The Blueprint to beat Broner.

[Spicoli]

Here's the huge flaw in the logic of all this Broner bashing: you guys are all asuming that Broner would fight everyone the same way he fought Gavin Rees and Malignaggi.

Broner stood still in front of those guys, in all likelyhood, because they were not known as big punchers (goes triple for Paulie). You guys are going out on a limb assuming that Broner would employ the same tactics against a guy like Matthyse, Garcia, or anyone else with a respectable punch.

Do you guys honestly believe you're uncovering some kind of secret, or that you have more insight into boxing tactics than the professionals?

Thats really putting lipstick on a pig and assuming alot. Have you seen fights others have missed? Fans believe what they see and judge a guy accordingly. A professional ring is a helluva place to experiment, they call that a gym and a sparring session. If he thinks he really is THAT good that he only has to bring %75 to the table, take a guy for granted and can suddenly flip a switch into some superior model when it gets deep against "real" threats and risk getting wrecked, he's a bigger fool than I thought. That'll get you torched. He doesn't get that convenience and pass at this stage.

[Beanflicker]

Thats really putting lipstick on a pig and assuming alot. Have you seen fights others have missed?

I don't remember him doing it with anyone else. Did he do it with Ponce De Leon? I can't remember him doing it to that degree with anyone besides Paulie and Rees.

Fans can view what they want and judge accordingly, sure. If you want to look at a guy with 27 fights, and assume he'll always fight the way he did in 2 of those 27 fights, be my guest. There's no laws against being stupid.

[Vendettos]

No offense guys but I don't believe the "he didn't try because he was always going to win" stuff you're spewing.

He barely won the Paulie fight, one judge gave it to Paulie and you can make a case for that, I had Broner up by 1 round and tbh he should have been deducted points.


This whole "he'll try when he has to" is bullshit.

[Spicoli]

Thats really putting lipstick on a pig and assuming alot. Have you seen fights others have missed?

I don't remember him doing it with anyone else. Did he do it with Ponce De Leon? I can't remember him doing it to that degree with anyone besides Paulie and Rees.

Fans can view what they want and judge accordingly, sure. If you want to look at a guy with 27 fights, and assume he'll always fight the way he did in 2 of those 27 fights, be my guest. There's no laws against being stupid.

Wow. I'll just buckle up my helmet than and be over in the corner licking my pennies. So by that thinking we're to assume he can do things at a highly effective level more so than what we've actually seen happen up to this point Seeing is believing.

I'm not sure what his style was with a smaller Ponce De Leon...but he better come up with a plan C if that's his "serious" face. Wasn't exactly all that convincing in that one either.

[p4pking]

Thats really putting lipstick on a pig and assuming alot. Have you seen fights others have missed?

I don't remember him doing it with anyone else. Did he do it with Ponce De Leon? I can't remember him doing it to that degree with anyone besides Paulie and Rees.

Fans can view what they want and judge accordingly, sure. If you want to look at a guy with 27 fights, and assume he'll always fight the way he did in 2 of those 27 fights, be my guest. There's no laws against being stupid.

No laws against being a prick either, suit yourself. Maybe you should watch the Ponce fight before you go calling good posters stupid for thinking less of him than you do. Perhaps Broner is indeed an almighty shapeshifter who will reinvent himself for every fight, that's probably alot more likely than him having any holes in his game huh. It's not as if he has a fairly distinct style or anything I'm sure if he ever fights anyone who truly bothers him, he'll start moving laterally like no other, maybe then he'll do a double backflip superman punch and decapitate him before dissapearing in a cloud of black smoke!

I think as much as people do tend to criticize his boxing unfairly based on him being a clown, you are perhaps overcompensating the other way in order to validate your own hangups here.

[jon09]

If Paulie had power then he would have knocked out that arrogant douche early in my opinion. I think the Ghost would beat him the way he beat Berto. Broner's arrogance will be his undoing.

