Questions About Marquez Strength Trainer and PEDS Legit

[Vendettos]

Marquez is bigger because he's taking PED's? Not a fact.
He squats more because he's on PED's? Not a fact.
He used PED's to beat Pacquiao because he'd "do just about anything to beat Pacquiao"? Not a fact.

You need to look up the definition if conspiracy theorist because if you don't believe you are one, you're massively mistaken.

And to reiterate, your sir, are an idiot.

[jbp23]

Marquez is bigger because he's taking PED's? Not a fact.
He squats more because he's on PED's? Not a fact.
He used PED's to beat Pacquiao because he'd "do just about anything to beat Pacquiao"? Not a fact.

You need to look up the definition if conspiracy theorist because if you don't believe you are one, you're massively mistaken.

And to reiterate, your sir, are an idiot.

I did not address those as facts the specific things you bring up are based on my opinion. tWhy don't you address the issues I brought up about Hernandez? Are you not bright enough to come up with an argument to counter the issues I brought up about him? Why don't you address them? I dare you, come up with some reasons/excuses as to why Hernandez uses an alias, why he lies about working with the USDA, or that its unreasonable to be suspicious of someone who has a history of PED involvement. Go on I dare you to counter these arguments not go off on another topic.

Tell me is it reasonable to be suspicious of someone with previous PED involvement? If you had any balls you would answer the question, but my guess is you will choose not to because your a coward.

[Vendettos]

It's reasonable to be suspicious but as I just posted before decided to dribble more shit, there's a well known and PUBLIC reason for Marquez and his growth.

Who gives a shit about his trainer? His trainer could be shooting anabolic steroids into his cock, as long as marquez hasn't touched them (and there is no reason to say he has except your obvious lack of boxing knowledge based opinion) then it doesn't matter.

[jbp23]

It's reasonable to be suspicious but as I just posted before decided to dribble more shit, there's a well known and PUBLIC reason for Marquez and his growth.

Who gives a shit about his trainer? His trainer could be shooting anabolic steroids into his cock, as long as marquez hasn't touched them (and there is no reason to say he has except your obvious lack of boxing knowledge based opinion) then it doesn't matter.

Talk about stupidity, ignoring the trainers past and its ok for him to be shooting drugs and for Marquez to have him around. Who gives a shit about his trainer, yeah because trainers having nothing to do with the fighter and the fight. Now that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Now that's a lack of boxing knowledge saying a trainer has nothing to do with a boxer's performance.
It just shows the lack of morality of most of you when no one minds that a guy who has a history of PEDS is in boxing and working with one of boxing's most well known fighters. I guess as long as your fighter wins, its ok if he possible cheated, but if your fighter loses you were probably one of those screaming Pacman was on PEDS. For the record if Pacman's strenght coach had a similar history as Hernandez then I would be equally suspicious.

[Vendettos]

It's reasonable to be suspicious but as I just posted before decided to dribble more shit, there's a well known and PUBLIC reason for Marquez and his growth.

Who gives a shit about his trainer? His trainer could be shooting anabolic steroids into his cock, as long as marquez hasn't touched them (and there is no reason to say he has except your obvious lack of boxing knowledge based opinion) then it doesn't matter.

Talk about stupidity, ignoring the trainers past and its ok for him to be shooting drugs and for Marquez to have him around. Who gives a shit about his trainer, yeah because trainers having nothing to do with the fighter and the fight. Now that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Now that's a lack of boxing knowledge saying a trainer has nothing to do with a boxer's performance.
It just shows the lack of morality of most of you when no one minds that a guy who has a history of PEDS is in boxing and working with one of boxing's most well known fighters. I guess as long as your fighter wins, its ok if he possible cheated, but if your fighter loses you were probably one of those screaming Pacman was on PEDS. For the record if Pacman's strenght coach had a similar history as Hernandez then I would be equally suspicious.

Man you really are in a world of your own. My fighter? Firstly, I watch boxing for the 2 guys in the ring. I have NEVER watched a fight and said

"Wow Marquez just KO'd Pacquiao, but due to my principles I cannot enjoy this knockout because Marquez has a trainer involved in drugs"

No one has EVER said that.

