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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Has to be some sort of hype building ploy? Fury is as thick as they come but even he can't honestly think that he is worth that much?!

    Love or hate Haye - the guy is a two weight title holder and a unified and some would say undisputed champion at cruiserweight.

    Tyson Fury is a .... (somebody fill the blanks in for me please, other than being a tall, mouthy pikey I am failing to see what he has done?)
    Since Haye embarrased himself against Klitschko, Fury has done alot more than Haye who has fought one solitary fight against someone Tyson fought when they were undefeated.

    Tyson has fought 6 times since Haye fell over against Wladamir and he has beaten 2 top ten heavies. Fury has done a hell of alot more than Haye. Haye is now i sgnificant on the world scene. Some naive people are still calling hs name as the man to beat the Klitschkos. Do you all forget how crap he was when given his chance? His boat has sailed amd hes not a big draw. His fight against Char was called off because of poor ticket sales. Fury is drawing a crowd against anyone and all over the media when he fights.

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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Has to be some sort of hype building ploy? Fury is as thick as they come but even he can't honestly think that he is worth that much?!

    Love or hate Haye - the guy is a two weight title holder and a unified and some would say undisputed champion at cruiserweight.

    Tyson Fury is a .... (somebody fill the blanks in for me please, other than being a tall, mouthy pikey I am failing to see what he has done?)
    Since Haye embarrased himself against Klitschko, Fury has done alot more than Haye who has fought one solitary fight against someone Tyson fought when they were undefeated.

    Tyson has fought 6 times since Haye fell over against Wladamir and he has beaten 2 top ten heavies. Fury has done a hell of alot more than Haye. Haye is now i sgnificant on the world scene. Some naive people are still calling hs name as the man to beat the Klitschkos. Do you all forget how crap he was when given his chance? His boat has sailed amd hes not a big draw. His fight against Char was called off because of poor ticket sales. Fury is drawing a crowd against anyone and all over the media when he fights.
    He's insignificant? How do figure?

    He sparks Fury any day of the week.

    Surely that makes Fury insignificant?
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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Has to be some sort of hype building ploy? Fury is as thick as they come but even he can't honestly think that he is worth that much?!

    Love or hate Haye - the guy is a two weight title holder and a unified and some would say undisputed champion at cruiserweight.

    Tyson Fury is a .... (somebody fill the blanks in for me please, other than being a tall, mouthy pikey I am failing to see what he has done?)
    Since Haye embarrased himself against Klitschko, Fury has done alot more than Haye who has fought one solitary fight against someone Tyson fought when they were undefeated.

    Tyson has fought 6 times since Haye fell over against Wladamir and he has beaten 2 top ten heavies. Fury has done a hell of alot more than Haye. Haye is now i sgnificant on the world scene. Some naive people are still calling hs name as the man to beat the Klitschkos. Do you all forget how crap he was when given his chance? His boat has sailed amd hes not a big draw. His fight against Char was called off because of poor ticket sales. Fury is drawing a crowd against anyone and all over the media when he fights.
    Haye's last fight drew 30,000. How many of Fury's fights do you have to add together to reach that?
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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Certainly more than Fury's last 6 fights. He is still fighting in relatively small arenas (MSG was in one of the small rooms) he's never been close to headlining an M.E.N or O2
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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Has to be some sort of hype building ploy? Fury is as thick as they come but even he can't honestly think that he is worth that much?!

    Love or hate Haye - the guy is a two weight title holder and a unified and some would say undisputed champion at cruiserweight.

    Tyson Fury is a .... (somebody fill the blanks in for me please, other than being a tall, mouthy pikey I am failing to see what he has done?)
    Since Haye embarrased himself against Klitschko, Fury has done alot more than Haye who has fought one solitary fight against someone Tyson fought when they were undefeated.

    Tyson has fought 6 times since Haye fell over against Wladamir and he has beaten 2 top ten heavies. Fury has done a hell of alot more than Haye. Haye is now i sgnificant on the world scene. Some naive people are still calling hs name as the man to beat the Klitschkos. Do you all forget how crap he was when given his chance? His boat has sailed amd hes not a big draw. His fight against Char was called off because of poor ticket sales. Fury is drawing a crowd against anyone and all over the media when he fights.
    Haye's last fight drew 30,000. How many of Fury's fights do you have to add together to reach that?
    Just to add, I thought 50/50 was very generous to Fury.

    Haye has won 4 world title straps.
    Fury has won a British and Commonwealth title.

    Haye's last fight had attendance of 30,000.
    Fury's last headlined fight drew about 5,000 (His last fight over here. The one in the backroom of MSG had fuck all people there).

    Everybody in Britain knows who David Haye is.
    Some people in Britain have heard the name Tyson Fury because it stands out.

    David Haye has headlined successful PPVs.
    Tyson Fury fights on Channel 5.
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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Haye should get 60 percent as he is an established fighter who already made champion and is internationally known.

    People only heard of Fury cause his first name is Tyson. He's still small-town really. Hasnt proved himself in any way I can see yet.