[IamInuit]

I'm actually getting Bronered out. He's going to be another one of these guys that will be judged on a completely different scale then anybody else because he's a twat. This is going to be my last comment on Broner world because that planet is flat. So after this windy response I plan to be on a Bronercott until an actual fight is announced.

For many of those claiming to have the blue print to beating this guy you sure do manage to ignore a fair amount. It should not have surprised anyone that Paulie looked good early. Many of us said he would and that his speed and movement would cause Broner problems. Dam we all talked about his wide flat footed stance prior to Demarco. You can’t discount the fact that Rees and Paulie could not hurt him and that he knew it going in. Furthermore, you can’t discount both of their desires to put on a show and give the best they can in a fight that they knew they were over-matched in. It’s the reason we get some upsets.

Broner is a meticulous slow starter as he gathers distance and then timing it. He started pretty fast cause he had to and there was some real bad blood. He seemed after the ko which is not like him. There was some grudge in this and if you ask a prize fighter there is a different approach however subtle to a fight when you genuinely dislike a guy. I mean shit it’s like that on the street.

Let’s not forget that he is just 23 years old, jumped two weight classes and went to the guy’s back yard. So being a little sluggish should not have surprised anyone either given Paulies overall speed and time at the weight.

Remember Floyd/Castillo 1? There was similar talk and that was Floyd jumping one weight class and fighting the champion at his house not Castillo's. A less then stellar performance by the Oscar replacement. Then the second fight happened. Point is Broner has barely gotten his feet wet. He's just so annoying that it feels like he's been around for ten years.

@Rantcatrat talked about the possibility of Broner getting to much credit after he smashed Paulie and well whats happened here is the polar opposite. He now gets no credit because he struggled a bit and every reason for that struggling is simply dismissed out of hand by what appears to be his legion of haters across the boxing inter-web. I simply do not take to much from this fight pro or con. He's got an odd style and the tools with acknowledged weaknesses that given the wrong opponent could cause him grief and Paulie showed in spurts but that's only part of the puzzle.

For the record on these seven hypothetical fights. That’s if he stays at 147. I presume Rios will stay there after Manny.

Khan-Stands to straight up and goes straight back and generally fights to stupid in order to have a shot never mind what appears to be a screen door for a chin.
JMM- Broner most likely has a good shot at this point. The timing of Marquez is probably about to begin a slide and that could prove disastrous in this fight and generally for Marquez as a counter puncher. Quite possibly a cure for insomnia.
Bradley- Tims a solid fighter but his rinse and repeat style and come forward plod would be like a turkey shoot for Broner. The amount of sweat being knocked off Timmy's face from contact would have the ringside fans thinking they were at sea world.
Maidana- Ditto
Rios- Ditto
Guerrero- I think Guerreros style and rough housing tactics give Broner problems. He’s not just some walk in and land the bomb type guy. He can mix it up.I'd bet on Broner again on an ugly points win fight.
Alexander-Tough fight. I think Alexander has all the tools to match Broner and might get him going side to side and out from behind that shoulder.

Ps @Vendettos. I'm not sure how you call that fight close or how two of the judges did unless they factored in all the fouls being called in from the announcers some real and some made up. You don't get points for shadow boxing either and hitting air or hitting the arms or shoulders no matter how effective it was for the likes of Marciano.

No more Bronerisms from me until a fight is official.

[Rantcatrat]

I'm actually getting Bronered out. He's going to be another one of these guys that will be judged on a completely different scale then anybody else because he's a twat. This is going to be my last comment on Broner world because that planet is flat. So after this windy response I plan to be on a Bronercott until an actual fight is announced.

For many of those claiming to have the blue print to beating this guy you sure do manage to ignore a fair amount. It should not have surprised anyone that Paulie looked good early. Many of us said he would and that his speed and movement would cause Broner problems. Dam we all talked about his wide flat footed stance prior to Demarco. You can’t discount the fact that Rees and Paulie could not hurt him and that he knew it going in. Furthermore, you can’t discount both of their desires to put on a show and give the best they can in a fight that they knew they were over-matched in. It’s the reason we get some upsets.

