Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
Sorry about that, brother Andre, I fully understand your situation now. I have no intention of imposing my views on anyone, but on the contrary I encourage you, and even my buddy Bilbo, to express your beliefs. It's my principle to support any religion because I believe all religions are united at least on the principle of love, peace and justice, and eventually I believe all will be united on that principle - goodness. It's mainly the Godless idea that I attack, like the theory of evolution in its pure form. We need as much religion in this world as possible because I think ultimately that will be what will unite the word in peace.

I've learned to think differently over the years, even in my own religion - the traditional Catholics will probably abhor my own doctrines because I don't take the bible literally. To me it's full of symbolism. For example the Catholic doctrine of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, I see the Father of course as God, the Son as the God or Jesus living within our own hearts who can only be reached thru faith, and the Holy Spirit as the universal energy that flows thru the channel to the world and to the individual in in various forms - which of course is not the way Catholics believe. I've learned to think this way probably because of my meditational influence: you are probably aware that famous story of Zen monk telling someone to first remove all the preconcieved ideas he has before he can thing rightly, just like cup of tea that must be emptied of old tea before it can be filled with new one. I have learned to do just that, remove my original thoughts which were primarily motivated and clouded with the instinct of survivor, and once free from that survivor prejudice that fans hatred, anger, war, etc., I am trying fill it with what flows from above. I must say I'm probably not yet perfect, and perhaps still has some of that ego, as you say, prejudice left in me that may influence my thoughts. But on the whole, I'm very confident I've gotten rid of most of those prejudice.

But again, I must warn you, if anything I say will compromise your belief, by all means, stick to your faith because you've chosen that path and it's your faithful duty to stick to it, no matter what. Who knows, all this might just be a test for you. The only thing I can say firmly is that I don't subscribe to the idea of almost all religion, including Catholics, that theirs is the only true religion (which naturally implies that they are the only ones to be saved), while all others are wrong and therefore condemned. Again I can be wrong, but I believe God breathed the idea of religion on all civilization, just as I think Lyle mentioned something like all tribes developed similar culture at about the same time. But since humans are imperfect channels, they all received that God inspired idea differently. But not so strangely, almost all religion goes thru their evolutionary process but are nervetheless united on the principle of love, justice, and peace. On that principle I believe all will be united one day. Perhaps I'm a bit naive.

But Andre, do not be inhibited from expressing your religious views, although it may naturally invite some haters; I always encourage everyone to express his views. Nobody has a monopoly of ideas, so we can all learn something from one another.

Well thanks, Andre, consider me your brother. With much love, pacfan.
I can say this much Pacfan. Im not inhibited ,but there are doors that you and I have unopened, there is one behind you and one in front of you still.

There is one major 'Universal sin' above any of the Earthly ones.
That is to stop or to slow down or take control of someone elses spiritual progression,this is what the dark side practitioners still do and they steal light/love energy from the masses through this practice.
This is sacred ground,you will see no Ascended master , Sun of God , Angel ,Archangel or Cherabin ever doing it. notice Lord level emmitted.
Freedom of Choice is part of the grand plan so that All the different souls or spirit forms on this higher 3d level can find their whole way back to their original form; by their own choice.
If any religious person or any person within one ,or of a certain dark belief system lays it on another spirit and states "this is your only truth" and their natural progression is interuppted or halted, guess who has to pay for it and guess where and how long you have to wait until you can move on; (you wait ,until they catch up to where you were at, right before you stopped them in their tracks).This is why you can point, lead by example but never take anyone there by giving them exact directions and stating: "THIS IS THE ONLY WAY FOR YOU."
That is the truth directly from within the eternal gift of freedom of choice, so it is divine direction straight from the top source. Again the rule applies "as above so below".

I dont think you are naive at all, I belive too that all energy will be re united one day.

The Lord level being of light and Love; states "love is the way."

Iam the way.

This is truth.
The religions have taken on the Lord level way of the dark side ;control of others, through false teachings.