Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
Yes, Ortiz is a legitimate fighter at the wight, Marquez is a great fighter at the lower weight.
Again, not being rhetorical, but Marquez has only lost one fight at 145, and that was against the #1 p4p fighter in the world. How do we know that Marquez can't be effective against someone he's already been effective against at a lower weight at a higher weight? It would be one thing if he lost another fight against someone at 140 or 147. He's arguably won more rounds against Pacquiao than Pacquiao has against him.

Shza's point is well-taken though. Maybe Marquez just is past his prime a bit regardless of weight.

Need I remind - Ortiz isn't exactly a great fighter above 140 either. He quit against Maidana and drew against Peterson. He did, of course, beat Berto, but most people felt like Berto was overrated anyway. So, he doesn't exactly have an unbelievable resume.