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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez Tells Pacquiao To His Face Floyd Would Kick His Ass On ESPN F

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    The difference between pac and floyd is purely boxing.

    Pac has to fight marquez 4 times over a period of so many years and still cant win a clear decison over an old fighter.

    There is no need for floyd to fight marquez ever again as it was so clear the domination.

    If its close again, its the leg cramp excuse.
    Pac ducks bradley to fight an old marquez..boxing stinks.
    If you want to judge them by common opponents then Manny is above Floyd.

    He beat Cotto, Hatton, Oscar and Mosley more impressively than Floyd did.

    Having close fights with a great like Marquez is nothing to be ashamed about. Floyd had two close fights with Castillo, arguably losing the first in many peoples eyes.
    I think the hatton, oscar cotto and moseley that floyd fought were at a far better stage and weight as when they fought manny.

    Obviously, im going to side with floyd and dont want to hijack the thread by talking about manny and floyds opponents but you wisely brought them up.

    Floyd:-

    Hatton-undefeated.(was never the same after floyd)

    Oscar-his weight, his ring, his gloves, his rules.

    Mosely:- after beating margacheato, no one wanted to fight him, even offered to do a catchweight with manny.

    Cotto:- at his weight and not after a loss.

    Weight makes all the difference.

    Manny is great fighter but those common opponents were all at a disadvantage when fighting manny.
    Weight makes all the difference?

    Manny fought Marquez at 126, 130 and both weighing 142.

    Floyd fought Marquez once at welterweight with a big size advantage. Marquez dropped back to 135 immediately following the fight.

    Clearly Marquez had a big disadvantage against Floyd, so comparing Pac/Floyd where Marquez is concerned is pointless?
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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez Tells Pacquiao To His Face Floyd Would Kick His Ass On ESPN F

    @Fenster and @imp - there's arguments on both sides, as to who did better against common opposition.

    I like Floyd over Manny. Styles make fights. Bottom line. It's tired though at this point. That said, I would prefer to see Sergio Martinez against Floyd at 154, or above.

    Guerrero for Floyd, and Rios for Manny, neither fight does much for me.

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez Tells Pacquiao To His Face Floyd Would Kick His Ass On ESPN F

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    The difference between pac and floyd is purely boxing.

    Pac has to fight marquez 4 times over a period of so many years and still cant win a clear decison over an old fighter.

    There is no need for floyd to fight marquez ever again as it was so clear the domination.

    If its close again, its the leg cramp excuse.
    Pac ducks bradley to fight an old marquez..boxing stinks.
    If you want to judge them by common opponents then Manny is above Floyd.

    He beat Cotto, Hatton, Oscar and Mosley more impressively than Floyd did.

    Having close fights with a great like Marquez is nothing to be ashamed about. Floyd had two close fights with Castillo, arguably losing the first in many peoples eyes.
    I think the hatton, oscar cotto and moseley that floyd fought were at a far better stage and weight as when they fought manny.

    Obviously, im going to side with floyd and dont want to hijack the thread by talking about manny and floyds opponents but you wisely brought them up.

    Floyd:-

    Hatton-undefeated.(was never the same after floyd)

    Oscar-his weight, his ring, his gloves, his rules.

    Mosely:- after beating margacheato, no one wanted to fight him, even offered to do a catchweight with manny.

    Cotto:- at his weight and not after a loss.

    Weight makes all the difference.

    Manny is great fighter but those common opponents were all at a disadvantage when fighting manny.
    Weight makes all the difference?

    Manny fought Marquez at 126, 130 and both weighing 142.

    Floyd fought Marquez once at welterweight with a big size advantage. Marquez dropped back to 135 immediately following the fight.

    Clearly Marquez had a big disadvantage against Floyd, so comparing Pac/Floyd where Marquez is concerned is pointless?
    Another Floyd will beat Manny in my opinion - boxing aside he's the bigger man, that's why Manny needed to fuck with catchweights.

    If he can't outbox them he'll outfight them and if they bigger and hydrated that's gonna be a lot tougher than the 'best p4p boxer' should find it.

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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez Tells Pacquiao To His Face Floyd Would Kick His Ass On ESPN F

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    The difference between pac and floyd is purely boxing.

    Pac has to fight marquez 4 times over a period of so many years and still cant win a clear decison over an old fighter.

    There is no need for floyd to fight marquez ever again as it was so clear the domination.

    If its close again, its the leg cramp excuse.
    Pac ducks bradley to fight an old marquez..boxing stinks.
    If you want to judge them by common opponents then Manny is above Floyd.

    He beat Cotto, Hatton, Oscar and Mosley more impressively than Floyd did.

    Having close fights with a great like Marquez is nothing to be ashamed about. Floyd had two close fights with Castillo, arguably losing the first in many peoples eyes.
    I think the hatton, oscar cotto and moseley that floyd fought were at a far better stage and weight as when they fought manny.

    Obviously, im going to side with floyd and dont want to hijack the thread by talking about manny and floyds opponents but you wisely brought them up.

    Floyd:-

    Hatton-undefeated.(was never the same after floyd)

    Oscar-his weight, his ring, his gloves, his rules.

    Mosely:- after beating margacheato, no one wanted to fight him, even offered to do a catchweight with manny.

    Cotto:- at his weight and not after a loss.

    Weight makes all the difference.

    Manny is great fighter but those common opponents were all at a disadvantage when fighting manny.
    Weight makes all the difference?

    Manny fought Marquez at 126, 130 and both weighing 142.

    Floyd fought Marquez once at welterweight with a big size advantage. Marquez dropped back to 135 immediately following the fight.

    Clearly Marquez had a big disadvantage against Floyd, so comparing Pac/Floyd where Marquez is concerned is pointless?
    Not to mention that Floyd couldn't even make his own weight.
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