Angel Adams, 37 yrs old with 15 kids and complaining about lack of gov't assistance

[VictorCharlie]

A minimum wage exists to provide a basic means to survive, or at least it should. It should be enough to cover your living costs and get by month to month. Obviously 7 US dollars does not provide that to any sufficient degree whence something like 50 million people needing food stamps. Now if there are effective controls on corporations in regards to outsourcing, unchecked immigration etc, then obviously there will still be jobs.

A min. wage exists to pander to people. It discriminates against unskilled workers and nothing more. See the 3rd video I posted for succinct look at the damage the minimum wage does.

In regards to your abhorrent views on service industry workers, then I think you are quite repugnant. You shouldn't need to rely on the charity of a customer to top up 2.15 an hour. How about you just pay a fair wage of 20 dollars if that is what the worker will end up taking home. Instead, you are asking the worker to whore themselves to the highest paying bidder. It is sick when all you are doing at the end of the day is buying a drink.

It isn't charity. It is a fair exchange for service rendered. I've already explained how this is a better system for the server, employer and customer. Everyone wins except ignorant whiny British expats that know nothing about how things work in a country he has never been in.

What is relevent is outsourcing and unchecked immigration.

What is good is freedom of movement and exchange of commerce, culture and goods regardless of borders. Only bigots like yourself think you can put up a wall and hide from those pesky foreigners.
Interesting article about open borders and peace

http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detai...#axzz2hjSmEKvm

When it comes to dismissing people who flip burgers and clean toilets, I think you again display a pompous arrogance and disregard for important jobs.

This is pretty rich considering how dismissive you are of my profession. That being said how/when was I dismissive of those professions? I said they didn't require a high level of skill. I dont' think that is really debatable.

Again, what is the harm in paying the Mc'D's worker 18 bucks an hour?

There isn't anything wrong with that if the employer believes the worker's labor is worth that much and vice/versa but that is an agreement for them to come to and none of your business. Why not just allow people to negotiate their own wages w/o gov't intrusion? I mean if we are going to have a minimum wage why not just make it $100 dollars an hour and we can all be rich.

That is where you don't value people, they are a mere commodity to be exploited. I disagree with that on political, moral, and ethical grounds.

I do value people, so much that I think what they decide to work for or pay their employees is their own decision but please get off your moral high horse. You are the same guy that was upset you got a slavic cabby and a Pakistani hotel clerk the last time you were home.

What I encourage is that society should care more for it's home labour resources as eventually when the skeleton is stripped, the entire thing will come crashing down like a house of cards. The middle classes have been eroded for 40 years, 50 million are on food stamps, the end isn't going to be pretty.

People should care more but what you encourage is the empowering of government to coerce people into giving up the fruits of their labor through a threat of violence to spend as you best see fit. Compassion for one's fellow man is an honorable thing but advocating for people to do it at gunpoint is not. See the video I posted about George. The narrator even has a very "British" accent and not foreign so you can relate.