From how many fights should Ali have been DQ'ed for holding?

[El Kabong]

I don't. They lacked charisma and a personality. Ali almost did more for boxing outside the ring then he did in it.

...ah yes, we never would have advanced trash talking & fake press conference fights without the great Ali

[El Kabong]

Muhammad Ali wasn't original in how he acted...he was original in style, for a heavyweight simply due to athletic ability but....



That man was who Ali modeled himself after. Ali just did it in an age when there were tvs in every household. Without Jack Johnson there would be no Ali.

[El Kabong]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. is even trying to be the Jack Johnson of this era! STILL over 100 years later, and the P4P #1 fighter is trying to beJack Johnson. Jack fought with an annoying style, he talked loads of trash, he laughed off hatred, he did things specifically to irk people, to push buttons. Ali copied him...he just tried to bring politics into the spotlight to be different....Jack Johnson didn't give 2 shits about politics.

Ali joined the "Nation of Islam" & dodged the draft....whoopty fucking doo. Jack Johnson had sex with white women & sped in his car through the rural south in the 1900's with no NAACP & no group of idiot thugs following Elijah Muhammad to "have his back"

Jack Johnson even has a better movie than Ali documentary (Unforgivable Blackness) & biopic (The Great White Hope).

Without Jack Johnson there's no Ali

[Dark Lord Al]

Muhammad Ali wasn't original in how he acted...he was original in style, for a heavyweight simply due to athletic ability but....



That man was who Ali modeled himself after. Ali just did it in an age when there were tvs in every household. Without Jack Johnson there would be no Ali.

To be honest it should be about the boxing not the other bullshit

[El Kabong]

Very true. Ali was like The Beatles he hit the scene at just the right time... he was talented but all the superfluous crap I could have done without.

[Master]

You lot say you do not like the baggage that Ali brought but you still do not accept that what he did in the ring was better than any other heavyweight ever accomplished.

Without Joe Louis there would have been less opportunity for Ali, not Jack Johnson, get your facts right.

Get over it and judge him on his boxing as we have.

[IamInuit]

I don't. They lacked charisma and a personality. Ali almost did more for boxing outside the ring then he did in it.

...ah yes, we never would have advanced trash talking & fake press conference fights without the great Ali

Don't insult my intelligence. Robinson was a chronic womanizer.

[Master]

I don't. They lacked charisma and a personality. Ali almost did more for boxing outside the ring then he did in it.

...ah yes, we never would have advanced trash talking & fake press conference fights without the great Ali

Don't insult my intelligence. Robinson was a chronic womanizer.

As was Joe Louis, Rocky was cheap, ......

[IamInuit]

I don't. They lacked charisma and a personality. Ali almost did more for boxing outside the ring then he did in it.

...ah yes, we never would have advanced trash talking & fake press conference fights without the great Ali

Don't insult my intelligence. Robinson was a chronic womanizer.

As was Joe Louis, Rocky was cheap, ......

Forever copied. Never duplicated.

[Dark Lord Al]

I don't. They lacked charisma and a personality. Ali almost did more for boxing outside the ring then he did in it.

...ah yes, we never would have advanced trash talking & fake press conference fights without the great Ali

Don't insult my intelligence. Robinson was a chronic womanizer.

Womanizing isnt a crime , refusing to go to war is.

[Master]

I don't. They lacked charisma and a personality. Ali almost did more for boxing outside the ring then he did in it.

...ah yes, we never would have advanced trash talking & fake press conference fights without the great Ali

Don't insult my intelligence. Robinson was a chronic womanizer.

Womanizing isnt a crime , refusing to go to war is.

Many rich people draft dodged too at the time, so did Dempsey. Forget all that. Boxing he was the best.

[Dark Lord Al]

I don't. They lacked charisma and a personality. Ali almost did more for boxing outside the ring then he did in it.

...ah yes, we never would have advanced trash talking & fake press conference fights without the great Ali

Don't insult my intelligence. Robinson was a chronic womanizer.

Womanizing isnt a crime , refusing to go to war is.

Many rich people draft dodged too at the time, so did Dempsey. Forget all that. Boxing he was the best.

The Great Joe Louis was HW champion and fought for his country , so he was greater in and out of the ring. A real hero a man for all ages .

[Beanflicker]

The Great Joe Louis was HW champion and fought for his country , so he was greater in and out of the ring. A real hero a man for all ages .

To be fair, Louis never did any real "fighting" and was never expected to. He did boxing exhibitions and talked to the troops to boost morale. There are tons of celebrities who went over to Iraq to do the same thing, and we don't say that they were over there fighting for their country.

With Muhammad Ali, he was going to be handed a rifle and dropped in a jungle to kill or be killed.

[Dark Lord Al]

The Great Joe Louis was HW champion and fought for his country , so he was greater in and out of the ring. A real hero a man for all ages .

To be fair, Louis never did any real "fighting" and was never expected to. He did boxing exhibitions and talked to the troops to boost morale. There are tons of celebrities who went over to Iraq to do the same thing, and we don't say that they were over there fighting for their country.

With Muhammad Ali, he was going to be handed a rifle and dropped in a jungle to kill or be killed.

Yes i agree with you totally he was a coward for not answering the call up.