You're right Fenster, being 9 means that he had no impact on me at all. Had I been old enough to be aware of him then who knows how all of the hype and excitement would have tainted my views.

I didn't get caught up in the hype like you 'was'.

All that gets left once the hype dies is the substance.

I'd agree with your list Memphis, but there's nobody of the Morales/Barrera/Marquez calibre, no elite fighter at their peak... A decent handful of decent fighters, even world level fighters do not make for more than a good career (which Hamed had, don't get me wrong). Not enough for me to call him one of the greatest.

In terms of career, I'd put him about level with Ricky Hatton. Some seem to think he was the eras answer Pacquiao or Mayweather