do you think Librado Andrade would fold to the shots Froch threw? Would Froch absorb the punishment he did last night against lets say Kessler and stay standing?

NO and to say different would be a lie,

Froch was exposed last night plain and simple

I give him credit though he did get up and he did keep fighting when he was down big and for that you can not deny his heart, he is a decent fighter but is he the best in the division?

No, he is not even third or 4th, Bute wanted Mick Hennessy to make a contract right then and there, he was drooling at the fact he could face Froch

After the fight Mick and Froch actually had the balls to say that Carl showed a P4P performance!!!!!!


He stayed up and scored the KO but in no way did he show anything last night, he got his ass kicked and kicked good.

How I wish Calzaghe would return to 168 just for a night w Froch......

I was less the 30 feet from the ring and I promise Froch at no time other then when Taylor tired did anything worth while...

He has heart and he was willing but it was Taylors stamina that won the fight for Froch last night

Now that is a post from a man who knows his Boxing. 100% agree.

[Fenster]

I think Tam and Smashup deserve a little gloat. They are the only two longstanding Saddo members that have backed Froch all the way.

Well done

At the end of the day Froch KO'd Taylor. That's all that matters.

[Violent Demise]

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:


VD REPPED ME WITH WORDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY KIND TOWARDS FROCH

'Your boy gots heart. I'll give him that. He's Carl for today only.'

The response

"You know Carl is the man, give some slack for once VD"

LOL. Muthafukka I just did

I think Tam and Smashup deserve a little gloat. They are the only two longstanding Saddo members that have backed Froch all the way.

Well done

At the end of the day Froch KO'd Taylor. That's all that matters.

At the end that is the final result.

BTW if you check the fight thread that night it's amazing how quiet Smash was as the fight was going on. And he was online

[Fenster]

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:


VD REPPED ME WITH WORDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY KIND TOWARDS FROCH

'Your boy gots heart. I'll give him that. He's Carl for today only.'

The response

"You know Carl is the man, give some slack for once VD"

LOL. Muthafukka I just did

I think Tam and Smashup deserve a little gloat. They are the only two longstanding Saddo members that have backed Froch all the way.

Well done

At the end of the day Froch KO'd Taylor. That's all that matters.

At the end that is the final result.

BTW if you check the fight thread that night it's amazing how quiet Smash was as the fight was going on. And he was online

Well Taylor was winning the fight (easy IMO), so that's understandable. But the FRoch man still pulled it out the bag.

So if I were Smashup or Tam i'd be pretty fucking happy i'd told everyone so

[CGM]

I think Tam and Smashup deserve a little gloat. They are the only two longstanding Saddo members that have backed Froch all the way.

Well done

At the end of the day Froch KO'd Taylor. That's all that matters.

I don't really know how it went, but when you see a statement like this, then you know there has to be some kind of extenuating circumstance.

[ross]

Carl did take a lot of shots, but with his granite chin he got straight back into the fight and after the knockdown he gained his composure straight away

No, stop saying it!!!

He does not have a granite chin!!

Taylor wasnt even a massive puncher at middle!!

I come from Guernsey and our island is built on the hardest Blue granite in the world, to say Carls chin compares absolutely disgusts me

Also, he didnt gain his composure straight away Calzaghe like.

He slumped to the floor, had a terrified look on his face and looked to McCracken for a clue then had to stay down a bit to tryt and get his head to clear, then Taylor stands off for the rest of the round.

Whereas good recouperative powers are Calzaghe getting up and stopping his opponent in the same round or making the round even by totally outworking the opponent

Just remember, it wasnt even a ranked supermiddle he was fighting that dropped him

[CFH]

Carl did take a lot of shots, but with his granite chin he got straight back into the fight and after the knockdown he gained his composure straight away

No, stop saying it!!!

He does not have a granite chin!!

Taylor wasnt even a massive puncher at middle!!

I come from Guernsey and our island is built on the hardest Blue granite in the world, to say Carls chin compares absolutely disgusts me

Also, he didnt gain his composure straight away Calzaghe like.

He slumped to the floor, had a terrified look on his face and looked to McCracken for a clue then had to stay down a bit to tryt and get his head to clear, then Taylor stands off for the rest of the round.

Whereas good recouperative powers are Calzaghe getting up and stopping his opponent in the same round or making the round even by totally outworking the opponent

Just remember, it wasnt even a ranked supermiddle he was fighting that dropped him

The Ring Super Middleweight Ratings

[ElTerribleMorales]

Carl did take a lot of shots, but with his granite chin he got straight back into the fight and after the knockdown he gained his composure straight away

No, stop saying it!!!

He does not have a granite chin!!

Taylor wasnt even a massive puncher at middle!!

I come from Guernsey and our island is built on the hardest Blue granite in the world, to say Carls chin compares absolutely disgusts me

Also, he didnt gain his composure straight away Calzaghe like.

He slumped to the floor, had a terrified look on his face and looked to McCracken for a clue then had to stay down a bit to tryt and get his head to clear, then Taylor stands off for the rest of the round.

Whereas good recouperative powers are Calzaghe getting up and stopping his opponent in the same round or making the round even by totally outworking the opponent

Just remember, it wasnt even a ranked supermiddle he was fighting that dropped him

The Ring Super Middleweight Ratings

yea i'm not so sold on the The Ring Rankings anymore, they have Manny Pacquiao ranked the #5 welterweight in the world for godsake

[CFH]

No, stop saying it!!!

He does not have a granite chin!!

Taylor wasnt even a massive puncher at middle!!

I come from Guernsey and our island is built on the hardest Blue granite in the world, to say Carls chin compares absolutely disgusts me

Also, he didnt gain his composure straight away Calzaghe like.

He slumped to the floor, had a terrified look on his face and looked to McCracken for a clue then had to stay down a bit to tryt and get his head to clear, then Taylor stands off for the rest of the round.

Whereas good recouperative powers are Calzaghe getting up and stopping his opponent in the same round or making the round even by totally outworking the opponent

Just remember, it wasnt even a ranked supermiddle he was fighting that dropped him

The Ring Super Middleweight Ratings

yea i'm not so sold on the The Ring Rankings anymore, they have Manny Pacquiao ranked the #5 welterweight in the world for godsake

While I disagree with their ranking of Manny Pacquiao, the Ring Rankings are universally regarded as the best ranking system in boxing (well, 2nd to Saddo's ranking system of course).

Regardless, my point was not to spark a debate on the validity of the Ring Rankings, only to demonstrate that Ross is spouting bullshit again like usual.