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I'm not the world's biggest Tyson fan, Lyle. You're barking up the wrong tree. I just cringe when I see you write that any number of mediocre heavyweights of the past years could've beaten a prime Mike Tyson. You're so defensive of Wlad... that sometimes that can carry to being dismissive of other great heavyweights of the past.
I'm defensive of Wlad because he too is a great fighter and people are slow to respect fighters that are still fighting. When people try to tell me that the bums from other eras would beat Wladimir #1 It's wrong and #2 it's disrespectful.

When I listed the boxers I thought could beat Tyson I was respectful and I was thoughtful. If people want to consider Ray Mercer a "bum" then fine, he certainly wasn't but whatever. Ray had a very inconsistent career but at one point in time do I think he had the skills & abilities to handle Mike Tyson? YES. Ray Mercer really pushed Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield, he had a chin, he had good fundamentals and he'd be around for 12 rounds vs Tyson who after about 5 rounds would start to show some wear because the pressure fighting style plus the power punching is taxing on stamina.


You didn't stop at Mercer, Lyle.



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Fuck off...

Name 9 other heavies who would be a favourite to beat the Tyson that beat Spinks
Just 9? I mean 9 guys to beat a "Prime Tyson" doesn't necessarily mean these guys are all Top 10 Heavyweights of All-Time, but here it goes: Ali, Foreman, Holyfield, Lewis, Louis, Vitali, Holmes, Mercer, Bowe, Frazier, and personally I think Ernie Terrell would do a number on old Mike too
So I have a couple questions #1 which do you disagree with ? #2 how is saying Tyson would lose to those guys disrespectful?

Bert Sugar said Wladimir Klitschko would lose to Primo Carnera...THAT is disrespectful

Lyle.............. Bowe?? You know how you've slagged on Bowe (and I've been right behind you).
THAT, Lyle.... is disrespectful.

Ernie Terrell? C'mon, man.

And no disrespect to the great Smokin' Joe, but Frazier? Tyson murders even a prime Frazier inside of 5 rounds. Joe never got hit with anything like what Tyson would have to offer, at least not from Ali. And Foreman? Foreman was big and powerful... but his punches were slower and more telegraphed. Tyson would've landed a powerful combo on Joe's head faster than you could blink.

Again, I'm not the world's biggest Tyson fan..... but give the guy his just due.