Lucian Bute vs. Glen Johnson fight/discussion thread

[captainanddew]

This fight was disappointing, but then it figured to be. Johnson needs to go back to fighting on ESPN FNF and forget about fighting the big boys, he's just not competitive. Bute needs to fight one of the other top Super-mids, Froch, Kessler, Ward, et al, enough with the 'cans.

Bute seemsed a class above the other guys JOhnson has faced. Even against Dawson, Tarver, Froch, etc..., he has been in the fights and they were very competitive and close. This wasn't. Johnson finally got old, Bute was better than the other guys, or most likely, it was a combination of the two.

[roberto duran legend]

Bute will fight the super six guys when its over and done with, cant knock the guy for not fighting them, and when he does he will beat all of them , he was on cruise control against Johnson, i think this guy is top top draw cant wait till he fights Ward, Froch , kessler.

[ross]

Johnson didnt get old over night. He looked far worse against Froch in the last few rounds. Bute was very hesitant to mix it up against a man that wasnt really fighting back, imagine how scared hed be if Froch was swinging at him! From what I saw last night, all Bute has is the to the body.

Duke McKenzie was doing my head in, hes like Bunce the way he overreacts to stuff. Bute would miss a combination and hed say Bute was ally dominating and piling the pressure on, when in fact it was Johnson whos punches has landed ( what there were of them).

We saw Bute struggle to figure out how to get through to Johnson, Froch hurt Glen a few times. I think Glen was intimidated by Butes speed and did cover a bit more but Bute didnt try to open him up at all! It wasnt a fantastic display by any means

[Rantcatrat]

This fight was disappointing, but then it figured to be. Johnson needs to go back to fighting on ESPN FNF and forget about fighting the big boys, he's just not competitive. Bute needs to fight one of the other top Super-mids, Froch, Kessler, Ward, et al, enough with the 'cans.

Bute seemsed a class above the other guys JOhnson has faced. Even against Dawson, Tarver, Froch, etc..., he has been in the fights and they were very competitive and close. This wasn't. Johnson finally got old, Bute was better than the other guys, or most likely, it was a combination of the two.

Johnson didnt get old over night. He looked far worse against Froch in the last few rounds. Bute was very hesitant to mix it up against a man that wasnt really fighting back, imagine how scared hed be if Froch was swinging at him! From what I saw last night, all Bute has is the to the body.

Duke McKenzie was doing my head in, hes like Bunce the way he overreacts to stuff. Bute would miss a combination and hed say Bute was ally dominating and piling the pressure on, when in fact it was Johnson whos punches has landed ( what there were of them).

We saw Bute struggle to figure out how to get through to Johnson, Froch hurt Glen a few times. I think Glen was intimidated by Butes speed and did cover a bit more but Bute didnt try to open him up at all! It wasnt a fantastic display by any means

Maybe we watched different fights. I saw Bute win every single round. I saw a fight that wasn't even remotely close. When I saw Johnson face Froch, Johnson was close the whole night. When you look at the two performances, Bute's easily was much, much better.

[ross]

What I mean is Johnson did nothing. Against Froch, he did and paid for it. He was taking a beating compared to what anyone else including Bute has done to him since Hopkins. The Green fight maybe gave him a bit more confidence in his ability at this stage than he should have had, especially at this weight and the realisation hit in the Froch fight and he fought alot more conservatively because of it from the get go in this fight. I saw that Bute is too hesitant and he will be a lot more hesitant when he again ups the level of competition. Like they said last night, Johnson is the best fighter he has come across as yet and I think much like Dawson against Pascal, when he faces someone who will fight back and hit and hurt him and cou ter his speed, it will be a shock to the system.

[Rantcatrat]

What I mean is Johnson did nothing. Against Froch, he did and paid for it. He was taking a beating compared to what anyone else including Bute has done to him since Hopkins. The Green fight maybe gave him a bit more confidence in his ability at this stage than he should have had, especially at this weight and the realisation hit in the Froch fight and he fought alot more conservatively because of it from the get go in this fight. I saw that Bute is too hesitant and he will be a lot more hesitant when he again ups the level of competition. Like they said last night, Johnson is the best fighter he has come across as yet and I think much like Dawson against Pascal, when he faces someone who will fight back and hit and hurt him and cou ter his speed, it will be a shock to the system.

Are you serious? Johnson did nothing as you put it because he was afraid to open up and Bute kept Johnson at his range the whole night. It's ridiculous not to give him credit right now. He completed dominated Glen Johnson. Glen Johnson fought well in his last two fights and Glen had no answer for Bute. There were quite a few posters on this board who picked Johnson to beat Bute. When Bute fights Froch next, which is my bet, you and I are sigbetting my friend.