What the fuck anyways? Why do you give a shit? Did you lose money last night?

I'm fine with people having opinions, but you're the kinda guy that makes me happy to be a misanthropist that doesn't really give a shit about listening to other peoples opinions.

[jbp23]

It's reasonable to be suspicious but as I just posted before decided to dribble more shit, there's a well known and PUBLIC reason for Marquez and his growth.

Who gives a shit about his trainer? His trainer could be shooting anabolic steroids into his cock, as long as marquez hasn't touched them (and there is no reason to say he has except your obvious lack of boxing knowledge based opinion) then it doesn't matter.

Talk about stupidity, ignoring the trainers past and its ok for him to be shooting drugs and for Marquez to have him around. Who gives a shit about his trainer, yeah because trainers having nothing to do with the fighter and the fight. Now that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Now that's a lack of boxing knowledge saying a trainer has nothing to do with a boxer's performance.
It just shows the lack of morality of most of you when no one minds that a guy who has a history of PEDS is in boxing and working with one of boxing's most well known fighters. I guess as long as your fighter wins, its ok if he possible cheated, but if your fighter loses you were probably one of those screaming Pacman was on PEDS. For the record if Pacman's strenght coach had a similar history as Hernandez then I would be equally suspicious.

Man you really are in a world of your own. My fighter? Firstly, I watch boxing for the 2 guys in the ring. I have NEVER watched a fight and said

"Wow Marquez just KO'd Pacquiao, but due to my principles I cannot enjoy this knockout because Marquez has a trainer involved in drugs"

No one has EVER said that.

What the fuck anyways? Why do you give a shit? Did you lose money last night?

I'm fine with people having opinions, but you're the kinda guy that makes me happy to be a misanthropist that doesn't really give a shit about listening to other peoples opinions.

OOhh wow someone has a thesaurus with them! (misanthropist) too funny, can I ask u one question how many times did you have to go back and forth in order to get it spelled correctly. I bet u did it one letter at a time.! HAHAHA
First off its just not a trainer involved in random drugs its a trainer who gave athletes performing enhancing drugs you fucking moron. There is a big difference and if your too stupid to realize it then aside from your thesaurus get a dictionary and look up the word obtuse!

[Vendettos]

It's reasonable to be suspicious but as I just posted before decided to dribble more shit, there's a well known and PUBLIC reason for Marquez and his growth.

Who gives a shit about his trainer? His trainer could be shooting anabolic steroids into his cock, as long as marquez hasn't touched them (and there is no reason to say he has except your obvious lack of boxing knowledge based opinion) then it doesn't matter.

Talk about stupidity, ignoring the trainers past and its ok for him to be shooting drugs and for Marquez to have him around. Who gives a shit about his trainer, yeah because trainers having nothing to do with the fighter and the fight. Now that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Now that's a lack of boxing knowledge saying a trainer has nothing to do with a boxer's performance.
It just shows the lack of morality of most of you when no one minds that a guy who has a history of PEDS is in boxing and working with one of boxing's most well known fighters. I guess as long as your fighter wins, its ok if he possible cheated, but if your fighter loses you were probably one of those screaming Pacman was on PEDS. For the record if Pacman's strenght coach had a similar history as Hernandez then I would be equally suspicious.

Man you really are in a world of your own. My fighter? Firstly, I watch boxing for the 2 guys in the ring. I have NEVER watched a fight and said

"Wow Marquez just KO'd Pacquiao, but due to my principles I cannot enjoy this knockout because Marquez has a trainer involved in drugs"

No one has EVER said that.

What the fuck anyways? Why do you give a shit? Did you lose money last night?

I'm fine with people having opinions, but you're the kinda guy that makes me happy to be a misanthropist that doesn't really give a shit about listening to other peoples opinions.

OOhh wow someone has a thesaurus with them! (misanthropist) too funny, can I ask u one question how many times did you have to go back and forth in order to get it spelled correctly. I bet u did it one letter at a time.! HAHAHA
First off its just not a trainer involved in random drugs its a trainer who gave athletes performing enhancing drugs you fucking moron. There is a big difference and if your too stupid to realize it then aside from your thesaurus get a dictionary and look up the word obtuse!