Broner is a meticulous slow starter as he gathers distance and then timing it. He started pretty fast cause he had to and there was some real bad blood. He seemed after the ko which is not like him. There was some grudge in this and if you ask a prize fighter there is a different approach however subtle to a fight when you genuinely dislike a guy. I mean shit it’s like that on the street.

Let’s not forget that he is just 23 years old, jumped two weight classes and went to the guy’s back yard. So being a little sluggish should not have surprised anyone either given Paulies overall speed and time at the weight.

Remember Floyd/Castillo 1? There was similar talk and that was Floyd jumping one weight class and fighting the champion at his house not Castillo's. A less then stellar performance by the Oscar replacement. Then the second fight happened. Point is Broner has barely gotten his feet wet. He's just so annoying that it feels like he's been around for ten years.

@Rantcatrat talked about the possibility of Broner getting to much credit after he smashed Paulie and well whats happened here is the polar opposite. He now gets no credit because he struggled a bit and every reason for that struggling is simply dismissed out of hand by what appears to be his legion of haters across the boxing inter-web. I simply do not take to much from this fight pro or con. He's got an odd style and the tools with acknowledged weaknesses that given the wrong opponent could cause him grief and Paulie showed in spurts but that's only part of the puzzle.

For the record on these seven hypothetical fights. That’s if he stays at 147. I presume Rios will stay there after Manny.

Khan-Stands to straight up and goes straight back and generally fights to stupid in order to have a shot never mind what appears to be a screen door for a chin.
JMM- Broner most likely has a good shot at this point. The timing of Marquez is probably about to begin a slide and that could prove disastrous in this fight and generally for Marquez as a counter puncher. Quite possibly a cure for insomnia.
Bradley- Tims a solid fighter but his rinse and repeat style and come forward plod would be like a turkey shoot for Broner. The amount of sweat being knocked off Timmy's face from contact would have the ringside fans thinking they were at sea world.
Maidana- Ditto
Rios- Ditto
Guerrero- I think Guerreros style and rough housing tactics give Broner problems. He’s not just some walk in and land the bomb type guy. He can mix it up.I'd bet on Broner again on an ugly points win fight.
Alexander-Tough fight. I think Alexander has all the tools to match Broner and might get him going side to side and out from behind that shoulder.

Ps @Vendettos . I'm not sure how you call that fight close or how two of the judges did unless they factored in all the fouls being called in from the announcers some real and some made up. You don't get points for shadow boxing either and hitting air or hitting the arms or shoulders no matter how effective it was for the likes of Marciano.

No more Bronerisms from me until a fight is official.

Fair post, my friend.

Unfortunately, I think Broner brought the hate on himself for claiming to be the next Floyd Mayweather in boxing, and wanting to face Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao. That kind of heady talk will get you heat if you don't walk through Paulie Malignaggi. Everyone expected this to be a break through performance, but it ended up being a tough fight for him, which surprised a lot of people. It wouldn't be a big deal for someone like say Cano, or even, Thurman, but for someone like Broner, who was touted as the next big deal, it caused a meltdown, which in my opinion, was deserved.

[Vendettos]

Agreed.

I notice that they keep him clear of punchers recently.

He won't survive against a puncher, Paulie hit him so many times, more than any boxer should be hit after claiming to be the next Floyd.

He will lose, soon!

[Hulk]

Agreed.

I notice that they keep him clear of punchers recently.

He won't survive against a puncher, Paulie hit him so many times, more than any boxer should be hit after claiming to be the next Floyd.

He will lose, soon!

I want Randall Bailey to Mike Jones his ass.

Just land that right hand ONCE.

That's all it should take.

All it takes for most.