[ICB]

What I mean is Johnson did nothing. Against Froch, he did and paid for it. He was taking a beating compared to what anyone else including Bute has done to him since Hopkins. The Green fight maybe gave him a bit more confidence in his ability at this stage than he should have had, especially at this weight and the realisation hit in the Froch fight and he fought alot more conservatively because of it from the get go in this fight. I saw that Bute is too hesitant and he will be a lot more hesitant when he again ups the level of competition. Like they said last night, Johnson is the best fighter he has come across as yet and I think much like Dawson against Pascal, when he faces someone who will fight back and hit and hurt him and cou ter his speed, it will be a shock to the system.

Glen Johnson stunned Carl Froch a few times with right hands, and atleast won 4 or 5 rounds he never took a beating. Against Lucian Bute he won 0 rounds and was completely dominated, Lucian Bute looked alot better against Glen Johnson.

Lucian Bute probably could of stopped Glen Johnson, but he showed him respect and let the old warrior go the distance. It reminded me Mike McCallum vs RJJ actually.

I actually think Lucian Bute will stop Carl Froch, Lucian Bute hits pretty hard upstairs and downstairs. And Carl Froch is pretty easy to hit with the style he has, and remember he can be hurt and outboxed see the Dirrell, Taylor, fights.

[Beanz]

Have to say Bute was very cautious and used his magic wand twirly jab style well to keep Johnson off balance. Consequently i also found it an almost mind numbingly boring experience and think until Bute shares a ring with Froch,Ward,Kessler or someone of a similar level the jury is still out. I can see his ability to counter punch deserting him the first time a quick, fit fighter with a half decent chin rushes him. Johnson was just not fast enough to get inside and rough Bute up a bit but like i said Jury is out. Bute's ring entrance was a bit surreal like something out of the nutcracker suite.

[Gandalf]

This fight was disappointing, but then it figured to be. Johnson needs to go back to fighting on ESPN FNF and forget about fighting the big boys, he's just not competitive. Bute needs to fight one of the other top Super-mids, Froch, Kessler, Ward, et al, enough with the 'cans.

Bute seemsed a class above the other guys JOhnson has faced. Even against Dawson, Tarver, Froch, etc..., he has been in the fights and they were very competitive and close. This wasn't. Johnson finally got old, Bute was better than the other guys, or most likely, it was a combination of the two.

The difference here is that Johnson is so much older still and more so as compared with his LHW days. He seems weak and ineffective at SMW.

Bute handpicked him and looked decent doing so, but I wouldn't go overboard on the win.

[Hulk]

Did you guys watch the post fight interview ?

Glen Johnson thought HE WON !!!!

[Mars_ax]

Did you guys watch the post fight interview ?

Glen Johnson thought HE WON !!!!

He's getting senile.

[Hulk]

Did you guys watch the post fight interview ?

Glen Johnson thought HE WON !!!!

He's getting senile.

hahaha

Thats what I was sayin.

But, seriously I just think Johnson was too proud to admit how badly he lost that fight. He was hesitant to mix it up and get caught, and no matter what he says I just do not think 168 lbs suits him that well.

Lots of praise and respect to Johnson, but he should not be fighting at the elite level at least not at 168 lbs. I feel he can still beat guys like Yusaf Mack and Allen Green, just not the very elite.

[Mars_ax]

Did you guys watch the post fight interview ?

Glen Johnson thought HE WON !!!!

He's getting senile.

hahaha

Thats what I was sayin.

But, seriously I just think Johnson was too proud to admit how badly he lost that fight. He was hesitant to mix it up and get caught, and no matter what he says I just do not think 168 lbs suits him that well.

Lots of praise and respect to Johnson, but he should not be fighting at the elite level at least not at 168 lbs. I feel he can still beat guys like Yusaf Mack and Allen Green, just not the very elite.

Fer sure, Glenn looks to be in remarkable shape for a pug his age, but he comes up short when he fights at the championship level.

[Rantcatrat]

This fight was disappointing, but then it figured to be. Johnson needs to go back to fighting on ESPN FNF and forget about fighting the big boys, he's just not competitive. Bute needs to fight one of the other top Super-mids, Froch, Kessler, Ward, et al, enough with the 'cans.

Bute seemsed a class above the other guys JOhnson has faced. Even against Dawson, Tarver, Froch, etc..., he has been in the fights and they were very competitive and close. This wasn't. Johnson finally got old, Bute was better than the other guys, or most likely, it was a combination of the two.

The difference here is that Johnson is so much older still and more so as compared with his LHW days. He seems weak and ineffective at SMW.

Bute handpicked him and looked decent doing so, but I wouldn't go overboard on the win.

Froch fought him a few months ago and Johnson didn't look old there. One judge had that fight a draw. How did Bute handpick him? He offered a fight to Kessler and Pavlik who turned down the offers. Johnson finished third in the Super Six. He knocked Allan Green out at 168 and as i mentioned he took Froch to a close fight. The two ahead of him are fighting in December. Who else would you have preferred him fight?