Man I'm done arguing with you, and that thesaurus I have is an education (that I choose not to rub in peoples faces, although it would be easy with you).

I'll tell you what, I don't think you'll even stay on this forum longer than the duration of this threads activity but if you do, I implore you, avoid anything I post and refrain from talking to me.


And I'll treat your threads like Tommy Morrison with an open wound and stay the fuck away from them.

[IamInuit]

Lol

Every time somebody wins today the ped accusation is sure to follow. Both punches that dropped Manny were perfectly timed and a result of Manny's dart in and out style. It finally caught up to him against a guy he had previously fought 3 times and he could have fought the 4th blindfolded. The knockout punch was brilliant and Manny walked right into it.

[Kirkland Laing]

Lol

Every time somebody wins today the ped accusation is sure to follow. Both punches that dropped Manny were perfectly timed and a result of Manny's dart in and out style. It finally caught up to him against a guy he had previously fought 3 times and he could have fought the 4th blindfolded. The knockout punch was brilliant and Manny walked right into it.

I agree. I basically said the same thing on the previous page. It doesn't rule out the possibility that both of them could be taking PEDs though. Since all these guys are clean boxers and everything they've done in their late careers is down to hard work in the gym it'd be nice if they all followed the lead of Ninito Donaire and agreed to year-round random testing. Then nobody could make any accusations against them.

[IamInuit]

Lol

Every time somebody wins today the ped accusation is sure to follow. Both punches that dropped Manny were perfectly timed and a result of Manny's dart in and out style. It finally caught up to him against a guy he had previously fought 3 times and he could have fought the 4th blindfolded. The knockout punch was brilliant and Manny walked right into it.

I agree. I basically said the same thing on the previous page. It doesn't rule out the possibility that both of them could be taking PEDs though. Since all these guys are clean boxers and everything they've done in their late careers is down to hard work in the gym it'd be nice if they all followed the lead of Ninito Donaire and agreed to year-round random testing. Then nobody could make any accusations against them.

True but Marquez did offer to do whatever tests they wanted and of course that would have obligated Manny to do the same. At worst they were both juicing which would make it an even playing field

[Jokatech]

Lol

Every time somebody wins today the ped accusation is sure to follow. Both punches that dropped Manny were perfectly timed and a result of Manny's dart in and out style. It finally caught up to him against a guy he had previously fought 3 times and he could have fought the 4th blindfolded. The knockout punch was brilliant and Manny walked right into it.

I agree. I basically said the same thing on the previous page. It doesn't rule out the possibility that both of them could be taking PEDs though. Since all these guys are clean boxers and everything they've done in their late careers is down to hard work in the gym it'd be nice if they all followed the lead of Ninito Donaire and agreed to year-round random testing. Then nobody could make any accusations against them.

at this point it's not accusations. 2 small fly weight fighters have been trading leather for over 7 years. Not only do those size fighters almost never score KTFO's, but this pair never has come close. There is nothing natural about a knockout that brutal coming from either 1 of them last night after all this time. I don't care what angle it came from. Trust me, if it was at all likely without drugs, we would never have reached a 4th fight. See, that's the whole thing, boxing and Marquez's camp is counting on the air-headedness of the general public. And with good reason I see.

[Spicoli]

Why is it ever long great bridge crossed always has to have some nagging Troll underneath. Must really hurt to see Pac trying to brush his teeth face first with the ring like that.

Hey..At least Marquez is the one who has already proven he has no problem pissing in a cup. We really need to stop tearing down achievments and casting accusation based in agenda and sour grapes. Prove it or jog on. Marquez literally walked him, spun him into right hands. Fight a guy once...you learn him. Fight him four times, you predict him.

Wach is the size of a Cruise ship and benches God knows what..too bad he has the boxing ability, technique, and skill of a gloved circus Bear! Maybe if he was PED free we'd find he was actually a welter.