Mike Tyson prime vs David tua prime

[TitoFan]

Fuck off...

Name 9 other heavies who would be a favourite to beat the Tyson that beat Spinks

Just 9? I mean 9 guys to beat a "Prime Tyson" doesn't necessarily mean these guys are all Top 10 Heavyweights of All-Time, but here it goes: Ali, Foreman, Holyfield, Lewis, Louis, Vitali, Holmes, Mercer, Bowe, Frazier, and personally I think Ernie Terrell would do a number on old Mike too

When you got to "Mercer" you were reaching, and then it only went downhill from there.

[El Kabong]

When you got to "Mercer" you were reaching, and then it only went downhill from there.

Really? I mean let's check what Ray had that could trouble Tyson. A good jab (check), a granite chin (check), good power (check), and he was not easily bullied. Now sure Ray had an inconsistent career but the Ray Mercer that demolished Tommy Morrison and the Ray Mercer that went toe to toe with Lennox Lewis WOULD beat Mike Tyson, I'm sorry but that's just the way I see it. Ray had everything to beat Tyson in his arsenal.

Sonny Liston could be added to the list as well, he handled Floyd Patterson REALLY easily, I'm sure Tyson would last longer, but how much longer is the question.

I didn't mention Wladimir not because I don't think he could beat Tyson on his night, I mean he obviously could (and Tyson could do the same to Wlad, I admit as much), but I did not want people thinking I'm just hating on Tyson. I'm not just hating, I like Mike Tyson he was very fun to watch fight, he's an intriguing fellow but I'm realistic about his greatness.

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Rays power wasnt that great. Morrisons chin wasnt that great. Mercer would never have done what Tyson did to Holmes, he also couldnt hurt Lewis even though he landed a fair few shots, so he doesnt even hit as hard as Mikes old sparring partner

[El Kabong]

Rays power wasnt that great. Morrisons chin wasnt that great. Mercer would never have done what Tyson did to Holmes, he also couldnt hurt Lewis even though he landed a fair few shots, so he doesnt even hit as hard as Mikes old sparring partner

Erroneous...Buster Douglas was not a huge puncher but he outlasted Tyson and why Because he was bigger and made Tyson work for everything he got. I stand by my picks

[Kirkland Laing]

Rays power wasnt that great. Morrisons chin wasnt that great. Mercer would never have done what Tyson did to Holmes, he also couldnt hurt Lewis even though he landed a fair few shots, so he doesnt even hit as hard as Mikes old sparring partner

Erroneous...Buster Douglas was not a huge puncher but he outlasted Tyson and why Because he was bigger and made Tyson work for everything he got. I stand by my picks

When Tyson got to Tokyo to fight Douglas he was weakened by various medications to treat "several" STDs he was carrying, he hadn't trained for the fight and was thirty pounds overweight. King's people put him in the sauna for a week to try and get him looking relatively normal so he wouldn't look like a big fat bastard on fight night. He was ignoring his trainers and his corner was shambolic, they were using a condom filled with water because they didn't have an icepack. Etc etc.

If a remotely close to fit/prime Tyson had turned up the fight would have been over a lot faster than Holyfield-Douglas was.

[El Kabong]

When Tyson got to Tokyo to fight Douglas he was weakened by various medications to treat "several" STDs he was carrying, he hadn't trained for the fight and was thirty pounds overweight. King's people put him in the sauna for a week to try and get him looking relatively normal so he wouldn't look like a big fat bastard on fight night. He was ignoring his trainers and his corner was shambolic, they were using a condom filled with water because they didn't have an icepack. Etc etc.

If a remotely close to fit/prime Tyson had turned up the fight would have been over a lot faster than Holyfield-Douglas was.

If we're talking about a PRIME Tyson then we aren't worried about the Douglas fight is what I'm saying

[Master]

When you got to "Mercer" you were reaching, and then it only went downhill from there.

Really? I mean let's check what Ray had that could trouble Tyson. A good jab (check), a granite chin (check), good power (check), and he was not easily bullied. Now sure Ray had an inconsistent career but the Ray Mercer that demolished Tommy Morrison and the Ray Mercer that went toe to toe with Lennox Lewis WOULD beat Mike Tyson, I'm sorry but that's just the way I see it. Ray had everything to beat Tyson in his arsenal.

Sonny Liston could be added to the list as well, he handled Floyd Patterson REALLY easily, I'm sure Tyson would last longer, but how much longer is the question.

I didn't mention Wladimir not because I don't think he could beat Tyson on his night, I mean he obviously could (and Tyson could do the same to Wlad, I admit as much), but I did not want people thinking I'm just hating on Tyson. I'm not just hating, I like Mike Tyson he was very fun to watch fight, he's an intriguing fellow but I'm realistic about his greatness.

OK reasonable reply about Mercer but he was knocked down by Holyfield by a left hook and as great as his chin was, Tyson could have stopped him.

