Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
Bilbo - Was Pascal P4P when he DREW with the old boy? No. Was the old boy P4P? No. Were either P4P Saturday? No.

The Pavlik and Calzaghe fights were three years ago. Since then Hopkins has fought three guys NOT rated P4P - Ornales, virtually dead Roy and Carl Froch victim Pascal.

P4P is about current events. Just because you've got a free bus pass, it doesn't mean you can beat a decent fighter and dive into the top 3.

Jermain Taylor entered the top 10 P4P with his win over Hopkins. He was kicked out BEFORE he ever lost a fight.

P4P is nonsense. You're all currently favouring BHOP just because he's BHOP. Fact.
If its about current events why is Pascal a Carl Froch victim and not a Chad Dawson conquerer?

Martinez is better because he beat a Hopkins victim, a Quintana victim and drew with a Margarito victim? Is this your argument?