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    Default Re: Post your list in this thread prior to arguing with someone else's

    Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    The fuck? Nicolay Valuev

    The only list regarding anything dealing with heavyweight boxers and "all-time" status that Valuev is at the top of the list for is "Largest Heavyweight Boxers of All-Time"....and I'm betting in his day Butterbean could beat him.
    Valuev would have slapped Butterbean out / in2 submission like he did Monte Barrett .
    Seemingly u never heard nor even watched d SNV doublepunch .
    Valuev and Wladimir had 3 common opponents : Haye , McCline , Barrett .
    Valuev did better at least against 2 of them .
    Arguably vs all 3 .
    Never stopped , never down as far as i know .
    Valuev actually tried 2 keep his opponents' health and well being most of d time at least until he felt angered / hurt / threatened .

    Valuev doesn't have his Schmelling & Markegiano / Puritty , Sanders & Brewster .
    He doesn't even have a Byrd & Lewis .

    Also , i believe that he would have been 2 tall 2b reached full force by most and 2 big and strong 4 most .

    He is 1 of d very few it's hard 2 imagine getting stopped by any1 and i can c him stopping almost every1 if he fought 4eal .

    Valuev was not 4eal because he did not want 2 keal .
    OK... This guy is clearly doing a Fantana...

    Duh way he types m4kes me reed in duh voyce of a retard.

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    Default Re: Post your list in this thread prior to arguing with someone else's

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post

    OK... This guy is clearly doing a Fantana...
    i know what u mean by this , IDK whether he is serious or not , but i m serious and my reasoning is posted 4 every1 2 read and is correct .
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Duh way he types m4kes me reed in duh voyce of a retard.
    i thought it's d norm here

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    Default Re: Post your list in this thread prior to arguing with someone else's

    While Frankie's list of top all-time heavyweights is certainly admirable, I have a list of my own. I only did the top 5, although it was tough to choose from so many worthy names out there. These can probably be interchanged as far as the order is concerned:

    1. Charley Retzlaff - Ended with a pretty respectable 61-8 record, 52 by KO. Started 20-0 before a DQ loss to Antonio de la Mata, a loss he later avenged with a 1st round KO. In 1936 he suffered a 1st round TKO to then undefeated phenom Joe Louis, but probably softened him up, because Louis went on to lose his very next fight (1st defeat) to Max Schmeling. Charley also had a real cool nickname, the "Duluth Dynamiter".
    2. Fireman Jim Flynn - Don't go by his record (46-41-18, with 38 wins by KO). Flynn recorded the first ever and only 1st round KO victory over Jack Dempsey. A loss avenged by Dempsey in the same fashion later, but Flynn still holds that distinction. He also fought notables like: Gunboat Smith, Battling Levinsky, Young Hector, Sargeant Jack Lynch, and Battling Butch. He lost by KO-3 to Sam Langford (166-26-37) in 1923, but avenged that loss in 1924 by only losing by points this time around.
    3. Leroy Haynes - Again don't go by the record (45-23-3, with 35 KO's). He had two TKO wins over Primo Carnera (TKO-3 and TKO-9) in 1936. No small feat considering Primo outweighed Haynes by 65 pounds in both their fights. Haynes would've had a better record, but stayed too long and went 2-11 in his last 13 fights.
    4. Joe "The Hammer" Askew - This native of Sydney, Australia retired undefeated with a record of 9-0 (5 KO's). He holds the distinction of defeating Samuel Panetu, a fighter weighing well over 500 pounds. He proceeded to then tear through 8 other opponents and cut a swath through the division between 1999 and 2001.
    5. Frank Finnegan - Speaking of heavyweights, Big Frank weighed in at around 465 pounds. Finnegan also retired undefeated, with a record of 3-0 (1 KO), all in 2001.

    There's more deserving names out there... but I feel I should probably also come up with a top p4p list, although it probably won't be as good as Frankie's.

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