Benghazi...oh you knew it was coming

[El Kabong]

Alright you dumb piece of shit

SEN. GRAHAM: Your testimony, as I understand it, Secretary Panetta, that you talked to the president of the United States one time.

SEC. PANETTA: I talked to him on Sept. 11 with regards to the fact that we were aware this attack was taking place.

SEN. GRAHAM: One time.

SEC. PANETTA: Right.

SEN. GRAHAM: What time did you tell him that?

SEC. PANETTA: I think that was approximately about 5 o’clock?

GEN. DEMPSEY: Yeah, about 5 o’clock.

SEC. PANETTA: About 5 o’clock.

SEN. GRAHAM: General Dempsey, did you ever talk to the president of the United States at all?

GEN. DEMPSEY: I was with the secretary when — at that same time.

SEN. GRAHAM: Did you talk to the president?

GEN. DEMPSEY: Yes.

SEN. GRAHAM: You talked to him how many times.

GEN. DEMPSEY: The same — one time.

SEN. GRAHAM: How long did the conversation last?

GEN. DEMPSEY: We were there in the office for probably 30 minutes.

SEN. GRAHAM: So you talked to him for 30 minutes, one time, and you never talked to him again, either one of you.

GEN. DEMPSEY: Until afterwards.

SEN. GRAHAM: Until after the attack was over.

GEN. DEMPSEY: That’s right.

Sworn testimony.....need more proof?

[El Kabong]

Emails have been released and they are DAMNING

[El Kabong]

Benghazi Emails Directly Contradict White House Claims | The Weekly Standard

The phrase "Directly Contradict White House Claims" is bound to raise some eyebrows as well it should because this means Jay Carney & Hillary Clinton have been caught red handed in a lie.

[Kirkland Laing]

Alright you dumb piece of shit

SEN. GRAHAM: Your testimony, as I understand it, Secretary Panetta, that you talked to the president of the United States one time.

SEC. PANETTA: I talked to him on Sept. 11 with regards to the fact that we were aware this attack was taking place.

SEN. GRAHAM: One time.

SEC. PANETTA: Right.

SEN. GRAHAM: What time did you tell him that?

SEC. PANETTA: I think that was approximately about 5 o’clock?

GEN. DEMPSEY: Yeah, about 5 o’clock.

SEC. PANETTA: About 5 o’clock.

SEN. GRAHAM: General Dempsey, did you ever talk to the president of the United States at all?

GEN. DEMPSEY: I was with the secretary when — at that same time.

SEN. GRAHAM: Did you talk to the president?

GEN. DEMPSEY: Yes.

SEN. GRAHAM: You talked to him how many times.

GEN. DEMPSEY: The same — one time.

SEN. GRAHAM: How long did the conversation last?

GEN. DEMPSEY: We were there in the office for probably 30 minutes.

SEN. GRAHAM: So you talked to him for 30 minutes, one time, and you never talked to him again, either one of you.

GEN. DEMPSEY: Until afterwards.

SEN. GRAHAM: Until after the attack was over.

GEN. DEMPSEY: That’s right.

Sworn testimony.....need more proof?

This is supposed to be proof that Obama told troops to stand down twice? I rest my case.

[El Kabong]

This is supposed to be proof that Obama told troops to stand down twice? I rest my case.

You are a certified grade A retard

#1 You said

You also keep saying that he went missing or he "left" somewhere. Where is the evidence for this? The guy in the video said he was talking to the White House, so presumably the Kenyan was in the White House. Do you have any actual evidence that shows where he went missing from? This is the third time I asked you.

And that was evidence that Obama had left

#2 As per the "stand down" orders...

A: If Obama DID leave this up to Gen. Dempsey & Panetta one of them gave an order they are not allowed to give UNLESS Obama as Commander-in-Chief gave them permission

B: Or Obama WAS present and DID give the stand down orders and Gen. Dempsey & Panetta lied to Congress


I do hope you can follow that.

The point to all this is that PEOPLE NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE...I know you're a panty waste bleeding heart liberal but in "The Real World" people get held accountable

[Kirkland Laing]

This is supposed to be proof that Obama told troops to stand down twice? I rest my case.

You are a certified grade A retard

#1 You said

You also keep saying that he went missing or he "left" somewhere. Where is the evidence for this? The guy in the video said he was talking to the White House, so presumably the Kenyan was in the White House. Do you have any actual evidence that shows where he went missing from? This is the third time I asked you.

And that was evidence that Obama had left

#2 As per the "stand down" orders...

A: If Obama DID leave this up to Gen. Dempsey & Panetta one of them gave an order they are not allowed to give UNLESS Obama as Commander-in-Chief gave them permission

B: Or Obama WAS present and DID give the stand down orders and Gen. Dempsey & Panetta lied to Congress


I do hope you can follow that.

