Juan Manuel Marquez Tells Pacquiao To His Face Floyd Would Kick His Ass On ESPN First

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@imp

You originally said Manny needs a 4th attempt at beating Marquez whereas Floyd would never need to rematch him. That is true. However, you have to accept that, if you judge fighters by common opponents then everyone has to be brought into the mix.

Judging Floyd/Pac through Marquez makes Floyd look far superior. Judging Floyd/Pac through Cotto makes Pac look far superior.

I think using Marquez/Cotto to judge who is better between Floyd and Pac is ridiculous! Floyd brought Marquez up in weight and took full advantage. Pac brought Cotto down in weight and took full advantage. You can take it further...Floyd didn't make weight against Marquez...and Pac fought a Cotto that had not fully recovered both physically and psychologically from the Margo debacle. Floyd fought a bigger, better, healthier, more rejuvenated Cotto (not to mention much better coached). Pac has fought a prime Marquez at lower classes and a better suited Marquez at welterweight.

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@imp

You originally said Manny needs a 4th attempt at beating Marquez whereas Floyd would never need to rematch him. That is true. However, you have to accept that, if you judge fighters by common opponents then everyone has to be brought into the mix.

Judging Floyd/Pac through Marquez makes Floyd look far superior. Judging Floyd/Pac through Cotto makes Pac look far superior.

I think using Marquez/Cotto to judge who is better between Floyd and Pac is ridiculous! Floyd brought Marquez up in weight and took full advantage. Pac brought Cotto down in weight and took full advantage. You can take it further...Floyd didn't make weight against Marquez...and Pac fought a Cotto that had not fully recovered both physically and psychologically from the Margo debacle. Floyd fought a bigger, better, healthier, more rejuvenated Cotto (not to mention much better coached). Pac has fought a prime Marquez at lower classes and a better suited Marquez at welterweight.

Exactly.

You can make excuses for any fighter that's why I was sticking to pure fact.