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View Poll Results: Is Canelo the toughest opponent Floyd has faced since weighing more than 140?

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  • No, Miguel Cotto Was.

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    I haven't given a Floyd opponent a shot to beat him since Oscar, until Canelo. It's clear if you are a boxer turning down a Floyd Mayweather fight is retarded, so it makes sense why he is facing him now. At the same time, Canelo seems a little green to me. If you're a Canelo fan, in the ideal world, he could face some more competition before getting in the right with the best. Racking up wins against other belt holders before facing the best wouldn't be a bad idea.

    The only reason why I think he might not be too green is because of his win over Trout. Trout is a full-fledged junior middleweight that completely dominated Cotto in his last fight. It's possible to use that as a yard stick for where Canelo is at.

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I haven't given a Floyd opponent a shot to beat him since Oscar, until Canelo. It's clear if you are a boxer turning down a Floyd Mayweather fight is retarded, so it makes sense why he is facing him now. At the same time, Canelo seems a little green to me. If you're a Canelo fan, in the ideal world, he could face some more competition before getting in the right with the best. Racking up wins against other belt holders before facing the best wouldn't be a bad idea.

    The only reason why I think he might not be too green is because of his win over Trout. Trout is a full-fledged junior middleweight that completely dominated Cotto in his last fight. It's possible to use that as a yard stick for where Canelo is at.
    The Trout fight was a travesty...sure Canelo won...but the scoring was disgraceful and outside of a knockout Trout never had a chance in that environment. More so...Canelo showed his stamina issues in full spades. Canelo and his team went for the big money with the Floyd fight and i can't hate him for that. But he is about to get schooled.

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I haven't given a Floyd opponent a shot to beat him since Oscar, until Canelo. It's clear if you are a boxer turning down a Floyd Mayweather fight is retarded, so it makes sense why he is facing him now. At the same time, Canelo seems a little green to me. If you're a Canelo fan, in the ideal world, he could face some more competition before getting in the right with the best. Racking up wins against other belt holders before facing the best wouldn't be a bad idea.

    The only reason why I think he might not be too green is because of his win over Trout. Trout is a full-fledged junior middleweight that completely dominated Cotto in his last fight. It's possible to use that as a yard stick for where Canelo is at.
    The Trout fight was a travesty...sure Canelo won...but the scoring was disgraceful and outside of a knockout Trout never had a chance in that environment. More so...Canelo showed his stamina issues in full spades. Canelo and his team went for the big money with the Floyd fight and i can't hate him for that. But he is about to get schooled.
    I thought the same when Floyd and Manny fought Oscar that it was about the money. When they beat him they became massive stars. If Canelo wins this he will pick up the multi million dollar cheques that Floyd would have got.
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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I haven't given a Floyd opponent a shot to beat him since Oscar, until Canelo. It's clear if you are a boxer turning down a Floyd Mayweather fight is retarded, so it makes sense why he is facing him now. At the same time, Canelo seems a little green to me. If you're a Canelo fan, in the ideal world, he could face some more competition before getting in the right with the best. Racking up wins against other belt holders before facing the best wouldn't be a bad idea.

    The only reason why I think he might not be too green is because of his win over Trout. Trout is a full-fledged junior middleweight that completely dominated Cotto in his last fight. It's possible to use that as a yard stick for where Canelo is at.
    The Trout fight was a travesty...sure Canelo won...but the scoring was disgraceful and outside of a knockout Trout never had a chance in that environment. More so...Canelo showed his stamina issues in full spades. Canelo and his team went for the big money with the Floyd fight and i can't hate him for that. But he is about to get schooled.
    I thought the same when Floyd and Manny fought Oscar that it was about the money. When they beat him they became massive stars. If Canelo wins this he will pick up the multi million dollar cheques that Floyd would have got.
    Floyd and Pac where at completely different stages of their careers compared to Canelo. They were proven champions...on a whole different level than Alvarez is right now. Alvarez could have still picked up huge paydays without this fight and gotten more experience as well. He has not fought anyone remotely as good as Floyd and he is going to get badly exposed. Sometimes...patience is a virtue.

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I haven't given a Floyd opponent a shot to beat him since Oscar, until Canelo. It's clear if you are a boxer turning down a Floyd Mayweather fight is retarded, so it makes sense why he is facing him now. At the same time, Canelo seems a little green to me. If you're a Canelo fan, in the ideal world, he could face some more competition before getting in the right with the best. Racking up wins against other belt holders before facing the best wouldn't be a bad idea.

    The only reason why I think he might not be too green is because of his win over Trout. Trout is a full-fledged junior middleweight that completely dominated Cotto in his last fight. It's possible to use that as a yard stick for where Canelo is at.
    The Trout fight was a travesty...sure Canelo won...but the scoring was disgraceful and outside of a knockout Trout never had a chance in that environment. More so...Canelo showed his stamina issues in full spades. Canelo and his team went for the big money with the Floyd fight and i can't hate him for that. But he is about to get schooled.
    Two excellent points here. Canelo is a bit green. I think that is one reason why Floyd wants to fight him now. Second point is the Trout fight. Canelo seemed uncomfortable. Scoring was ridiculous. If Canelo fights Floyd the way he fought Trout I think he will get schooled. I think Trout was big competition for Canelo and many of his weaknesses were shown. The positive side is he may not make the same mistakes with Floyd.