    60/40 Haye. Haye doesnt need the fight, Fury does. Badly.

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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Haye should get 60 percent as he is an established fighter who already made champion and is internationally known.

    People only heard of Fury cause his first name is Tyson. He's still small-town really. Hasnt proved himself in any way I can see yet.

    60/40 Haye. Haye doesnt need the fight, Fury does. Badly.
    It should be 99% Haye and 1% Fury.

    And Furys mouth should be watering over the exposure he'll get.

    That should be his payment.

    He should just be happy someone who's done as much as Haye has is even talking about fighting the likes of him.
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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Haye should get 60 percent as he is an established fighter who already made champion and is internationally known.

    People only heard of Fury cause his first name is Tyson. He's still small-town really. Hasnt proved himself in any way I can see yet.

    60/40 Haye. Haye doesnt need the fight, Fury does. Badly.
    It should be 99% Haye and 1% Fury.

    And Furys mouth should be watering over the exposure he'll get.

    That should be his payment.

    He should just be happy someone who's done as much as Haye has is even talking about fighting the likes of him.
    What are Hayes accomplishments at heavy?

    Barret, Ruiz, Valuev, Harrison, Klitschko and Chisora.

    One of them Fury had already beaten, other than Klitschko Fury beats the rest.

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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post

    What are Hayes accomplishments at heavy?

    Barret, Ruiz, Valuev, Harrison, Klitschko and Chisora.

    One of them Fury had already beaten, other than Klitschko Fury beats the rest.
    So you discount his Cruiserweight accomplishments? If Floyd Mayweather Jr. stepped up to Middleweight, would you expect him to take a shorter end of the purse?

    Haye has also sold out large arenas, has drawn large crowds, has fought on PPV, has won multiple World titles in 2 weightclasses and has had huge mainstream media exposure. Fury has done none of these things, despite his best efforts. How can you possibly justify Fury getting anything over 30%? Haye is gifting him 50%, if he doesn't take it, it's because he is well aware he'll get flattened.

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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Haye should get 60 percent as he is an established fighter who already made champion and is internationally known.

    People only heard of Fury cause his first name is Tyson. He's still small-town really. Hasnt proved himself in any way I can see yet.

    60/40 Haye. Haye doesnt need the fight, Fury does. Badly.
    It should be 99% Haye and 1% Fury.

    And Furys mouth should be watering over the exposure he'll get.

    That should be his payment.

    He should just be happy someone who's done as much as Haye has is even talking about fighting the likes of him.
    What are Hayes accomplishments at heavy?

    Barret, Ruiz, Valuev, Harrison, Klitschko and Chisora.

    One of them Fury had already beaten, other than Klitschko Fury beats the rest.
    Won a world title?

    Dominated the cruiserweight division, a division that has fighters that can drop Fury.

    I say it a lot but you know nothing about boxing, almost everything you say just confirms this.

    Haye is a bigger draw than fury
    Haye is a better fighter than fury
    Haye achieved more than fury
    Haye will sell more tickets than fury
    Haye sells out 5 to 6 times bigger arenas than fury
    Haye is a 2 weight world champion, fury is not
    Haye chases the big fights, fury runs from them

    It goes on.
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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Haye should get 60 percent as he is an established fighter who already made champion and is internationally known.

    People only heard of Fury cause his first name is Tyson. He's still small-town really. Hasnt proved himself in any way I can see yet.

    60/40 Haye. Haye doesnt need the fight, Fury does. Badly.
    It should be 99% Haye and 1% Fury.

    And Furys mouth should be watering over the exposure he'll get.

    That should be his payment.

    He should just be happy someone who's done as much as Haye has is even talking about fighting the likes of him.
    What are Hayes accomplishments at heavy?

    Barret, Ruiz, Valuev, Harrison, Klitschko and Chisora.

    One of them Fury had already beaten, other than Klitschko Fury beats the rest.
    Now please list the Fury opponents that Haye wouldn't beat?
    None. Of course.
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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Haye should get 60 percent as he is an established fighter who already made champion and is internationally known.

    People only heard of Fury cause his first name is Tyson. He's still small-town really. Hasnt proved himself in any way I can see yet.

    60/40 Haye. Haye doesnt need the fight, Fury does. Badly.
    It should be 99% Haye and 1% Fury.

    And Furys mouth should be watering over the exposure he'll get.

    That should be his payment.

    He should just be happy someone who's done as much as Haye has is even talking about fighting the likes of him.
    What are Hayes accomplishments at heavy?

    Barret, Ruiz, Valuev, Harrison, Klitschko and Chisora.

    One of them Fury had already beaten, other than Klitschko Fury beats the rest.
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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Since Haye embarrased himself against Klitschko, Fury has done alot more than Haye who has fought one solitary fight against someone Tyson fought when they were undefeated.

