Questions About Marquez Strength Trainer and PEDS Legit

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Seeing Marquez tonight brings up allot of questions. Now I am not a conspiracy theorist, actually in my line of work one only uses facts.

Marquez has never been so big and muscular, seeing him squat huge amounts of weight in the 24/7 episode was unreal.
Marquez has a known steroid peddler/manufacturer as his strength coach
This coach was hiding who he was by using an alias
This guy actually snitched on the athletes he was giving PEDS to, usually its the dealer who gets put on trial not the drug user. This shows the guy has no morals at all.

I think once a fighter brings in a known PED peddler onto his team then it's perfectly ok to be suspicious especially considering the character of this Angel Hernandez or whatever he wants to call himself now. Plus he seems to lie a lot by saying he is working with this group and that group to develop drug testing for boxing, when there is no evidence he is doing so. Here is an unusual lie he recently told:
"Heredia said he is going to meet with FDA special agent Jeff Novitzky, the man who broke the BALCO case, Thursday in Las Vegas and that Marquez will provide a blood and urine sample,Heredia portrayed it as evidence that he is cooperating and attempting to develop a program that could catch cheats in professional boxing. But Novitzky is a criminal investigator, not a man who would be setting testing protocols or even handling a blood or urine specimen." YahooSports

This is just an obvious lie and really brings up allot of questions. There are no pre-drug test screening for Marquez and Pacquiao so why would he be giving Marquez's blood and urine to anyone outside of the Nevada Athletic commission.

Those might want to say the same about Pacquiao, but its not the same thing. Pacquiao does not have a known PED peddler as a conditioning coach. I believe Marquez would do just about anything to get a win against his foe Pacquiao, just like Mosley was willing to do against De La Hoya and other fighters willing to do whatever to winexamples Margarito, Tarver, Vargas. Doing so would be easy for Marquez to rationalize it by thinking he was cheated out of the pat 3 fights with Pacqman.

I know I might get allot of shit for this, so go ahead and give it to me. By the way I am a big Marquez fan always have been. Thes are legit questions

I stopped reading after your first line. Because.... "actually in my line of work one only uses facts."

Ok then, if that is the case why the hugely speculatory (and massively unnecessary) post?

Marquez hasn't finish taking his post fight shower and he's accused of using PED's?

You sir, are an idiot.

[jbp23]

Seeing Marquez tonight brings up allot of questions. Now I am not a conspiracy theorist, actually in my line of work one only uses facts.

Marquez has never been so big and muscular, seeing him squat huge amounts of weight in the 24/7 episode was unreal.
Marquez has a known steroid peddler/manufacturer as his strength coach
This coach was hiding who he was by using an alias
This guy actually snitched on the athletes he was giving PEDS to, usually its the dealer who gets put on trial not the drug user. This shows the guy has no morals at all.

I think once a fighter brings in a known PED peddler onto his team then it's perfectly ok to be suspicious especially considering the character of this Angel Hernandez or whatever he wants to call himself now. Plus he seems to lie a lot by saying he is working with this group and that group to develop drug testing for boxing, when there is no evidence he is doing so. Here is an unusual lie he recently told:
"Heredia said he is going to meet with FDA special agent Jeff Novitzky, the man who broke the BALCO case, Thursday in Las Vegas and that Marquez will provide a blood and urine sample,Heredia portrayed it as evidence that he is cooperating and attempting to develop a program that could catch cheats in professional boxing. But Novitzky is a criminal investigator, not a man who would be setting testing protocols or even handling a blood or urine specimen." YahooSports

This is just an obvious lie and really brings up allot of questions. There are no pre-drug test screening for Marquez and Pacquiao so why would he be giving Marquez's blood and urine to anyone outside of the Nevada Athletic commission.

Those might want to say the same about Pacquiao, but its not the same thing. Pacquiao does not have a known PED peddler as a conditioning coach. I believe Marquez would do just about anything to get a win against his foe Pacquiao, just like Mosley was willing to do against De La Hoya and other fighters willing to do whatever to winexamples Margarito, Tarver, Vargas. Doing so would be easy for Marquez to rationalize it by thinking he was cheated out of the pat 3 fights with Pacqman.

I know I might get allot of shit for this, so go ahead and give it to me. By the way I am a big Marquez fan always have been. Thes are legit questions

I stopped reading after your first line. Because.... "actually in my line of work one only uses facts."

Ok then, if that is the case why the hugely speculatory (and massively unnecessary) post?

Marquez hasn't finish taking his post fight shower and he's accused of using PED's?

You sir, are an idiot.

Its speculative that Marquez trainer was involved in PEDS? That's a fact
Its speculative that his trainer uses alias's? That's a fact, and his excuse is rather odd to why he does.
I think you need to look up the definition of a fact. So your the idiot when things I brought up are easily researched.

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Marquez is bigger because he's taking PED's? Not a fact.
He squats more because he's on PED's? Not a fact.
He used PED's to beat Pacquiao because he'd "do just about anything to beat Pacquiao"? Not a fact.

