Does anyone think George Zimmerman is guilty of murder?

[Beanz]

To most people outside of the states this case is pretty mind blowing. The idea that an unarmed teenager who was not trespassing is somehow responsible for being shot dead by a guy, because, you Lyle, and many others like you, assume that he started a fight with an ARMED man and therefore because the ARMED man was possibly losing and ....wait for it (because this is for many virtually incomprehensible) AFRAID FOR HIS OWN LIFE that somehow means the charges should at most be manslaughter ?


Media bias should be the least of your worries.

An unarmed teenager who may have instigated a fight instead of just walking away. If you're in a fight and you have a weapon and you're losing the fight there is a very real possibility your weapon will be used against you.


Lets take a look at other people and how they would have handled the situation shall we? I don't get into fights, I just don't...I don't know why, maybe I'm just well liked. But even if presented with a physical showdown I give my nemesis every single chance to leave unharmed and wouldn't you know it they always do...ALWAYS.....100% of the time. Some drunk Army guys tried to start shit with me and I let cooler heads prevail and in the end everyone gets along....maybe it's just because I'm white...or maybe I would just rather not pummel the life out of someone accidentally because it doesn't take much to kill someone even with just your hands....you punch someone and their head smacks the concrete too hard and all of a sudden your little street fight in a homicide....I don't like that idea, most people don't like that idea.

Now, what caused this situation to go from nothing happening to physical altercation ending in the death of a teenager?

There's your point of contention right there and I say had Trayvon left well enough alone, OR at the very least not started a fight he'd still be alive today. Ask George why he was following you, explain you were heading home and then it's not you in trouble it's Zimmerman for being overaggressive as a watchman. But you physically confront Zimmerman and start beating him up and tell him he's "Gonna die tonight" (that's what Trayvon said according to Zimmerman in the Police reports) and well something like THIS happens.

Why are you assuming that an unarmed teenager started a fight? Because the guy who shot him dead told you so ? Why should you believe anything Zimmerman says ? Why has the possibility that Zimmerman attacked Martin never occurred to you? What happened to the American ideal of freedom? Why are you again assuming Martin was over aggressive? Why are you assuming that Martin confronted Zimmerman? Why are you assuming that Martin not only started beating Zimmerman up but also that he said "Gonna Die tonight" ? Why do you want to believe everything Zimmerman says so much? Why are you saying that Trayvon should have left well alone when he was being pursued by someone who was expressly told by law enforcement NOT to pursue? Why didn't you think it appropriate that Zimmerman should be the one to walk away? He was the pursuer? Why Lyle? Why?

Zimmerman had the gun. Trayvon did not. Laws of the streets clearly state you don't bring knives to a gun fight and you most certainly don't bring fists to a gun fight. Trayvon did not follow the rules. Zimmerman did. Zimmerman won the fight. Therefore Zimmerman is in the right and what he says is true

Don't be so sure that Peruvian George follows any rules or thinks very highly of you foo

"I dont miss driving around scared to hit mexicans walkin on the side of the street, soft ass wanna be thugs messin with peoples cars when they aint around (what are you provin, that you can dent a car when no ones watchin) dont make you a man in my book. Workin 96 hours to get a decent pay check, gettin knifes pulled on you by every mexican you run into!"

George Zimmerman

[Violent Demise]

To most people outside of the states this case is pretty mind blowing. The idea that an unarmed teenager who was not trespassing is somehow responsible for being shot dead by a guy, because, you Lyle, and many others like you, assume that he started a fight with an ARMED man and therefore because the ARMED man was possibly losing and ....wait for it (because this is for many virtually incomprehensible) AFRAID FOR HIS OWN LIFE that somehow means the charges should at most be manslaughter ?


Media bias should be the least of your worries.

An unarmed teenager who may have instigated a fight instead of just walking away. If you're in a fight and you have a weapon and you're losing the fight there is a very real possibility your weapon will be used against you.


Lets take a look at other people and how they would have handled the situation shall we? I don't get into fights, I just don't...I don't know why, maybe I'm just well liked. But even if presented with a physical showdown I give my nemesis every single chance to leave unharmed and wouldn't you know it they always do...ALWAYS.....100% of the time. Some drunk Army guys tried to start shit with me and I let cooler heads prevail and in the end everyone gets along....maybe it's just because I'm white...or maybe I would just rather not pummel the life out of someone accidentally because it doesn't take much to kill someone even with just your hands....you punch someone and their head smacks the concrete too hard and all of a sudden your little street fight in a homicide....I don't like that idea, most people don't like that idea.

Now, what caused this situation to go from nothing happening to physical altercation ending in the death of a teenager?

There's your point of contention right there and I say had Trayvon left well enough alone, OR at the very least not started a fight he'd still be alive today. Ask George why he was following you, explain you were heading home and then it's not you in trouble it's Zimmerman for being overaggressive as a watchman. But you physically confront Zimmerman and start beating him up and tell him he's "Gonna die tonight" (that's what Trayvon said according to Zimmerman in the Police reports) and well something like THIS happens.

Why are you assuming that an unarmed teenager started a fight? Because the guy who shot him dead told you so ? Why should you believe anything Zimmerman says ? Why has the possibility that Zimmerman attacked Martin never occurred to you? What happened to the American ideal of freedom? Why are you again assuming Martin was over aggressive? Why are you assuming that Martin confronted Zimmerman? Why are you assuming that Martin not only started beating Zimmerman up but also that he said "Gonna Die tonight" ? Why do you want to believe everything Zimmerman says so much? Why are you saying that Trayvon should have left well alone when he was being pursued by someone who was expressly told by law enforcement NOT to pursue? Why didn't you think it appropriate that Zimmerman should be the one to walk away? He was the pursuer? Why Lyle? Why?

Zimmerman had the gun. Trayvon did not. Laws of the streets clearly state you don't bring knives to a gun fight and you most certainly don't bring fists to a gun fight. Trayvon did not follow the rules. Zimmerman did. Zimmerman won the fight. Therefore Zimmerman is in the right and what he says is true

Don't be so sure that Peruvian George follows any rules or thinks very highly of you foo

"I dont miss driving around scared to hit mexicans walkin on the side of the street, soft ass wanna be thugs messin with peoples cars when they aint around (what are you provin, that you can dent a car when no ones watchin) dont make you a man in my book. Workin 96 hours to get a decent pay check, gettin knifes pulled on you by every mexican you run into!"

George Zimmerman

He doesn't have to. Rules are rules. He followed them The boy didn't. That's why he's still living and the boy is pushing up daisies.