Would Ortiz have been a better opponent for Manny than Marquez?

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Ortiz absolutely would have been a better opponent for Manny than Marquez.

W/r/t Marquez, it's not even a weight issue. They could fight at 135 and it would be an utter mismatch because JMM has simply lost a few steps since the two great fights with Pac years ago. IMO, JMM loses to Guerrero and possibly even Rios at 135 today -- forget Manny at 147. This fight is a complete joke and would never be considered legitimate if not for the two fights a long time ago when Manny was worse and JMM was better.

JMM got pasted with shots and had to work his ass off just to get by Katsidis, who is serviceable at best (and got utterly dominated by Guerrero his next time out).

JMM isn't "shot" but he is not a P4P fighter at all any more, and everyone will see that when this fight happens. Just putting this out there now because I know that when I say this again after the fight, there will be a million responses of "you're just saying this now -- everyone thought this was a great rubber match before it happened," etc.

This is not to say that Ortiz is some kind of world-beater and certainly not to say he's on the level of a *prime* (i.e., 5 years ago) Marquez. But at least he brings size and strength to the table, whereas I think today's Marquez brings next to nothing besides heart.