Benghazi...oh you knew it was coming

[El Kabong]

Still zero evidence that Obama told anybody to stand down and still no actual national elected politicians claiming that Obama told anybody to stand down. This is just a crazy conspiracy theory.

If you remember when this first happened you were trying to convice us that although you had no evidence to back it up you knew it was true because somebody you know in the military told you he was there and Obama told him to stand down.

Oh you've no doubt bought Obama's Sergeant Schultz defense "I know nothing, I see nothing"...what a good simple little water carrier you are


I do have a friend in the military and we did briefly talk about Benghazi right after it happened and he took "a few calls for it" and said "it looks like they (The White House) refused to offer help"....but I'm sure a bright fella like yourself would have better knowledge than someone experiencing the action of mobilizing to help out after the actual attack first hand...I mean you are ALWAYS too humble in what your view is.

Stand down orders WERE given and General Carter Ham who was in charge of the Africom forces was relieved of his duties for insubordination because he wanted to go against those stand down orders

TRR: Is a General losing his job over Benghazi? - Washington Times





Do you enjoy losing this debate? I don't much care for repeating the same things over and over in hopes that your tiny little brain might soak up some information, but whatever I'm in the right here and you have just been bitch slapped with the truth

[Kirkland Laing]

Still zero evidence that Obama told anybody to stand down and still no actual national elected politicians claiming that Obama told anybody to stand down. This is just a crazy conspiracy theory.

If you remember when this first happened you were trying to convice us that although you had no evidence to back it up you knew it was true because somebody you know in the military told you he was there and Obama told him to stand down.

Oh you've no doubt bought Obama's Sergeant Schultz defense "I know nothing, I see nothing"...what a good simple little water carrier you are


I do have a friend in the military and we did briefly talk about Benghazi right after it happened and he took "a few calls for it" and said "it looks like they (The White House) refused to offer help"....but I'm sure a bright fella like yourself would have better knowledge than someone experiencing the action of mobilizing to help out after the actual attack first hand...I mean you are ALWAYS too humble in what your view is.

Stand down orders WERE given and General Carter Ham who was in charge of the Africom forces was relieved of his duties for insubordination because he wanted to go against those stand down orders

TRR: Is a General losing his job over Benghazi? - Washington Times





Do you enjoy losing this debate? I don't much care for repeating the same things over and over in hopes that your tiny little brain might soak up some information, but whatever I'm in the right here and you have just been bitch slapped with the truth

You're just repeating outright bullshit (you have a friend!), conspiracy theories and assorted rubbish. You've so far offered zero evidence Obama told anybody to stand down. And you've got zero idea what the US military is actually capable of doing in a situation like this :

Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

By Jake Miller Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates forcefully defended the Obama administration on Sunday against charges that it did not do enough to prevent the tragedy in Benghazi, telling CBS' "Face the Nation" that some critics of the administration have a "cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces."
Gates, a Republican who was appointed by then-President George W. Bush in 2006 and agreed to stay through more than two years of President Obama's first term, repeatedly declined to criticize the policymakers who devised a response to the September 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.
"Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were," said Gates, now the chancellor of the College of William and Mary.
"We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible." he explained.
Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers to "scare them with the noise or something," Gates said, ignored the "number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former Libyan leader] Qaddafi's arsenals."
"I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft, over Benghazi under those circumstances," he said.
Another suggestion posed by some critics of the administration, to, as Gates said, "send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, would have been very dangerous."
"It's sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces," he said. "The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm's way, and there just wasn't time to do that."..............................




Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability - CBS News

[El Kabong]

Again...the main issue is not so much the actions of the military although I would like to know more about that especially the stand down orders that were given ... the MAIN ISSSUE, the CRUX OF THE SCANDAL is Why were the talking points changed?

94 emails and not 1 single solitary mention of a YouTube video....not 1 Kirkland......where did the idea to blame the video come from?

[Kirkland Laing]

Again...the main issue is not so much the actions of the military although I would like to know more about that especially the stand down orders that were given ... the MAIN ISSSUE, the CRUX OF THE SCANDAL is Why were the talking points changed?

94 emails and not 1 single solitary mention of a YouTube video....not 1 Kirkland......where did the idea to blame the video come from?

I'm pleased to see you've given up on the conspiracy theories. If you read the papers you'd know the anser to the question you're asking here. I don't even read every Benghazi article every day, I'll only read one if it looks like there's something new in it which means I read less than one in ten, and I know the answer to this question. I'm not going to tell you what it is, only that if you actually do read some non-nutjob stuff for a while it'll probably be repeated in some article and you won't like it.

[El Kabong]

Again...the main issue is not so much the actions of the military although I would like to know more about that especially the stand down orders that were given ... the MAIN ISSSUE, the CRUX OF THE SCANDAL is Why were the talking points changed?

94 emails and not 1 single solitary mention of a YouTube video....not 1 Kirkland......where did the idea to blame the video come from?

I'm pleased to see you've given up on the conspiracy theories. If you read the papers you'd know the anser to the question you're asking here. I don't even read every Benghazi article every day, I'll only read one if it looks like there's something new in it which means I read less than one in ten, and I know the answer to this question. I'm not going to tell you what it is, only that if you actually do read some non-nutjob stuff for a while it'll probably be repeated in some article and you won't like it.

...and I'm pleased to see you're still an asshole

[TitoFan]

You gotta admit, Kirk. Ol' Lyle is a master at the counter-argument.

[El Kabong]

Kirkland STILL has yet to answer where the President was, not that he cares because he's not American....but hey Obama wants to sick the IRS on Conservative groups that's fine by Kirkland, Obama wants to sweep Benghazi under the rug to get reelected that's fine by Kirkland, Obama wants to illegally (oooh did I say that?) seize phone records of the AP, wants to name James Rosen as a "co-conspirator" so they can illegally (oh there's that word again) access Rosen's private emails...that's fine by Kirkland.


The only thing that's not fine by Kirkland, Presidents named Bush or that have an R beside their name. Why is that? Well that's because Kirkland is your stereotypical dirtbag liberal who doesn't give a shit about rules and regulations until it helps his agenda.



That a decent enough counter argument you contrarian dope?

[Kirkland Laing]

You gotta admit, Kirk. Ol' Lyle is a master at the counter-argument.

What was really impressive in this thread was that he had two conflicting conspiracy theories going and didn't realise. Obama was missingin action and ignoring what was going on but at the same time gave two separate orders to stand troops down. Much better to just pick one nutball idea and stick with it.