Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
...yeah generalbulldog, IMO the UFC is on easy street right now but the newer guys aren't going to want to get chump change (when compared to even average boxers...hell Alexander Povetkin was looking at making $2.5 million vs Wladimir) in their big time fights...they will eventually go Union (which Boxing not having 1 central Association cannot do but it's not like they need to because THEY make the contracts and sign them).

Coouture vs Toney to me was only going to be "exciting" or "special" if #1 Toney submitted Randy #2 If Randy KO'd Toney or #3 if the fight was close and went the distance.

I know that not all MMA fans are like this, but I think they really have an inferiority complex. Yes there are a ton of ignorant boxing fans but there are people who like MMA and especially UFC right now STRICTLY because "it's the hot new thing"....Spike TV has made it all edgy, Energy Drinks and everything "X-treme" sponsors it, and obviously Dana White (a guy who basically got the doors shut on him in the boxing World) has shown he can market to middle class angry white kids ages 16-30 and perhaps kind of like boxing (and this is important) the fighters can make the sport seem #1 Very Easy and #2 Devoid of actual skill......and when I say "Devoid of actual skill" I mean fighters can make it SEEM like they just go out there and swing wild punches or just rely 100% on brute strength or quickness...it's just the way the minds of those middle class angry white kids work, look at Charlie Zelenoff...sure he's the extreme case of this type of mentality but there are plenty of cats out there just like him that think they can just up and hop in a ring (or octogon) and be somebody. All pro athletes train these days (some a lot more than others) and the guys who are really dedicated to honing their craft can make their sport seem effortless, look at what Michael Jordan did...hell he pretty much damn near ruined basketball because everyone was trying to be "Like Mike" and make all the big time fancy highlite reel plays but they didn't know how hard he worked on the basics to make himself that great...look at Roy Jones Jr. and Ali and Mike Tyson....loads of people say those guys (more so than fighters like Rocky or Joe Frazier) were "Naturally Gifted" and I think that discredits the hard work they put in to becoming as great as they were.

Comparing Boxing to MMA is like comparing Tennis to Badminton....yes they are similar but there are gigantic differences at the same time.

As for the Kimbo-Ray Mercer MMA fight....let's see them box, I wonder how fast Kimbo would have him out of there then.
Well said Lyle. Honestly as we've discussed I can't stand most of the MMA fans that wear "Tapout" and drive Daddy's truck or car and think they are tough.

I like MMA and I'm an MMA fan myself, but I'm a boxing fan first.

Last night was a pathetic display by Toney. A non effort. Didn't even try for a KO punch when Randy shot in. Just fell over like a fat hippo.

Hell I say lets have Mercer and Kimbo have a rematch now and see who wins.

Gurantee Mercer would kill him now after training in MMA.