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Blimey, you're confusing me now.

The whole point of recognising the linear champion is because multi world champions is utterly ridiculous.

The man that beat the man at least keeps some order. Even if the apparent best fighter isn't occupying the position.

As long as you recognise Dawson is currently top dog because of the form he has shown and NOT because he has an alphabet title, i agree. I think.
Yep that's it in a nutshell

Calzaghe is the true LHW champion of the world.

I think as time goes on the alaphabet belts mean less and less to real fans.
All they do is confuse fight fans and put people off the sport.

I only recognise The Ring champions as real world champs these days.
~Have you not read any of the 1000 plus words I wrote?

It's not because Dawson has a belt that makes him the man to beat it's the fact that he's the only top light heavyweight who actually fights light heavyweights!

Hopkins had ONE fight at light heavy, beating Tarver. He then gave up the belt and fought Winky at 170 who had never gone above 160 and then fought Joe a supermiddle who had never fought outside that weight class before. Both Joe and B Hop weight 173 for the fight, not sure if that was an agreed catchweight or not but Calzaghe came in at just under 175 for Jones.

Hopkins never wanted anything to do with the 175 weight class other than the chance to call himself a two weight world champ.

Calzaghe beats Hopkins, in a fight which might just as well have taken place at 168 and then fights Jones Jr, which although a huge marquee fight against a boxing legend, wasn't against a fighter rated as one of the real current threats in the division.

Meanwhile Dawson has been fighting and beating everybody.

It's similar to Juan diaz when he was winning all the belts and defeating everyone in the lightweight divsion whilst Casamayor was scraping through thanks to corrupt judging and going life and death with relatively ordinary fighters like Katsidis.

If Juan Diaz had beaten Nate Campbell and then Marquez had beaten Casamayor before vacating the belt and fighting Juan Guzman back at superfeather, then Valero came up and beat Marquez in a non title fight we'd be in a similar situation.

And I'd be adament that Valero wasn't the number 1 in the division, Juan Diaz would have been, not becuase of trinket belts but becuase he was the guy winning fights in the lightweight division.


So if Calzaghe wants to be able to truly lay claim to being king at 175 he needs to beat the other unbeaten fighter who has won 2 world title belts and beaten Tarver, Johnson and Adamek three bona fida world champs