Soldier butchered in street in Woolwich

[Kirkland Laing]

Explain.

CAIR has ties to several terrorist organizations ( I'm shocked) so says DEMOCRATS Chuck Schumer & Dick Durbin

The late Seifeldin Ashmawy, publisher of the New Jersey-based Voice of Peace, called CAIR the champion of "extremists whose views do not represent Islam."

Randall ("Ismail") Royer, an American convert to Islam, served as CAIR's communications specialist and civil rights coordinator; today he sits in jail on terrorism-related charges. In June 2003, Royer and ten other young men, ages 23 to 35, known as the "Virginia jihad group," were indicted on forty-one counts of "conspiracy to train for and participate in a violent jihad overseas."

Ghassan Elashi, Bassam Khafagi and other terrorists have worked for CAIR

CAIR demanded the removal of a Los Angeles billboard describing Osama bin Laden as "the sworn enemy," finding this depiction offensive to Muslims. CAIR also leapt to bin Laden's defense, denying his responsibility for the twin East African embassy bombings.

More broadly, TheReligionofPeace.com website pointed out that "of the more than 3100 fatal Islamic terror attacks committed in the last four years, we have only seen CAIR specifically condemn 18."

In 1998, CAIR co-hosted an event at which an Egyptian Islamist leader, Wagdi Ghunaym, declared Jews to be the "descendants of the apes."

But I'm sure you'll brush these off as mere coincidences

Right, and these guys are liberal lefties?

Yes that is exactly who they endear themselves to, correct. Huma Abedin (a former worker for IMMA Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs run by Abdullah Omar Nasseef who is a finaceer of terrorists) married former Democrat Rep. & current NYC mayoral candidate Anthony Wiener and she was also a top aide to former Sec. of State Hilary Clinton.....so yes I would say the hardcore Muslims are using the naivety of the Democrat/Liberal politicians who will do anything to get a vote.

Hang on a minute. Your original argument, for want of a better word, was basically bashing liberals for apologising for and justifying Muslim terrorism. Now you're saying that somebody Muslim who worked for another Muslim married a Democrat and this somehow gives "hardcore Muslims" leverage on the American political system in some way? That's an impressive argument even for you.

[El Kabong]

Hang on a minute. Your original argument, for want of a better word, was basically bashing liberals for apologising for and justifying Muslim terrorism. Now you're saying that somebody Muslim who worked for another Muslim married a Democrat and this somehow gives "hardcore Muslims" leverage on the American political system in some way? That's an impressive argument even for you.

I'm saying some hardline Muslims are taking advantage of liberal doctrines like: tolerance, always playing the race card, always playing the victim, not believing in an American culture OR believing that America is evil....yes the Muslims love the blame America first crowd and yes the Democrats ARE that crowd.

[Master]

EDL will not stop there. They have an agenda against all Muslims and ultimately against all non-whites. They are full of hatred and violence who thrive on spreading lies and animosity. In fact they are very close to the thing they proclaim they hate the most which is extremist Muslims.

I would not be surprised if they work hand in hand with one another to get to their respective goals.

[Kirkland Laing]

Hang on a minute. Your original argument, for want of a better word, was basically bashing liberals for apologising for and justifying Muslim terrorism. Now you're saying that somebody Muslim who worked for another Muslim married a Democrat and this somehow gives "hardcore Muslims" leverage on the American political system in some way? That's an impressive argument even for you.

I'm saying some hardline Muslims are taking advantage of liberal doctrines like: tolerance, always playing the race card, always playing the victim, not believing in an American culture OR believing that America is evil....yes the Muslims love the blame America first crowd and yes the Democrats ARE that crowd.

What you're calling liberal doctrines are just a bunch of nonsense. Tolerance is an American doctrine and Republicans and conservatives have been playing the race card and complaining of being victims for decades now. Liberals were responsible for the Civil Rights Act for instance and conservatives by and large were the racist scumbags who didn't want equal rights for non-whites. And when the Act was passed conservatives have done nothing but whine and cry about how liberals are slowly destroying America. Just like you complain about Obama destroying America. So your lot are basically full-time racists/professional victims. And now that the white majority can't win elections that cult of victimhood is becoming overwhelming for some, isn't it Lyle?

But let's assume that they're true. How are these hardline Muslims taking advantage of these liberal doctrines?