Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

[FinitoElDinamita]

I agree with Miles 100% on this thread..

Ward is not on Calzaghe's level..

He's more like a blend of John Ruiz, Hopkins, and Ricky Hatton...

I dont know how anyone could compare him to Roy Jones... lmfao really??

Roy and Ward are like night and day.. They have nothing in common except for the fact that Ward did try to emulate Roy's style very early in his career.. We're talking the days when he got rocked by Darnell Boone.. lol

He's better off with his new wrestling style though cuz it works real well.. He's like the new Hopkins in a sense that he's an illusionist who makes people believe he's a better fighter than he really is..

[BIG H]

The current version of Ward vs the 2007 version of Calzaghe = 50/50 fight imo.

[Rantcatrat]

I agree with Miles 100% on this thread..

Ward is not on Calzaghe's level..

He's more like a blend of John Ruiz, Hopkins, and Ricky Hatton...

I dont know how anyone could compare him to Roy Jones... lmfao really??

Roy and Ward are like night and day.. They have nothing in common except for the fact that Ward did try to emulate Roy's style very early in his career.. We're talking the days when he got rocked by Darnell Boone.. lol

He's better off with his new wrestling style though cuz it works real well.. He's like the new Hopkins in a sense that he's an illusionist who makes people believe he's a better fighter than he really is..

This is a good post although I'll wait to see with how good Ward can get. He may perfect his style and at that point he could be very tough to beat.

[Dia bando]

Calzaghe to fast for Ward ,have you seen anybody out box Joe no,
I no one thing Ward, could not out box him, as for Froch, he is game
but is one-dimensional to me a bit of a plodder.

[Dark Lord Al]

Calzaghe to fast for Ward ,have you seen anybody out box Joe no,
I no one thing Ward, could not out box him, as for Froch, he is game
but is one-dimensional to me a bit of a plodder.

Who has come close to outboxing Ward ?

[Pugilistic]

I think the only fighters who could potentially beat Ward right now are Bute or Andre Dirrell (if he's the same after returning from layoff) but even still you would have to favor Ward in both those matchups based on his versatility.

Calzaghe would of beaten Ward in my opinion prime for prime. Ward tired late in the fight against Froch who wasn't really throwing or landing many punches. Calzaghe with his workrate would certainly test Wards conditioning.

I think Ward would be tricky for Joe in the first few rounds but then Calzaghe starts to get his rhythm going then ups the workrate eventually outworking Ward down the stretch.

I don't get the comparsions with Ward and Jones or Floyd,etc.

Andre Ward right now reminds me of an older Hopkins with a slightly higher workrate.

Ward like an older Hopkins picks his punches well and utilizes all his tools whether it be on the inside or outside.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I think the only fighters who could potentially beat Ward right now are Bute or Andre Dirrell (if he's the same after returning from layoff) but even still you would have to favor Ward in both those matchups based on his versatility.

Calzaghe would of beaten Ward in my opinion prime for prime. Ward tired late in the fight against Froch who wasn't really throwing or landing many punches. Calzaghe with his workrate would certainly test Wards conditioning.

I think Ward would be tricky for Joe in the first few rounds but then Calzaghe starts to get his rhythm going then ups the workrate eventually outworking Ward down the stretch.

I don't get the comparsions with Ward and Jones or Floyd,etc.

Andre Ward right now reminds me of an older Hopkins with a slightly higher workrate.

Ward like an older Hopkins picks his punches well and utilizes all his tools whether it be on the inside or outside.

Floyd & Andre have a very similar bag of tricks when on the inside.

[Althugz]

I dont over rate Ward at all. Froch sucks..he has no ring intelligence but can bang and has great stamina/chin.

But again..its easy for Calzaghe not to be a pussy when he's in the ring against shit opposition...he's a pussy for not fighting anybody of note in their prime.

For me Hopkins won the Calzaghe fight and almost every single boxer/trainer i spoke to felt the same. Ward would know exactly how to negate Calzaghe wild bitch slaps.

But like the poster after me said..no point discussing it now when he's retired..aka..PUSSY

Thats the last I speak on Joe the shite waste of talent Calzaghe

[erics44]

I dont over rate Ward at all. Froch sucks..he has no ring intelligence but can bang and has great stamina/chin.

But again..its easy for Calzaghe not to be a pussy when he's in the ring against shit opposition...he's a pussy for not fighting anybody of note in their prime.

For me Hopkins won the Calzaghe fight and almost every single boxer/trainer i spoke to felt the same. Ward would know exactly how to negate Calzaghe wild bitch slaps.

But like the poster after me said..no point discussing it now when he's retired..aka..PUSSY

Thats the last I speak on Joe the shite waste of talent Calzaghe

hopkins didnt beat calzaghe, the only issue i have with that fight was it was a split decision

Hopkins clearly won the first 4 rounds, with the knockdown he was 5 up

calzaghe clearly won the last 8

but at least the right man got the decision

you are obviously very down on him for some reason so theres not much point in having a argument about it with you

but to say froch sucks is a bit harsh, look at the two fighters routes to the final, froch has been brilliant for boxing and has made the super six a success despite losing the final

What would have happened if Froch woulnt have been in the competition? who would have made the final? what if Ward would have had to do the travelling that some of the other fighters did?

[Gandalf]

I have done a couple of polls on who people thought won between Hopkins and Calzaghe and Calzaghe always wins by a considerable margin. He outlanded Hopkins something silly.

And let's not pretend that that was Calzaghe at his best either. Withered hands and a high energy fighter at 36? Calzaghe was on the slide too, but he was still far too much for a savvy Hopkins. He always would have been as the younger Calzaghe would have hurt Hopkins more.

So Froch sucks and yet why did he win 3 rounds against Ward? Was it charity? Are we suggesting that Froch is in any comparable to the unorthodox, high output style of Calzaghe? It's nonsense and an obvious extension that Ward be taken into deep waters and lose a lot more rounds. I couldn't see him winning rounds against Calzaghe TBH. Early on for sure, but once the adjustments are made and Calzaghe is set on what he needs to do, Ward is done for.

Ward has beaten nobody that Calzaghe couldn't beat better. Ward is a novice and has so much more to do.

And Calzaghe did face in their prime fighters. Everyone overseas was saying Lacy would destroy Joe. Kessler was supposedly a pick 'em fight. Hindsight means those opponents are discounted, but pre injury Lacy was better than people say. Kessler was undefeated and hungry.

Wards biggest win is Kessler and Calzaghe beat him much more impressively.

[Althugz]

I need make no further points as I said in my last post..you guys make all the points for me! Apart from prime Kessler, Lacy is Calzaghes biggest win..lmao listen to yourselves...

[erics44]

I need make no further points as I said in my last post..you guys make all the points for me! Apart from prime Kessler, Lacy is Calzaghes biggest win..lmao listen to yourselves...

IMO hopkins has turned out to be calzaghes best win

It was a clear victory over a man who has fought at the top level for years and has had some of his best wins right at the very top since losing to Calzaghe

hopkins has lost before but never as convincingly as Calzaghe beat him