Tito, pressure fighters don't change their stripes. Now with Wlad you had a big guy, a big puncher, what did he lack? A chin, some defense, you patch together a style that works for him and boom you can change him. What was Frazier going to do? Was Joe Frazier going to use his height on Foreman? Was Joe going to use a different defense against Foreman? I mean you tell me, I've not really ever seen a pressure fighter be anything other than a pressure fighter. If a fighter's mentality is to move the hands, attack attack attack, then it's going to take some time to slow them down, have them think defense first at times. Imagine this, imagine Mike Tyson had to change his style, what would you end up with? It wouldn't be Pernell Whittaker, it wouldn't be Lennox Lewis, MAYBE you could get him to fight more like Holyfield, but at the end of the day 100% of Pressure fighters who can punch with power end up like David Tua and the Pressure fighters without power.....well they don't last very long. Joe Frazier never won another meaningful fight, oooh he and Ali beat the piss out of each other in Manilla, whoopty do...Frazier lost yet again to Foreman right after that as well....didn't make any progress did he? Meanwhile Wlad, looking like the career is over at 28 gets back in the saddle and runs off a streak of wins which is HISTORIC...but ok, I get it, you don't like him, don't like his style....and here I was thinking that the objective was to win fights.


Ali was yes EFFECTIVE, yes maybe even AGGRESSIVE....fun to watch? For you maybe, but not for me. Leaning on the ropes, holding the head of his opponent down with both arms....illegal or do we just notice that when Wlad has a clinch? Wlad never held an opponent down like Ali did, Wlad would tie up and walk back, but that's about it.


Take your atta boy and fuck off it's like 10 years too late for that shit


See again my point about pressure fighters not changing their styles...Tyson was what he was, the was nothing else you were going to do to better the guy. Manny Steward made Wlad a smarter and therefore BETTER fighter. Wlad could have fought his career the way he fought early on as a pro, but had he done so he wouldn't have been as dominant because there's no guarantee that he'd be able to KO everyone he fought, plus he'd be giving up his most useful advantages in his height and reach....he won belts with the previous style, he became GREAT after Steward coached him up. Could he have been better? As in better for the fans to watch? Yeah, he probably could have...but could the results have been better? You'd be very hard pressed to answer in the affirmative there.



You don't appreciate Wlad, I get it, I think we ALL get it....totally fine....but he's still an All-Time great fighter, you don't get his record without being great, you don't win as many title fights, you don't get as many title fights, you don't reign for that long without being a GREAT fighter....doesn't matter who you face either. Larry Holmes got beat by a light heavyweight for fucks sake and he's a great fighter.