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I haven't given a Floyd opponent a shot to beat him since Oscar, until Canelo. It's clear if you are a boxer turning down a Floyd Mayweather fight is retarded, so it makes sense why he is facing him now. At the same time, Canelo seems a little green to me. If you're a Canelo fan, in the ideal world, he could face some more competition before getting in the right with the best. Racking up wins against other belt holders before facing the best wouldn't be a bad idea.

    The only reason why I think he might not be too green is because of his win over Trout. Trout is a full-fledged junior middleweight that completely dominated Cotto in his last fight. It's possible to use that as a yard stick for where Canelo is at.
    The Trout fight was a travesty...sure Canelo won...but the scoring was disgraceful and outside of a knockout Trout never had a chance in that environment. More so...Canelo showed his stamina issues in full spades. Canelo and his team went for the big money with the Floyd fight and i can't hate him for that. But he is about to get schooled.
    Two excellent points here. Canelo is a bit green. I think that is one reason why Floyd wants to fight him now. Second point is the Trout fight. Canelo seemed uncomfortable. Scoring was ridiculous. If Canelo fights Floyd the way he fought Trout I think he will get schooled. I think Trout was big competition for Canelo and many of his weaknesses were shown. The positive side is he may not make the same mistakes with Floyd.
    However, Trout completely schooled Cotto, literally, I had him pitching a shut out. For Canelo to come in and beat Trout, shows the level he is at. I agree it was a close fight, but I had Trout as the top man, or close to it, in that division. I'll put it to you like this. I would rank this as a better quality victory than a victory over the current, junior middleweight version of Cotto. What I mean is, had Canelo fought Cotto next, not Mayweather, I would consider it a step back in terms of competition. It was a great victory for the young red headed fighter from Mexico. It's hard to knock it.

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I'll put it to you like this. I would rank this as a better quality victory than a victory over the current, junior middleweight version of Cotto. What I mean is, had Canelo fought Cotto next, not Mayweather, I would consider it a step back in terms of competition. It was a great victory for the young red headed fighter from Mexico. It's hard to knock it.
    Agreed 100%. It's easy to forget that Canelo is still just a kid. He deserves big respect for taking the fight and beating Trout, who is a very solid fighter with a tricky southpaw style. Way more impressed with that then if he had fought Cotto.

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I'll put it to you like this. I would rank this as a better quality victory than a victory over the current, junior middleweight version of Cotto. What I mean is, had Canelo fought Cotto next, not Mayweather, I would consider it a step back in terms of competition. It was a great victory for the young red headed fighter from Mexico. It's hard to knock it.
    Agreed 100%. It's easy to forget that Canelo is still just a kid. He deserves big respect for taking the fight and beating Trout, who is a very solid fighter with a tricky southpaw style. Way more impressed with that then if he had fought Cotto.
    Canelo beating Trout will give him the confidence that he can beat the more talented but smaller Floyd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Canelo beating Trout will give him the confidence that he can beat the more talented but smaller Floyd.
    If he thinks he's got Mayweather's number because he beat Austin Trout, IMO he's already lost.

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I haven't given a Floyd opponent a shot to beat him since Oscar, until Canelo. It's clear if you are a boxer turning down a Floyd Mayweather fight is retarded, so it makes sense why he is facing him now. At the same time, Canelo seems a little green to me. If you're a Canelo fan, in the ideal world, he could face some more competition before getting in the right with the best. Racking up wins against other belt holders before facing the best wouldn't be a bad idea.

    The only reason why I think he might not be too green is because of his win over Trout. Trout is a full-fledged junior middleweight that completely dominated Cotto in his last fight. It's possible to use that as a yard stick for where Canelo is at.
    The Trout fight was a travesty...sure Canelo won...but the scoring was disgraceful and outside of a knockout Trout never had a chance in that environment. More so...Canelo showed his stamina issues in full spades. Canelo and his team went for the big money with the Floyd fight and i can't hate him for that. But he is about to get schooled.
    Regardless of the judge's scoring, I had Canelo winning that fight, and I thought Trout would win going into it. As much as I saw the stamina issues, I also saw Canelo making slight adjustments during the fight, and knocking Trout down for the first time in his career. By the way, Trout himself admitted he lost the fight.

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I haven't given a Floyd opponent a shot to beat him since Oscar, until Canelo.
    How could you not give Ricky Hatton a shot at beating Floyd?

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Canelo doesn't have a whole lot to lose in this, unless he fights like a complete bitch. If he wins, he whipped the undefeated p4p great and becomes a legend before 25. If he loses, him and his promoters can just spin the "he wasn't ready, too young, learned a lot, made him a better fighter" angle and he goes on to a great career.

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Canelo doesn't have a whole lot to lose in this, unless he fights like a complete bitch. If he wins, he whipped the undefeated p4p great and becomes a legend before 25. If he loses, him and his promoters can just spin the "he wasn't ready, too young, learned a lot, made him a better fighter" angle and he goes on to a great career.
    Exactly has nothing to lose put on a good show and lose = he wins , win the fight and win more money and fame ..... graet situation !

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I haven't given a Floyd opponent a shot to beat him since Oscar, until Canelo.
    How could you not give Ricky Hatton a shot at beating Floyd?
    LOL Rick the inbred man Hatton is /was a complete over rated joke

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    Default Re: Is Canelo the toughest opponent for PBF since PBF has weighed over 140 pounds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing View Post

    LOL Rick the inbred man Hatton is /was a complete over rated joke
    Even if that's true, don't be a revisionist historian: a LOT of people picked Hatton to win.

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