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    Default Re: So the fight is off but how the hell is it Mayweathers fault???

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    First off I thought you were gone till this fight was confirmed??

    Secondly I am on Pac's side after what he brought to the table in this latest attmept to get this fight on imo Floyd never wanted this fight, Pac brought Scientists to the table and agreed to the following which is not in the rules of usual Nevada fights so he has agreed to some of Floyds demands:

    1. blood test before the Press Conference
    2. blood test 24 days before the fight
    3. blood test at the dressing room right after the fight (if anyone took any substance as aid for the fight, it wouldn't magically disappear fifteen minutes after right?)
    4. unlimited urine testing during the whole training period (urine testing is the prescribed method by WADA to detect EPO and is now developed by USADA to detect HGH)

    how could any sane boxer cheat with this?


    Floyd turned this offer down flat, so how the fuck is Manny to blame for this fight being off??

    Floyd wouldnt budge Manny would and these tests he said he would take are fine with me and would be with any other person expect little Floyd.
    Nope what you take doesn't disappear out of your system 15 minutes after the fight but it can be unable to be traced 24 days before a fight.

    The thing Mayweather mainly wanted was random drug tests. As in Pacquiao having no knowledge when he is gonna get his blood drawn. If you know when you're gonna get your blood drawn it doesnt stop you from doing anything afterwards. If I know im gonna get drug tested right after the press conference and then 24 days before the fight I can do whatever I want in between and pretty much predict when it will be out of my system. Urine tests can be beaten, its been shown before and it will be shown again.

    Again, I do not understand why Pacquiao doesn't want to have random drug tests. Bolt got multiple MULTIPLE drug tests and still set records during the Olympics. So I don't see why Pacquiao can't.

    The big question mark I see is Pacquiao wanting to dictate when his blood is drawn, that to me is shady. Obviously we know Urine tests can be beaten, and thats the only one he's willing to take randomly, but he doesn't share that confidence in bood tests. Which means if he IS on something, then its something untraceable in urine but traceable in blood.

    Just my two cents, but Pacquiao's reluctance to random blood testing but openness to urine ones really has me wondering. Fact of the matter is, this fight will not happen because Pacquiao wants to dictate when his blood is drawn. Now using an example if someone is accused of stealing and the police come to his house and ask if they can enter to check around. Now if the guy stole something and he asks the cops to come back two days later and they agree to what do you think he is gonna do? He is going to hide whatever it is they are looking for or he is gonna make sure it is out of his house by the time they get there, so when they check its nothing but when they leave he takes it out again.


    Same is said here, if Pacquiao's blood, key word BLOOD tests aren't random, he can pretty much dictate when he knows it will probably be in his system and when it won't be. As in nothing stops him from doing it right after cause he basically knows after the press conference he doesn't have to blood test again till 24 days before the fight. Thats a whole 2 or 3 months.

    Get what Im saying? If the blood tests are RANDOM there is no way to dictate that so his safest bet would be to not use them at all or he'd be caught. And in my opinion thats the best way.

    Wow Majesty got his dick stuck up Mayweather's arse would never have guessed that .

    Go do a little reserch on the urine side of things .
    Maybe you should have. From a drug doctor's point of view

    Ask the Doc: With steroid and HGH testing, is blood or urine best? | MMAjunkie.com

    Here's a quote about which is better

    Anyway, urine testing is cheaper, less invasive (no needle stick required) and has fewer potential complications (not unless peeing on your hand is considered a complication) than blood testing.

    Blood screening is more sensitive (more likely to detect a banned substance), detects more banned substances, and is more difficult to beat through "masking" methods. Blood screening is the current standard for detecting abnormally elevated levels of synthetic human growth hormone (HGH).

    Feel free to read all of that. Urine testing is easier to mask then blood testing, as has been proven before and will be again.

    And here's another quote from another article


    Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, told Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports that both urine and blood tests are needed to determine if a fighter is clean.

    "There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone," Tygart said. "It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.”



    Maybe you're the one that should have done research on Urine and Blood.
    Last edited by Majesty; 01-07-2010 at 02:16 PM.
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