should mayweather continue to be ranked in the top P4P in 2011?

[Gandalf]

Oh and as for people not making a big deal out of Oscar's world titles, isn't he like one of the top 5 biggest boxing stars in history?

Have you ever even listened to one of his prefight ring introductions. I would say the boxing world cares and makes a big deal..

And since when did you start defending the orange girl? Shame on you, Bilbo!

No defense from me. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous it is to say that the boxing world doesn't give Oscar any props for his six world titles at different weights.

The man is feted as a God practically.

Anyway, Manny rules, on this we agree, well on earth at least. The heavens belong to God and Jesus will take over the real p4p when He returns, as we both well know and agree.

Manny is a modern great and I have reluctantly conceded this on numerous occasions. The man fights and he fights extremely solid opposition. That is a fact. Martinez does too and where you place them on hypothetical p4p lists all boils down to what you favour. I think Martinez has the slightly more spectacular trajectory with no questions asked, but have no issues if others prefer Manny. I think most of us agree that Floyd just bugger off now.