[Master]

When you got to "Mercer" you were reaching, and then it only went downhill from there.

Really? I mean let's check what Ray had that could trouble Tyson. A good jab (check), a granite chin (check), good power (check), and he was not easily bullied. Now sure Ray had an inconsistent career but the Ray Mercer that demolished Tommy Morrison and the Ray Mercer that went toe to toe with Lennox Lewis WOULD beat Mike Tyson, I'm sorry but that's just the way I see it. Ray had everything to beat Tyson in his arsenal.

Sonny Liston could be added to the list as well, he handled Floyd Patterson REALLY easily, I'm sure Tyson would last longer, but how much longer is the question.

I didn't mention Wladimir not because I don't think he could beat Tyson on his night, I mean he obviously could (and Tyson could do the same to Wlad, I admit as much), but I did not want people thinking I'm just hating on Tyson. I'm not just hating, I like Mike Tyson he was very fun to watch fight, he's an intriguing fellow but I'm realistic about his greatness.

Beautiful post and so objectively true. To say Tua or Mercer could beat a prime Tyson need shooting.

[brocktonblockbust]

the tyson that beat Spinks and Berbick and Holmes was unbeatable.

[TitoFan]

the tyson that beat Spinks and Berbick and Holmes was unbeatable.

Are you kidding? There's gotta be 20 bums out there that could've taken Tyson in his prime. Matter of fact... I'm waiting for Lyle to dredge up 20 more "no-names" that could've done the job. All they needed was a decent jab.... right Lyle?

But he's not a Tyson hater. No-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o.
Hell... Tyson wasn't even fit to carry Wlad's jockstrap.

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the tyson that beat Spinks and Berbick and Holmes was unbeatable.

Are you kidding? There's gotta be 20 bums out there that could've taken Tyson in his prime. Matter of fact... I'm waiting for Lyle to dredge up 20 more "no-names" that could've done the job. All they needed was a decent jab.... right Lyle?

But he's not a Tyson hater. No-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o.
Hell... Tyson wasn't even fit to carry Wlad's jockstrap.

Its all Bullshit. When Mike wasnt being distracted by King and Givens he was on his way to matching the regard that Ali has. He was completely dominant and there was not one fighter around that stood any kind of chance with him because he excelled in so many aspects of boxing. He wasnt like Lewis or Holyfield or Wlad where people held their breath for when a big puncher landed on their chin (Holyfield was regarded as chinny back then).

People will not give him credit for the Holmes fight but I believe even that version of Holmes there isnt another fighter ever that could have done what Tyson did to him that night.

[El Kabong]

the tyson that beat Spinks and Berbick and Holmes was unbeatable.

Are you kidding? There's gotta be 20 bums out there that could've taken Tyson in his prime. Matter of fact... I'm waiting for Lyle to dredge up 20 more "no-names" that could've done the job. All they needed was a decent jab.... right Lyle?

But he's not a Tyson hater. No-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o.
Hell... Tyson wasn't even fit to carry Wlad's jockstrap.

Did I say that? Did I come close to saying that? No I didn't so don't try and misrepresent what I've posted.

As for all a guy needing is a "decent jab" to beat Tyson, no that's only a part of it, but I won't bother telling you anything else because you wouldn't read my explination anyway because you're a habitual shit stirrer.....don't care about facts, don't care about reasoning and being rational, you just care about stirring shit up and frankly I'm quite tired of you.

[TitoFan]

the tyson that beat Spinks and Berbick and Holmes was unbeatable.

Are you kidding? There's gotta be 20 bums out there that could've taken Tyson in his prime. Matter of fact... I'm waiting for Lyle to dredge up 20 more "no-names" that could've done the job. All they needed was a decent jab.... right Lyle?

But he's not a Tyson hater. No-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o.
Hell... Tyson wasn't even fit to carry Wlad's jockstrap.

Did I say that? Did I come close to saying that? No I didn't so don't try and misrepresent what I've posted.

As for all a guy needing is a "decent jab" to beat Tyson, no that's only a part of it, but I won't bother telling you anything else because you wouldn't read my explination anyway because you're a habitual shit stirrer.....don't care about facts, don't care about reasoning and being rational, you just care about stirring shit up and frankly I'm quite tired of you.

Lighten up. I won't bother dredging up all the posts you've made discrediting Tyson and his career and his accomplishments because frankly it's too much work. I've seen how you get completely defensive about Wlad and any notion that Tyson might even have a chance against him. Then... when backed into a corner, you throw Tyson a bone and concede he might have a chance to beat Wlad if Wlad has one hand tied behind his back, is battling an intestinal bug, and Tyson can use the corner stool.

And spare me your temper tantrum.
I'm hardly the only guy on here you have regular scraps with.

You just don't like differing viewpoints, is all.

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Some say tyson had douglas down on the canvas for ten seconds anyway...wonder how that would have changed history.
Tyson was out of it by then anyway.
Just think what sort of fighter he would have been if cus was still alive.