Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
To be honest Bilbo, I don't disagree with you, and I don't have anything better to offer. I'm just pointing out what I consider to be a flaw in the concept.

Like I said, it will be interesting to see how Ring Magazine handles it. Will they rank PAC as a welterweight, and will they rank him as the #1 welterweight, assuming he still has his p4p #1 status. Same question applies to JWW, seeing as how it looks like he will fight Hatton.

So how do you see it? How do you think Ring magazine will/should rank PAC?

Me, I do not think Ring will rank him #1 p4p without being #1 in a particular division.
The Ring rankings for Manny are a little strange to be honest.

He's rated number in the world p4p, number 3 at lightweight behind Marquez and Campbell and number 5 at welterweight, a division that has no champ.

It appears strange but not really when you consider that all the rankings are based on different factors.

At lightweight, Marquez defeated Casamayor who was the linear champ, something very important to the Ring who follow the belt lineage like it's the line of David so Marquez is number 1. Campbell is at 2 at lightweight as he defeated Juan Diaz who by overwhelming and universal consent was seen as the best at lightweight having unified 2, maybe even 3 belts I can't remember whilst Casamayor was looking God awful.

Manny got his belt by beating the weakest link in David Diaz so at lightweight those rankings make sense, based on acomplishments within that division.

At welter he's number 5 behind Margarito, Cotto, Mosely and Clottey, with Williams and Floyd no longer rated as Paul moved up and Floyd retired.

Again based on acomplishments within that weight class the Ring have it spot on imo.

But when it comes to p4p the weight classes are disregarded and the fighters's acomplishments overall are taken into account irrespective of weight.

Manny has been on fire the last couple years and has a record that is hands down the best of any current fighter so he is overwhelmingly the p4p best in the world.

Does that mean I think he could beat Paul Williams or Tony Margarito? Hell no he's too small, but it's irelevent, this is p4p and wins in 3 weight classes with two world titles and a win over a legend who lost a split decision to the other p4p best Floyd only two fights prior means Manny has acomplished the most of any fighter currently in action.

So in conclusion, he's p4p the number 1, at lightweight number 3 and at welterweight number 5.

Confusing, not at all