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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

    Hopkins, as 160-pound champion, has a better resume than Calzaghe as 168-pound champion.. The "far worse resume" bit is nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX View Post
    Hopkins, as 160-pound champion, has a better resume than Calzaghe as 168-pound champion.. The "far worse resume" bit is nonsense.
    Until he started beating up the little guys, i.e his first 18 or so defences, who did he fight that was higher rated/revered than Kessler or Lacy as 2 examples? Go to Boxrec and look at that list of bums and tell me there any better than the people JC fought. B-Hop and RJJ will go down as ATGs, but their records (there you go Eric you koont ) during their prime yeaers are filled with fighters at a very similar level to those on JC's record. I would say that is pretty undisputable!
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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX View Post
    Hopkins, as 160-pound champion, has a better resume than Calzaghe as 168-pound champion.. The "far worse resume" bit is nonsense.
    Until he started beating up the little guys, i.e his first 18 or so defences, who did he fight that was higher rated/revered than Kessler or Lacy as 2 examples? Go to Boxrec and look at that list of bums and tell me there any better than the people JC fought. B-Hop and RJJ will go down as ATGs, but their records (there you go Eric you koont ) during their prime yeaers are filled with fighters at a very similar level to those on JC's record. I would say that is pretty undisputable!
    Well said Big H, thing is the top fighter never fight each other week in week out.?
    never has happened never will?
    All the great fighter's, and not so great one's have fought, there bum's s so with all
    fighter's we can say there opponent's have not all been top quality.?

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX View Post
    Hopkins, as 160-pound champion, has a better resume than Calzaghe as 168-pound champion.. The "far worse resume" bit is nonsense.
    Until he started beating up the little guys, i.e his first 18 or so defences, who did he fight that was higher rated/revered than Kessler or Lacy as 2 examples? Go to Boxrec and look at that list of bums and tell me there any better than the people JC fought. B-Hop and RJJ will go down as ATGs, but their records (there you go Eric you koont ) during their prime yeaers are filled with fighters at a very similar level to those on JC's record. I would say that is pretty undisputable!
    I do find it funny how Felix Trinidad is considered a little guy now since he lost the fight. Yet that wasn't the case going into the Hopkins fight. Hell he was actually favored to beat Hopkins. But I see the need to bad mouth Hopkins resume....record is so great he must be referred as a little guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX View Post
    Hopkins, as 160-pound champion, has a better resume than Calzaghe as 168-pound champion.. The "far worse resume" bit is nonsense.
    Until he started beating up the little guys, i.e his first 18 or so defences, who did he fight that was higher rated/revered than Kessler or Lacy as 2 examples? Go to Boxrec and look at that list of bums and tell me there any better than the people JC fought. B-Hop and RJJ will go down as ATGs, but their records (there you go Eric you koont ) during their prime yeaers are filled with fighters at a very similar level to those on JC's record. I would say that is pretty undisputable!
    I do find it funny how Felix Trinidad is considered a little guy now since he lost the fight. Yet that wasn't the case going into the Hopkins fight. Hell he was actually favored to beat Hopkins. But I see the need to bad mouth Hopkins resume....record is so great he must be referred as a little guy
    Trinidad was favourite, becuase Hopkins hadn't fought anybody!! Nobody knew what would happen when he foguht a truly world class fighter.

    Credit to him, he was awesome and took Tito apart, but this ins't about how good he is/was, it's about the fact that his record at MW through his reign is littered with names comparable with those on Calzaghe's record. Even you can't try and make a case that Hopkins' opposition was anything other than average prior to Tito?
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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX View Post
    Hopkins, as 160-pound champion, has a better resume than Calzaghe as 168-pound champion.. The "far worse resume" bit is nonsense.
    Until he started beating up the little guys, i.e his first 18 or so defences, who did he fight that was higher rated/revered than Kessler or Lacy as 2 examples? Go to Boxrec and look at that list of bums and tell me there any better than the people JC fought. B-Hop and RJJ will go down as ATGs, but their records (there you go Eric you koont ) during their prime yeaers are filled with fighters at a very similar level to those on JC's record. I would say that is pretty undisputable!
    I do find it funny how Felix Trinidad is considered a little guy now since he lost the fight. Yet that wasn't the case going into the Hopkins fight. Hell he was actually favored to beat Hopkins. But I see the need to bad mouth Hopkins resume....record is so great he must be referred as a little guy
    Trinidad was favourite, becuase Hopkins hadn't fought anybody!! Nobody knew what would happen when he foguht a truly world class fighter.

    Credit to him, he was awesome and took Tito apart, but this ins't about how good he is/was, it's about the fact that his record at MW through his reign is littered with names comparable with those on Calzaghe's record. Even you can't try and make a case that Hopkins' opposition was anything other than average prior to Tito?
    Hopkins's list of opponents may be "comparable," but it's clearly better. Most of Hopkins's defenses were against legitimate top-10 contenders. Most of Calzaghe's were not.

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX View Post
    Hopkins, as 160-pound champion, has a better resume than Calzaghe as 168-pound champion.. The "far worse resume" bit is nonsense.
    Until he started beating up the little guys, i.e his first 18 or so defences, who did he fight that was higher rated/revered than Kessler or Lacy as 2 examples? Go to Boxrec and look at that list of bums and tell me there any better than the people JC fought. B-Hop and RJJ will go down as ATGs, but their records (there you go Eric you koont ) during their prime yeaers are filled with fighters at a very similar level to those on JC's record. I would say that is pretty undisputable!
    I do find it funny how Felix Trinidad is considered a little guy now since he lost the fight. Yet that wasn't the case going into the Hopkins fight. Hell he was actually favored to beat Hopkins. But I see the need to bad mouth Hopkins resume....record is so great he must be referred as a little guy
    Trinidad was favourite, becuase Hopkins hadn't fought anybody!! Nobody knew what would happen when he foguht a truly world class fighter.

    Credit to him, he was awesome and took Tito apart, but this ins't about how good he is/was, it's about the fact that his record at MW through his reign is littered with names comparable with those on Calzaghe's record. Even you can't try and make a case that Hopkins' opposition was anything other than average prior to Tito?
    After becoming IBF champion and before he faced Trinidad, I see only 3 names he shouldn't have faced. Steve Frank, Simon Brown and William James. Frank was garbage. Simon was ancient. And James was unworthy. Other than that his opposition isn't outstanding but it surely ain't terrible

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