When David met Wlad..

[Fenster]

I don't think Wlad took anything from Haye. He just defeated him, he didn't dish out a beating in any way, it was just a clear Wlad decision and other than a little hurt pride, I don't think it has effected Haye on a massive scale.

Lyle is very bias on this and his hatred towards Haye kind of leads him to say things harsher than they actually need to be. He called the Wlad-Haye fight perfectly for years though so I have alot of respect for that. Either way you look at it Haye turned up for the payday rather than the glory. It pissed alot of us Brits off though because it is very clear that Haye's skillset is capable of much more than this once a year "talk a fight" parade we are given. My belief is still that Haye could clean out the division, but I don't believe he really wants to do it.

No he didn't () - Wlad was going to take the fight to Haye, punish him and look spectacular with a KO victory.

[TitoFan]

I don't think Wlad took anything from Haye. He just defeated him, he didn't dish out a beating in any way, it was just a clear Wlad decision and other than a little hurt pride, I don't think it has effected Haye on a massive scale.

Lyle is very bias on this and his hatred towards Haye kind of leads him to say things harsher than they actually need to be. He called the Wlad-Haye fight perfectly for years though so I have alot of respect for that. Either way you look at it Haye turned up for the payday rather than the glory. It pissed alot of us Brits off though because it is very clear that Haye's skillset is capable of much more than this once a year "talk a fight" parade we are given. My belief is still that Haye could clean out the division, but I don't believe he really wants to do it.

No he didn't () - Wlad was going to take the fight to Haye, punish him and look spectacular with a KO victory.

It became a contest of who could sink the lowest from pre-fight expectations.

It was close... but Haye won.

[erics44]

I don't think Wlad took anything from Haye. He just defeated him, he didn't dish out a beating in any way, it was just a clear Wlad decision and other than a little hurt pride, I don't think it has effected Haye on a massive scale.

Lyle is very bias on this and his hatred towards Haye kind of leads him to say things harsher than they actually need to be. He called the Wlad-Haye fight perfectly for years though so I have alot of respect for that. Either way you look at it Haye turned up for the payday rather than the glory. It pissed alot of us Brits off though because it is very clear that Haye's skillset is capable of much more than this once a year "talk a fight" parade we are given. My belief is still that Haye could clean out the division, but I don't believe he really wants to do it.

No he didn't () - Wlad was going to take the fight to Haye, punish him and look spectacular with a KO victory.

It became a contest of who could sink the lowest from pre-fight expectations.

It was close... but Haye won.

nicely summed up

[erics44]

actually tho, should haye have been given a slight handicap?

fighting away from home against a giant?

[Fenster]

I don't think Wlad took anything from Haye. He just defeated him, he didn't dish out a beating in any way, it was just a clear Wlad decision and other than a little hurt pride, I don't think it has effected Haye on a massive scale.

Lyle is very bias on this and his hatred towards Haye kind of leads him to say things harsher than they actually need to be. He called the Wlad-Haye fight perfectly for years though so I have alot of respect for that. Either way you look at it Haye turned up for the payday rather than the glory. It pissed alot of us Brits off though because it is very clear that Haye's skillset is capable of much more than this once a year "talk a fight" parade we are given. My belief is still that Haye could clean out the division, but I don't believe he really wants to do it.

No he didn't () - Wlad was going to take the fight to Haye, punish him and look spectacular with a KO victory.

It became a contest of who could sink the lowest from pre-fight expectations.

It was close... but Haye won.

Well it wasn't really close. Haye won by a mile. He fooled even hardcore fans into believing they were about to see the second coming. Wlad was just his usual self (dull).

[Mars_ax]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

[Master]

Haye put in a dismall performance against Wlad. Haye tried landing the big punch but Wlad is a lot better than that now. Wlad owned Haye in the pre-fight hype and Haye made a complete prat of himself with his toe injury.

Haye wants to beat Vitali who is slow and aged a lot recently and then make amends and put a better effort against Wlad if he beat his brother Vitali.

[Mars_ax]

Haye put in a dismall performance against Wlad. Haye tried landing the big punch but Wlad is a lot better than that now. Wlad owned Haye in the pre-fight hype and Haye made a complete prat of himself with his toe injury.

Haye wants to beat Vitali who is slow and aged a lot recently and then make amends and put a better effort against Wlad if he beat his brother Vitali.

Haye wouldn't beat Vitali if he was 60, and if he fought Wlad again, he gets crushed.

The only reason Haye will ever get a fight with either Klitschko Bro is money, because he damn sure hasn't earned it in the ring. The same suckers who paid to see Haye lose to Wlad the 1st time will be throwing their money away again. Fools never learn.

[Silkeyjoe]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

Yea it's amazing. Haye has beaten no one as a heavyweight yet many people rank him 3rd. Would he honestly beat a top 10 heavyweight? And if so why hasn't he yet? I think he woul beat Povetkin, Wilder, Adamek but why is he not pursuing these fights?

[Master]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

Yea it's amazing. Haye has beaten no one as a heavyweight yet many people rank him 3rd. Would he honestly beat a top 10 heavyweight? And if so why hasn't he yet? I think he woul beat Povetkin, Wilder, Adamek but why is he not pursuing these fights?

Because he does not trust his chin.

[Fenster]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

Yea it's amazing. Haye has beaten no one as a heavyweight yet many people rank him 3rd. Would he honestly beat a top 10 heavyweight? And if so why hasn't he yet? I think he woul beat Povetkin, Wilder, Adamek but why is he not pursuing these fights?

Because he does not trust his chin.

Because he's loaded and doesn't have to risk his chin.

[Mars_ax]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

Yea it's amazing. Haye has beaten no one as a heavyweight yet many people rank him 3rd. Would he honestly beat a top 10 heavyweight? And if so why hasn't he yet? I think he would beat Povetkin, Wilder, Adamek but why is he not pursuing these fights?

Eh, why work for a title shot with a Klitschko like everyone else has to, when you know because of the money it would generate, you'll eventually get one anyway.

[erics44]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

this isnt true, it happens over and over again

boxing is all about hype

[TitoFan]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

this isnt true, it happens over and over again

boxing is all about hype

And when the actions follow, and back up the hype, all is well and good.
But when it doesn't, it rings hollow and makes the fighter look like a fool.
Fans that continue to buy the "snake-oil salesman" pitch don't look too good, either.

[erics44]

Did you mean David Hype? Some of you Brits must really love this clown, because never has a "big name" fighter gotten so much attention, while accomplishing so little.

It's sad to see some of you still hanging on haye's nuts and/or still buying the hype.

this isnt true, it happens over and over again

boxing is all about hype

And when the actions follow, and back up the hype, all is well and good.
But when it doesn't, it rings hollow and makes the fighter look like a fool.
Fans that continue to buy the "snake-oil salesman" pitch don't look too good, either.

you are right, the outcome of this kind of hype around a fighter varies from hyped fighter to hyped fighter

and in the example of david haye a lot of people switched off to his potential following the wlad fight and are very angry about how he performed (you seem to be one of these)

there are a lot of people who still believe haye is the best chance (in a shit crop of fighters) we have got to seeing a klit toppled , i am also of this opinion as slim as this chance is

yeah haye didnt perform in that fight, but if we analise the fight and only the fight, haye was away from home fighting a man several inches taller, a lot heavier, with many more world title fights of that magnitude under his belt in comparison, and if your honest you would agree the refereeing isnt exactly neutral, and haye still landed more punches than most, maybe next time with the extra experience he could get a little bit closer