The point to all this is that PEOPLE NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE...I know you're a panty waste bleeding heart liberal but in "The Real World" people get held accountable

Right, so you've got zero evidence to back up your claim that Obama gave two orders to stand down. All you can come up with is speculation.


And you've posted something that says two generals didn't speak to Obama after speaking with him initially and you're claiming this backs up your contention that Obama went missing. But I already posted something that shows Obama was speaking to the military via White House staff. So you can't prove this either.

And again I'll point out that zero elected GOP people on the national stage are claiming either of these things is true. Benghazi is now an argument about talking points in a memo andsemantics, that's it. The two things you're claiming above are only being covered by the loony conspiracy theory people.You can't post any credible evidence to back up either of the claims you're making because there isn't any.

Also, too. In America only poor powerless people get held accountable.

[El Kabong]

Right, so you've got zero evidence to back up your claim that Obama gave two orders to stand down. All you can come up with is speculation.


And you've posted something that says two generals didn't speak to Obama after speaking with him initially and you're claiming this backs up your contention that Obama went missing. But I already posted something that shows Obama was speaking to the military via White House staff. So you can't prove this either.

And again I'll point out that zero elected GOP people on the national stage are claiming either of these things is true. Benghazi is now an argument about talking points in a memo andsemantics, that's it. The two things you're claiming above are only being covered by the loony conspiracy theory people.You can't post any credible evidence to back up either of the claims you're making because there isn't any.

Also, too. In America only poor powerless people get held accountable.

Yes apparently you are retarded

Let me try yet again to break it down for you....I hope you're wearing a helmet

A: 2 orders to stand down were given....This is a FACT

B: Who gave the stand down orders? That is the answer the American people want

Representative Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), a member of the committee also said that “military personnel were ready willing and able, and within proximity, but the Pentagon told them they had no authority and to stand down.”

DANA LOESCH: “Because you have been an ambassador, you have been overseas with similar responsibilities and similar missions – who gives such an order to stand down? Where does that come from?”

REP. ANN WAGNER : “The President of the United States”

“The President of the United States”

“The President of the United States”


EAT.......A......DICK you troll

[El Kabong]

[Kirkland Laing]

Right, so you've got zero evidence to back up your claim that Obama gave two orders to stand down. All you can come up with is speculation.


And you've posted something that says two generals didn't speak to Obama after speaking with him initially and you're claiming this backs up your contention that Obama went missing. But I already posted something that shows Obama was speaking to the military via White House staff. So you can't prove this either.

And again I'll point out that zero elected GOP people on the national stage are claiming either of these things is true. Benghazi is now an argument about talking points in a memo andsemantics, that's it. The two things you're claiming above are only being covered by the loony conspiracy theory people.You can't post any credible evidence to back up either of the claims you're making because there isn't any.

Also, too. In America only poor powerless people get held accountable.

Yes apparently you are retarded

Let me try yet again to break it down for you....I hope you're wearing a helmet

A: 2 orders to stand down were given....This is a FACT

B: Who gave the stand down orders? That is the answer the American people want

Representative Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), a member of the committee also said that “military personnel were ready willing and able, and within proximity, but the Pentagon told them they had no authority and to stand down.”

DANA LOESCH: “Because you have been an ambassador, you have been overseas with similar responsibilities and similar missions – who gives such an order to stand down? Where does that come from?”

REP. ANN WAGNER : “The President of the United States”

“The President of the United States”

“The President of the United States”


EAT.......A......DICK you troll

Still zero evidence that Obama told anybody to stand down and still no actual national elected politicians claiming that Obama told anybody to stand down. This is just a crazy conspiracy theory.

If you remember when this first happened you were trying to convice us that although you had no evidence to back it up you knew it was true because somebody you know in the military told you he was there and Obama told him to stand down.

[El Kabong]

Still zero evidence that Obama told anybody to stand down and still no actual national elected politicians claiming that Obama told anybody to stand down. This is just a crazy conspiracy theory.

If you remember when this first happened you were trying to convice us that although you had no evidence to back it up you knew it was true because somebody you know in the military told you he was there and Obama told him to stand down.

Oh you've no doubt bought Obama's Sergeant Schultz defense "I know nothing, I see nothing"...what a good simple little water carrier you are


I do have a friend in the military and we did briefly talk about Benghazi right after it happened and he took "a few calls for it" and said "it looks like they (The White House) refused to offer help"....but I'm sure a bright fella like yourself would have better knowledge than someone experiencing the action of mobilizing to help out after the actual attack first hand...I mean you are ALWAYS too humble in what your view is.

