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Joe Calzaghe's chin as good as Hopkins, Toney ? i can't imagine either of those fighters being dropped like a sack against a mediocre puncher, like Kabary Salem.
Well Salem did kill a man in the ring so I'm guessing he's capable of doing some damage.

I don't recall Reggie Johnson being a knockout machine either.

But you're splitting hairs as usual Ice. The fact is Calzaghe has never been stopped in 45 fights and when he's been down he's always come back to win.

The only time he ever got hurt he got the guy out of there in the same round. His chin is proven, his talent is proven, his resume is proven.

It's funny that when he beats Jones you'll all say it's because Jones was washed up even though he's only 3 years older than Calzaghe and 4 years younger than Hopkins.

Tarver is older than Jones but I guess he only beat Jones becuase he's the fresher man right?

If Jones hasn't been able to adapt his style in the light of advancing age in the way that other great fighters have then it's marks off him I'm afraid.

He hasn't been in any ring wars that have taken their toll, he didn't get for the first 40 or so fights of his career. When he did we finally saw that he wasn't as invincible as we thought.

Don't get me wrong I love Roy Jones, the man's a legend but to assume he is so much better than Joe that he could whup in 5 rounds is just unrealistic. I know it wasn't you who said that......

Calzaghe would be a tough fight for Jones at any stage of his career.
Actually people are saying jones is washed up NOW so im saying it before the fight and im saying it AFTER. and its well known Jones is past it anyway so u might as well get that out ur mind.

and tarver is that much older than jones maybe by a few months but thats it.

Jones was considered unbeatable until he lost, then he became 'shot'

It's similar to Mike Tyson but even worse. Whereas it's just clueless casual fans who think a prime Tyson was unbeatable and would have destroyed any fighter alive even serious fans of boxing seem to think that a prime Jones Jr could have made a fool out of every fighter who ever lived.

No doubt Jones at his peak was exceptionally good but nobody is unbeatable and nobody is the perfect fighter.

I'm not saying Calzaghe would beat Jones, but honestly a prime matchup would be a tough fight for both men.

And ultimately if Jones isn't able to adapt to his slowing years, and change his fight style to acomodate then as I said before it's a mark against him.

Nearly all truly great champs have overcome adversity and bounced back to win when not expected to, Robinson, Ali, Leonard, Duran, Foreman.

As it stands Jones was never able to avenge a loss, and never won a big fight after being defeated for the first time.

He has just as much to prove going into this fight as Joe imo.

And I really don't think Jones is shot either, he's slowed slightly and will have to fight more carefully now but he's still Roy Jones and Calzaghe himself is at the end of his career plagued with hand troubles.

This is going to be a great fight and whoever wins will deserve maximum respect.