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I think it's kind of amusing the almost mythical status Jones Jr of a decade ago has.

Personally I think a prime Roy Jones versus a prime Joe Calzaghe is one hell of a matchup.

Jones would have to be favourite but those who think Calzaghe would get blown away in 5 rounds are just wishful thinking.

Calzaghe has never even lost a fight let alone been knocked out, his chin is as solid and proven as Hopkins or Jame Toney.

Whenever they fought it goes the distance imo and the fact is, as Roy Jones even says himself, he has never fought a fighter like Calzaghe either so we really don't know for sure what would happen.
Joe Calzaghe's chin as good as Hopkins, Toney ? i can't imagine either of those fighters being dropped like a sack against a mediocre puncher, like Kabary Salem.
Well Salem did kill a man in the ring so I'm guessing he's capable of doing some damage.

I don't recall Reggie Johnson being a knockout machine either.

But you're splitting hairs as usual Ice. The fact is Calzaghe has never been stopped in 45 fights and when he's been down he's always come back to win.

The only time he ever got hurt he got the guy out of there in the same round. His chin is proven, his talent is proven, his resume is proven.

It's funny that when he beats Jones you'll all say it's because Jones was washed up even though he's only 3 years older than Calzaghe and 4 years younger than Hopkins.

Tarver is older than Jones but I guess he only beat Jones becuase he's the fresher man right?

If Jones hasn't been able to adapt his style in the light of advancing age in the way that other great fighters have then it's marks off him I'm afraid.

He hasn't been in any ring wars that have taken their toll, he didn't get for the first 40 or so fights of his career. When he did we finally saw that he wasn't as invincible as we thought.

Don't get me wrong I love Roy Jones, the man's a legend but to assume he is so much better than Joe that he could whup in 5 rounds is just unrealistic. I know it wasn't you who said that......

Calzaghe would be a tough fight for Jones at any stage of his career.
Bilbo you have no idea what your talking about first off just because Kabary Salem, killed a man in the ring what has that got to do with his punching power ?

Emile Griffith had 23 KO's out of 85 wins and has the record for the most championship rounds i believe, which means he was no puncher and was never considered to be one, but he killed Benny Kid Paret in the ring.

Again i ask you what has that got to do with having punching power ? Kabary Salem has a 41 percent KO ratio and he has only had 29 fights, he has never ever considered to be a puncher and you are being Joe Calzaghe nuthugger now Bilbo no offense.

Secondly i love the way you sarcastically say Joe Calzaghe will beat RJJ, like you can see into the future. Joe Calzaghe is for certain the favorite but RJJ is still the fastest fighter Joe Calzaghe has ever fought in his career, RJJ is the bigger man so lets not count are chickens just yet.

Reggie Johnson was a decent puncher and no big puncher i agree, but he is very skilled fighter much more skilled than Kabary Salem, plus he is a Southpaw and he caught James Toney with an unorthodox shot which James Toney never see coming.

Now im not making excuses for James Toney, but you can hardly compare James Toney getting knocked down by a skilled fighter like Reggie Johnson. To a mediocre fighter like Kabary Salem.

Lastly i think your being very biased here Bilbo, just because fighters are almost the same age means nothing. Riddick Bowe was a shot fighter in his late 20's. Joe Calzaghe hasn't had to move up and down in weights like RJJ, which takes alot of toll on your body.

I can't believe your even trying to argue that there isn't that much difference. Between them prime wise because of there age, i seriously think you need to watch a prime RJJ then watch the current RJJ and see the major difference.