People Are Idiots

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But can you say the kid really understood the ramifications of what he was doing?
Thats one of the key points that has to be proved for murder 1.
I mean,Keannu Reeves gets shot all the time,and comes back stronger then ever.
One of the reasons I dont let my kid watch violent movies

I addressed that point directly in my post. But I'll repeat, no not all of the ramifications will be understood by the kid.

I'll also add yes, the kid most likely understands that he can kill someone by shooting them, and when you kill someone they don't come back. The sort of ramifications he is maybe not likely to understand is stuff like the moral sanctity of life, and also the fact that in a civilised society you don't just go around shooting people you don't like.

I'll admit,my kid is kind of sheltered,we dont even let him watch Ed,Ed,and Eddie or Chowder because we find it objectionable, but I just cant see him going and grabbing a gun in a pre-meditated murder,and understanding the ramifications of what he was about.
I could see the kid,wanting to hurt his father,but I dont think the kid got that when you do that,they stay gone. Or even what death really means.

Well, you would know best about your own kid, Im not saying that all 8 year olds understand the concept of death, or even that they should understand those concepts. What I am saying is that it is entirely possible for an 8 year old to nderstand those concepts, it is not beyond their capabilities. It would depend on what they are taught, or on what they have been exposed to.

I can't say it any better than that, perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree.