Wikileaks? Are you for or against what they are doing?

[Kev]

I heard Assange and Wikileaks were going to start going after the Catholic Church....if that's the case then it won't be long Julian


Say what you will about the Catholic Church, but they still carry weight and they can and will still have people killed and I would think Assange is really playing with fire on this one. The CIA may get him locked up, but the Church will have him 6 feet under and not bat an eye.

This may be bad of me, but I do hope Michael Moore gets caught in some crossfire....they would have to be armor piercing rounds though to penetrate that mass of blubber that encases him.

Moore would be an ambitious kill for sure. They would need to take advice from the Chinese Whaling industry for that hit.

I just really hate Assange. Furthermore his actions won't improve transparancy but will only serve to make nations and corporations more secretive. He is just doing damage.

The recklessness of it is criminal too. It's like if the police when called to carry out a search warrent just listed every finding on the internet, every item, every bill, letter, record, files on the pc, phone calls, web sites visited etc whether it was relevent or not and whether any evidence was found.

Privacy and confidentiallity HAS to be protected. They are FUNDAMENTAL human rights, at both a personal and organisational, even national level.

I don't object to whistle blowing when it in the public interest, and the documents and details uncovered and published are strictly to do with the corruption at hand, but just hacking into a private server and stealing every cable and putting them all on the net is not moral. It is theft, a betrayal of trust, espionage, criminal and I would say terrorism.

He should get at least 25 years imo.

Simply put Assange is a 21st Century Robespierre...he sees an evil in the government, but he has an evil inside of him that would just love to wield the power of the government. His movement will eat him alive....soon people will find out the truth about him and that he's not in this for the betterment of society, but he's in it because he wants to be a Cult of Personality, he's a narcissistic anarchist, and people (miles included) will eventually become disenchanted with this liberal darling....it happens very often, hell look at what has become of American politics and in only 2 years. Once people thought the Republican party dead, and now who's getting kicked out of office this January?



I forsee very few positive outcomes for Assange....I do think assasination is a distinct possibility, he's pissing off too many people to get out of this unscathed. I for one am looking forward to his downfall with great anticipation...if I saw him, I might even join in.

Yeah he's definitely a narcissist, people who have worked with him have said as much. I was reading about one such supporter only yesterday in the Telegraph who has quit Wikileaks because of his unethical behaviour and unnacountability.

The thing with Miles is, he has these ideals in his head, and he's committed to those ideals, and anybody who in any way seeks to further those ideals is ok by him, no matter how nefarious their methods or how violent or unnacceptable their behaviour.

When it comes to Israel, he hates them and hates everything they do. The good is ignored, the bad is everything and what is absent is imagined. The same with America, the same with Amir Khan.

So Assange is the good guy and always will be, no matter what skeletons he has in his closet or how unscrupulous his methods.

Palestine and opposers of Isreal will equally always be the good guys, victims of an out of control terror state, in every and all situations. Even when evidence brought to light via his hero Assange shows that those in the Arab world actually worry more about Iran than Israel his commitment to his ideals causes him to dismiss Egypt, the UAE, Bahrain, Syria and Saudi Arabia as tinpot dictatorships whose opinions can be ignored and that Israel is remains the only true menace in the region,

Likewise Khan's opponent's will be treated unfairly by referees, blighted by bad luck, or if Khan destroys them, then soft opposition, handpicked to make him look good.

That's why these threads are always such good entertainment for me, to see how far he will go to sustain his views even if it means giving up on more important ideals like the right to privacy and confidentiallity in the case of Assange, the condemnation of violence in the case of Palestinian attacks on Israel or the ideals of fair play and proper sporting conduct within boxing. All of these can ideals be tossed aside to ensure that blame is levelled at the appropriate party in Miles' eyes.