Stand down orders WERE given and General Carter Ham who was in charge of the Africom forces was relieved of his duties for insubordination because he wanted to go against those stand down orders

TRR: Is a General losing his job over Benghazi? - Washington Times





Do you enjoy losing this debate? I don't much care for repeating the same things over and over in hopes that your tiny little brain might soak up some information, but whatever I'm in the right here and you have just been bitch slapped with the truth

[Kirkland Laing]

Still zero evidence that Obama told anybody to stand down and still no actual national elected politicians claiming that Obama told anybody to stand down. This is just a crazy conspiracy theory.

If you remember when this first happened you were trying to convice us that although you had no evidence to back it up you knew it was true because somebody you know in the military told you he was there and Obama told him to stand down.

Oh you've no doubt bought Obama's Sergeant Schultz defense "I know nothing, I see nothing"...what a good simple little water carrier you are


I do have a friend in the military and we did briefly talk about Benghazi right after it happened and he took "a few calls for it" and said "it looks like they (The White House) refused to offer help"....but I'm sure a bright fella like yourself would have better knowledge than someone experiencing the action of mobilizing to help out after the actual attack first hand...I mean you are ALWAYS too humble in what your view is.

Stand down orders WERE given and General Carter Ham who was in charge of the Africom forces was relieved of his duties for insubordination because he wanted to go against those stand down orders

TRR: Is a General losing his job over Benghazi? - Washington Times





Do you enjoy losing this debate? I don't much care for repeating the same things over and over in hopes that your tiny little brain might soak up some information, but whatever I'm in the right here and you have just been bitch slapped with the truth

You're just repeating outright bullshit (you have a friend!), conspiracy theories and assorted rubbish. You've so far offered zero evidence Obama told anybody to stand down. And you've got zero idea what the US military is actually capable of doing in a situation like this :

Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

By Jake Miller Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates forcefully defended the Obama administration on Sunday against charges that it did not do enough to prevent the tragedy in Benghazi, telling CBS' "Face the Nation" that some critics of the administration have a "cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces."
Gates, a Republican who was appointed by then-President George W. Bush in 2006 and agreed to stay through more than two years of President Obama's first term, repeatedly declined to criticize the policymakers who devised a response to the September 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.
"Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were," said Gates, now the chancellor of the College of William and Mary.
"We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible." he explained.
Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers to "scare them with the noise or something," Gates said, ignored the "number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former Libyan leader] Qaddafi's arsenals."
"I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft, over Benghazi under those circumstances," he said.
Another suggestion posed by some critics of the administration, to, as Gates said, "send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, would have been very dangerous."
"It's sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces," he said. "The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm's way, and there just wasn't time to do that."..............................




Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability - CBS News

[El Kabong]

Again...the main issue is not so much the actions of the military although I would like to know more about that especially the stand down orders that were given ... the MAIN ISSSUE, the CRUX OF THE SCANDAL is Why were the talking points changed?

94 emails and not 1 single solitary mention of a YouTube video....not 1 Kirkland......where did the idea to blame the video come from?

[Kirkland Laing]

Again...the main issue is not so much the actions of the military although I would like to know more about that especially the stand down orders that were given ... the MAIN ISSSUE, the CRUX OF THE SCANDAL is Why were the talking points changed?

94 emails and not 1 single solitary mention of a YouTube video....not 1 Kirkland......where did the idea to blame the video come from?

I'm pleased to see you've given up on the conspiracy theories. If you read the papers you'd know the anser to the question you're asking here. I don't even read every Benghazi article every day, I'll only read one if it looks like there's something new in it which means I read less than one in ten, and I know the answer to this question. I'm not going to tell you what it is, only that if you actually do read some non-nutjob stuff for a while it'll probably be repeated in some article and you won't like it.

[El Kabong]

Again...the main issue is not so much the actions of the military although I would like to know more about that especially the stand down orders that were given ... the MAIN ISSSUE, the CRUX OF THE SCANDAL is Why were the talking points changed?

94 emails and not 1 single solitary mention of a YouTube video....not 1 Kirkland......where did the idea to blame the video come from?

I'm pleased to see you've given up on the conspiracy theories. If you read the papers you'd know the anser to the question you're asking here. I don't even read every Benghazi article every day, I'll only read one if it looks like there's something new in it which means I read less than one in ten, and I know the answer to this question. I'm not going to tell you what it is, only that if you actually do read some non-nutjob stuff for a while it'll probably be repeated in some article and you won't like it.

...and I'm pleased to see you're still an asshole

[TitoFan]

You gotta admit, Kirk. Ol' Lyle is a master at the counter-argument.