What will Clinch-ko's legacy be?

[TitoFan]

No Joe Frazier didn't change his style, he was 29 years old and a pressure fighter....he wasn't going to be able to change his style.

Yes, he was 29 when he got KTFO'ed by Foreman. Wlad was 28 when he got KTFO'ed by Brewster. I don't get your fucking point but ok... you're Lyle, so obviously you're right. Frazier wasn't going to be able to change his style because........ oh...... because he was a "pressure fighter"? Good reason.

Frazier continued his storied career, and even had the aforementioned Thrilla in Manila later on. Wlad turned into Bambi from there on out. Nothing you said explains away this disparity.

Objection OVERRULED.

Ali changed HIS style in order to what was that you said "to one of survival over aggression" but that's no biggie, it's Ali and not 1 bad word will be said about HIM. Sure you see Ali vs Williams and see your float like a butterfly sting like a bee, then you see Ali-Foreman and it's lay on the ropes like you're tired and arm punch like a bee....but oh Ali was the greatest and totally not because he just said that shit himself

Yes.... (sigh)..... Ali changed his style, Lyle. You get a happy face for your notebook. (patiently)..... Ali changed his style, but he remained an effective, aggressive fighter. The rope-a-dope against Foreman? He was facing the most feared puncher probably in HW history, the one who had pulverized Frazier previously. Ali didn't throw himself shamelessly on top of Foreman the way Wlad did with Povetkin. Ali employed a strategy whereby he waited till Foreman tired himself out, then knocked him out.

"Lennox Lewis avenged his defeats".....Wlad beat Lamon Brewster and what? Nothing he gets nothing for that? No "Atta boy" no "Way to be champ" Haha, only Wlad can do that avenge a defeat and then STILL have you bring up "Well Lennox avenged his defeats" like Wlad has done absolutely nothing....Wlad got up off the canvas to win a fight, Lennox ever do that? But naaah, that's no big deal no need to be handing Wlad any credit because you thoroughly dislike the guy.....fine, dislike away, enjoy your disliking.

Atta boy.

Tyson didn't change his style.....oh really? Well then you must be the fucking first person to ever admit that because if you ask a Tyson fan about him there's no better Tyson than Tyson with Cus or Rooney and anything else is not Tyson in his prime.

This was your most hilarious response.
I speak of Tyson not changing his style and you respond that people say that Tyson with Cus was better and anything else is not Tyson in his prime?!?

Hello? Habla español?? Sprichst du Deutsch??

I like it better when we debate something and you actually make sense, TBH.


I hate to put it this way, because it IS going to sound patronizing and condescending, but I'll try to be gentle.

Changing one's style has fuck all to do with how good you happen to be at whatever point in time, or not. They're two separate issues.

Comprende?