    Tyson has fought 6 times since Haye fell over against Wladamir and he has beaten 2 top ten heavies. Fury has done a hell of alot more than Haye. Haye is now i sgnificant on the world scene. Some naive people are still calling hs name as the man to beat the Klitschkos. Do you all forget how crap he was when given his chance? His boat has sailed amd hes not a big draw. His fight against Char was called off because of poor ticket sales. Fury is drawing a crowd against anyone and all over the media when he fights.
    Cunningham & Johnson are not top 10 Heavies. If you honestly believe this then Saddo should ban you for a serious lack of boxing knowledge.

    Fury hasn't done anything to warrant an 80/20 split. Haye is one of the biggest draws in the Heavyweight division and is known all over the world. Tyson is a world class ducker. Price, Pulev and now Haye. How is anyone taking him seriously.

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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Has to be some sort of hype building ploy? Fury is as thick as they come but even he can't honestly think that he is worth that much?!

    Love or hate Haye - the guy is a two weight title holder and a unified and some would say undisputed champion at cruiserweight.

    Tyson Fury is a .... (somebody fill the blanks in for me please, other than being a tall, mouthy pikey I am failing to see what he has done?)
    Since Haye embarrased himself against Klitschko, Fury has done alot more than Haye who has fought one solitary fight against someone Tyson fought when they were undefeated.

    Tyson has fought 6 times since Haye fell over against Wladamir and he has beaten 2 top ten heavies. Fury has done a hell of alot more than Haye. Haye is now i sgnificant on the world scene. Some naive people are still calling hs name as the man to beat the Klitschkos. Do you all forget how crap he was when given his chance? His boat has sailed amd hes not a big draw. His fight against Char was called off because of poor ticket sales. Fury is drawing a crowd against anyone and all over the media when he fights.
    Dunno, last I saw of Fury all I remember is fury getting dropped hard by a cruiserweight just looking for a pay day.

    I didn't know we had to discount all of an athlete's prior achievements and performances after a bad one, cheers for clearing that up.

    You seem to let a fighter's personality skewer your view of things, you revently did it with Carl Froch because you think he's a dick and you're doing it with David Haye, because you think he's a dick too.

    Whether he's a dick or not doesn't change the fact that he is on another level to Fury.

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    Default Re: Fury is a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Has to be some sort of hype building ploy? Fury is as thick as they come but even he can't honestly think that he is worth that much?!

    Love or hate Haye - the guy is a two weight title holder and a unified and some would say undisputed champion at cruiserweight.

    Tyson Fury is a .... (somebody fill the blanks in for me please, other than being a tall, mouthy pikey I am failing to see what he has done?)
    Since Haye embarrased himself against Klitschko, Fury has done alot more than Haye who has fought one solitary fight against someone Tyson fought when they were undefeated.

    Tyson has fought 6 times since Haye fell over against Wladamir and he has beaten 2 top ten heavies. Fury has done a hell of alot more than Haye. Haye is now i sgnificant on the world scene. Some naive people are still calling hs name as the man to beat the Klitschkos. Do you all forget how crap he was when given his chance? His boat has sailed amd hes not a big draw. His fight against Char was called off because of poor ticket sales. Fury is drawing a crowd against anyone and all over the media when he fights.
    Dunno, last I saw of Fury all I remember is fury getting dropped hard by a cruiserweight just looking for a pay day.

    I didn't know we had to discount all of an athlete's prior achievements and performances after a bad one, cheers for clearing that up.

    You seem to let a fighter's personality skewer your view of things, you revently did it with Carl Froch because you think he's a dick and you're doing it with David Haye, because you think he's a dick too.

    Whether he's a dick or not doesn't change the fact that he is on another level to Fury.
    I think Froch is a dick but its undeniable hes fought better names than Haye has. Haye gets my goat because he talks a good game but hasnt really done a great deal. Hes had 27 or 28 fights but been a pro for 11 years. The fights he had before Wlad, even including the cruiser fights, people in here have already pointed out the best, most dangerous fighter he has beaten is Valuev... Who most felt lost to 47 year old Holyfield

    There have been plenty of opportunities for Haye to fight genuine contenders to deserve a shot at the title, like Adamek, Arreola, Johnson, Thomson, Solis etc. He has and is constantly is trying the easiest route to a big title shot and its a business and I cant blame him for that but its the attitude that he has done something special along the way that irritates me. Yeah Fury can be dopey and a helmet but he is fighting consistantly and trying to fight ranked fighters. Even Cunningham admitted in the lead up that he was the only fighter who wanted Fury because everyone else doesnt want to face his size and his awkwardness.

    He isnt going down the Harrison route like Haye and Price. He fought Chisora when Chisora mattered, even Wlad wanted Chisora as an opponent back then but he pulled out and Fury offered him a fight.

    Fury makes me laugh with his ridiculousness, Haye sounds similar but there is a constant undertone of arrogance with Haye, whereas Fury will go on the internet for the whole world to see and take the piss out of himself and his traveler roots wanting to buy caravans and dogs and how its a shame, hes a fat, out of shape, chinny, light punching fighter etc.

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