You need to look up the definition if conspiracy theorist because if you don't believe you are one, you're massively mistaken.

And to reiterate, your sir, are an idiot.

[jbp23]

Marquez is bigger because he's taking PED's? Not a fact.
He squats more because he's on PED's? Not a fact.
He used PED's to beat Pacquiao because he'd "do just about anything to beat Pacquiao"? Not a fact.

You need to look up the definition if conspiracy theorist because if you don't believe you are one, you're massively mistaken.

And to reiterate, your sir, are an idiot.

I did not address those as facts the specific things you bring up are based on my opinion. tWhy don't you address the issues I brought up about Hernandez? Are you not bright enough to come up with an argument to counter the issues I brought up about him? Why don't you address them? I dare you, come up with some reasons/excuses as to why Hernandez uses an alias, why he lies about working with the USDA, or that its unreasonable to be suspicious of someone who has a history of PED involvement. Go on I dare you to counter these arguments not go off on another topic.

Tell me is it reasonable to be suspicious of someone with previous PED involvement? If you had any balls you would answer the question, but my guess is you will choose not to because your a coward.

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It's reasonable to be suspicious but as I just posted before decided to dribble more shit, there's a well known and PUBLIC reason for Marquez and his growth.

Who gives a shit about his trainer? His trainer could be shooting anabolic steroids into his cock, as long as marquez hasn't touched them (and there is no reason to say he has except your obvious lack of boxing knowledge based opinion) then it doesn't matter.

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It's reasonable to be suspicious but as I just posted before decided to dribble more shit, there's a well known and PUBLIC reason for Marquez and his growth.

Who gives a shit about his trainer? His trainer could be shooting anabolic steroids into his cock, as long as marquez hasn't touched them (and there is no reason to say he has except your obvious lack of boxing knowledge based opinion) then it doesn't matter.

Talk about stupidity, ignoring the trainers past and its ok for him to be shooting drugs and for Marquez to have him around. Who gives a shit about his trainer, yeah because trainers having nothing to do with the fighter and the fight. Now that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Now that's a lack of boxing knowledge saying a trainer has nothing to do with a boxer's performance.
It just shows the lack of morality of most of you when no one minds that a guy who has a history of PEDS is in boxing and working with one of boxing's most well known fighters. I guess as long as your fighter wins, its ok if he possible cheated, but if your fighter loses you were probably one of those screaming Pacman was on PEDS. For the record if Pacman's strenght coach had a similar history as Hernandez then I would be equally suspicious.

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It's reasonable to be suspicious but as I just posted before decided to dribble more shit, there's a well known and PUBLIC reason for Marquez and his growth.

Who gives a shit about his trainer? His trainer could be shooting anabolic steroids into his cock, as long as marquez hasn't touched them (and there is no reason to say he has except your obvious lack of boxing knowledge based opinion) then it doesn't matter.

Talk about stupidity, ignoring the trainers past and its ok for him to be shooting drugs and for Marquez to have him around. Who gives a shit about his trainer, yeah because trainers having nothing to do with the fighter and the fight. Now that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Now that's a lack of boxing knowledge saying a trainer has nothing to do with a boxer's performance.
It just shows the lack of morality of most of you when no one minds that a guy who has a history of PEDS is in boxing and working with one of boxing's most well known fighters. I guess as long as your fighter wins, its ok if he possible cheated, but if your fighter loses you were probably one of those screaming Pacman was on PEDS. For the record if Pacman's strenght coach had a similar history as Hernandez then I would be equally suspicious.

Man you really are in a world of your own. My fighter? Firstly, I watch boxing for the 2 guys in the ring. I have NEVER watched a fight and said

"Wow Marquez just KO'd Pacquiao, but due to my principles I cannot enjoy this knockout because Marquez has a trainer involved in drugs"

No one has EVER said that.

What the fuck anyways? Why do you give a shit? Did you lose money last night?

I'm fine with people having opinions, but you're the kinda guy that makes me happy to be a misanthropist that doesn't really give a shit about listening to other peoples opinions.

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Lol

Every time somebody wins today the ped accusation is sure to follow. Both punches that dropped Manny were perfectly timed and a result of Manny's dart in and out style. It finally caught up to him against a guy he had previously fought 3 times and he could have fought the 4th blindfolded. The knockout punch was brilliant and Manny walked right into it.

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Why is it ever long great bridge crossed always has to have some nagging Troll underneath. Must really hurt to see Pac trying to brush his teeth face first with the ring like that.

Hey..At least Marquez is the one who has already proven he has no problem pissing in a cup. We really need to stop tearing down achievments and casting accusation based in agenda and sour grapes. Prove it or jog on. Marquez literally walked him, spun him into right hands. Fight a guy once...you learn him. Fight him four times, you predict him.

Wach is the size of a Cruise ship and benches God knows what..too bad he has the boxing ability, technique, and skill of a gloved circus Bear! Maybe if he was PED free we'd find he was actually a welter.